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Sniffing out Kent Moors’ “OBL Superfuel” — What’s the White Gold “1,693X more powerful than gasoline?”

What's Energy Advantage selling in their "Roadmap for the OBL Revolution?"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, April 12, 2017

Another day, another crazy hyped-up pitch from Dr. Kent Moors — this time, he’s advertising his “entry level” Energy Advantage newsletter with a promise that he has found a way to profit from a “breakthrough superfuel.”

So what’s the story? Well, let’s start you out with a look at the headline:

“This Breakthrough ‘Superfuel’ is 1,693X More Powerful Than Gasoline

“Unearthed in the Andes Mountains, these mysterious crystals contain what MIT researchers call energy’s ‘Holy Grail.’

“And they could ignite a $7.2 trillion economic revolution!”

And he refers throughout to this “OBL” fuel, which is a term he made up to make it sound like it’s a mysterious thing that you couldn’t possibly understand without his assistance… that’s somehow an acronym for “Oro Blanco”, a reference to the white crystal structure of this “fuel”.

Which means, if you’ve been paying attention to natural resources investing at all over the past few years, that you probably already know the basics of what he’s talking about — this is another pitch for a lithium stock, though he persists in using that “OBL” term throughout.

And if you haven’t been around these parts for a while, well, this is what we do: We check out the wild promise in the ads from these newsletter pitchmen, then we sift through the clues and figure out what stock they’re referring to so you can do a little thinking for yourself, without the pressure of the sales pitch.

Lithium Carbonate is indeed a hot commodity these days, mostly because, in addition to being traditionally used for lots of ceramic and glass applications, it is a major component in lithium-ion batteries… and, as we are all quite aware, the lithium battery market is booming. No longer are we just using lithium-ion batteries for our laptops and iPhones, now they’re also powering full size, high powered electric cars like the Tesla Model S.

That increased demand from electric cars is part of the reason for the dramatic investment over the past few years in expanding battery production capacity around the world, most visibly with Tesla’s heavily promoted Gigafactory in Nevada, but also in China and South Korea, where much of the pre-Tesla production capacity existed, and, probably a bit later, in Europe, where there are some gigafactory-size ambitions in Sweden and Eastern Europe.

So it’s not at all a surprise that battery production is going to ramp up considerably, or that this kind of demand increase will require a supply increase for the components that go into lithium-ion batteries. For the most part, that’s graphite, cobalt, and lithium — and while none are particularly rare, cobalt and lithium are relatively concentrated in a few parts of the world and are somewhat difficult and time consuming to produce, so that’s where much of the investment excitement comes in (though graphite projects get hyped up from time to time as well, including the fairly recent “Pure Carbon” teaser about Leading Edge Materials from Gerardo Del Real).

Things have actually slowed down in the lithium-hype space this year, partly because cobalt has been a more exciting story in recent months, and partly because there have been so very many investment themes for investors to get crazy about since the election that the lithium story has kind of gotten buried in the noise. But the basic facts of the increasing lithium demand are still roughly the same… so which “OBL” stock is Kent Moors turning our attention to today?

“… the price of OBL has doubled TWICE in the past 14 months.

“But almost nobody knows about it… yet.

“And it just so happens that one little miner, led by the most successful management team I’ve ever seen, could dominate this soaring market…

“Because they found a treasure trove of this rare substance – not high up in the Andes Mountains… but right here in America.

“This $92 million miner recently acquired what could soon be considered the most valuable piece of land in the world.”

That land is “in a windswept plane at the foot of the Sierra Nevada mountains,” apparently, and Moors says the prospects there are huge…

“This company’s own ‘blind’ estimates suggest the property’s reserves could approach 816,000 metric tons.

“The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) has recently conducted no fewer than four studies in the region confirming this superfuel is there.

“And at $25,000 per metric ton…

“We could be looking at a $20.4 billion OBL treasure trove!

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“It’s literally beginning to burst out of the ground.

“And it’s all controlled by this tiny $92 million company.

“Right now, this soon-to-be energy titan is building a facility to mine their OBL find….

“But if you wait until they put even one speck of OBL onto a train or 18-wheeler, you risk missing your chance at the kind of payday investors normally only dream about.

“Now, nothing in the market is guaranteed, and this is a small stock.

“In fact, shares are only trading for about $1.50 – literally pocket change!”

And, as is always required for a good teaser pitch, there’s some urgency:

“I’m expecting a major announcement that will send this stock to the moon, and enrich savvy investors.

“As we speak, this firm is rushing to complete an important study that will confirm exactly how much OBL can be mined in the seven deposits under its newly acquired property.

“I believe the results will be announced within the next three months.

“Possibly within the next few weeks.”

This is all starting to sound quite familiar. Ring a bell, anyone?

How about now:

“And for years now, members of the “dream team” behind this small firm have been repeatedly making early investors a fortune in similar ventures.

“They are quite possibly the most successful resource team in modern history.”

“The executive chairman is an entrepreneur, geochemist, and geologist with over 35 years in the mining industry….

“And with this OBL venture, he’s teamed up with one of the world’s most successful commodities billionaires.

“Another energy mogul with an incredible track record.”

So yes… this is a repeat of the teaser recommendation that Dr. Kent Moors was circulating last year. Remember that one? Back in November, Moors pitched this same lithium stock with an attention getting “Say No To Lithium Stocks” headline… this is, again, hinting at Lithium X (LIX.V, LIXXF).

And he buried the lead a bit here in this ad — Lithium X does indeed have some exploration properties surrounding Albemarle’s producing lithium brine facility in Nevada — it’s not technically in “Death Valley”, as far as I know, but it’s not all that different a place, and Death Valley National Park in California is only about 150 miles away.

But Lithium X’s much more valuable property, I would argue, is their project in the Andes in South America, the neighborhood where you’ll find most of the world’s current lithium production (and nearly all of its lithium brine production). Here’s how Moors touts that asset, further down in the ad:

“Up to this point, I’ve only told you about this miner’s discovery in the United States.

“But they have just secured another massive property that is bursting with OBL.

“And it’s located far away, where the “White Gold” story first began…the Andes Mountains.

“Nestled between two areas menacingly known as Dead Man’s Lake and Little Devil’s Flats lies 20,000 acres of OBL-rich land.

“So this miner’s new discovery is bigger than the one they are also developing near Death Valley.

“It also contains more OBL.

“According to a recent survey, this chunk of land holds over 2.8 million metric tons of this superfuel.”

The challenge, as with all of the emerging lithium producers, is that it’s hard to predict just what will happen to lithium pricing… and actually building brine ponds and developing production and hiring workers and shipping stuff is a lot more problem-prone than just dreaming of the potential of lithium-rich brines underground and watching your stock spike on the lithium “story.”

So perhaps it’s good that most of the lithium exploration names have come back to earth a bit and gotten a bit more rational, and the actual producers like SQM (SQM) and Albemarle (ALB) have taken their turn to rise in price on the back of their existing and expanding production and higher lithium prices (and, of course, more visibility for lithium stocks).

What, then, is the story now? Well, part of the reason that Lithium X is down a bit is that it has become a bit more obvious that they’re a long way from production — they still don’t have a feasibility study, and they formally reiterated back in February that their 2011 preliminary economic assessment should not be relied on, at the same time that they were raising another $15 million to continue their exploration and initial “test production” work (they are starting not with a feasibility study, it appears, but with a test facility that will produce at a small scale — this is mostly being funded by their JV partner in Argentina, but Lithium X will participate as well).

There will probably be news coming fairly soon, since Lithium X is focusing on upgrading its resources this year with an exploration program, and the test facility will presumably demonstrate that the project can be roughly as profitable as other similarly-situated projects in the Andes, though these things always take longer and cost more than expected.

So my opinion about Lithium X still stands — if we assume, in the absence of more information, that the older resource information about their Sal De Los Angeles project is at all accurate, then the valuation is relatively in line with some other past emerging producers like Orocobre, so it’s probably not as crazy as one might expect for a heavily promoted junior lithium explorer following a huge move in the price of lithium carbonate. This is what I wrote back in November when I was investigating Moors’ tease:

“Lithium X is not as crazily valued as I might have guessed, given the actual potential of their Argentinean project, but it’s years away from real production and I’m not very impressed by anyone’s Nevada lithium projects, including those of Lithium X. This would be one of the first lithium juniors I’d consider, but there is plenty of lithium that can be produced if prices stay up in this area so there’s no real guarantee that lithium prices will be permanently much higher in five or ten years… and risks are quite a bit lower (and valuations higher) with established producers like Albemarle or even emerging producers like Orocobre. I don’t own any lithium names right now.”

And, well, that’s still how I feel. Lithium X is more appealing than most of the really tiny juniors I’ve seen, partly because they have some experienced management, and the backing of Frank Giustra (which always draws investor attention), and have at least a test project underway on their most promising property.

But you can also keep it simple… if you want exposure to lithium doubling in price again a few more times, as is possible but certainly not guaranteed, I’d still feel much better about buying the high-quality companies who are producing it profitably now and are able to expand production, which is generally much easier and faster than building a brand new production facility.

And this is perhaps a cynical view, but I still don’t see much reason to waste time with juniors who are trying to develop US production in Nevada — if Albemarle wanted to expand their production dramatically in Nevada, where they’ve had a facility for a very long time, they could have invested in expansion there many times over the years, and could also have easily bought out some of these little players that surround their Silver Peak operation… and they haven’t done either, to my knowledge.

Why? My guess would be that’s because they know that expanding production in South America (where most of their lithium comes from) is far more profitable. The primary reason to think about Nevada lithium production is if you believe Elon Musk was issuing an incontrovertible promise when he said he was going to only buy “local” raw materials a few years ago while he was being a showman for his Gigafactory… he probably will buy some of his lithium from US producers, I imagine, but only if they are similar in cost to the lithium he can buy from the world’s major producers in South America and Australia. If the prices are similar, then the production capacity and the mature operations mean the South Americans, from what I can tell, are going to make a lot more money than the Nevadans. That might include Lithium X if they can get their Argentina project built and up to capacity over the next five or ten years, but it’s going to take some time and patience.

That’s just my opinion and assessment, though, and I’m certainly not an expert on lithium production — so I may be missing some gem of information or suffering under some sort of bias that blinds me to the value of some of these assets. I’d be delighted to hear from those who disagree with me, just shout out your thoughts with a comment below.

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H. Thompson
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April 12, 2017 6:14 pm

On top of all that, apparently Dr. Moors doesn’t know the difference between a “plane” and a “plain” … that is, if you have quoted his pitch correctly!

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April 28, 2017 6:06 pm
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WAIT!! this is a money back ! guarantee !

David Underdown
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April 12, 2017 6:52 pm

Personally think ‘Dr ‘ Moors should be the ringmaster in a circus.
His spiel is all fluff and bubbles and he gives you a teaser for a low cost entry level subscription into one of his plethora of articles, and then tries to up sell to much more expensive options.
Also I would question his supposed background in Intelligence, Vietnam etc.

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Jonathan
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April 12, 2017 7:09 pm

Oh boy, I bailed out of Lithium X a while ago during the lithium mini-bubble for a modest profit. I’m doubly pleased now that it’s got the “Dr. Kent Moors Seal of Death” on it.

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Andrew
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April 12, 2017 8:07 pm

not so sure about this one, prefer to look at molybdenum and Niobium, plenty of scope in China miners http://eqibeat.com/top-20-asian-mining-stocks-by-market-cap/

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vivian
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April 12, 2017 9:34 pm

the big Li producer in exotic South American terrain is Soquimich (NYSE-SQM) in the Atacama Desert which our writer Frida Ghitis tracked out to see (or climbed up to see–it is on a peak.) another is an obscure Australian company whose main accessible listing is in Canada which mines in … Jujuy, a province of Argentina

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Nils Mellquist
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April 12, 2017 10:21 pm
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ALB, FMC and SQM are the big three and the only one a car OEM supplier would do a deal with. These juniors are jokers.

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April 25, 2017 9:19 pm
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April 16, 2017 3:57 pm

From Orocobre’s presentation dated 27 March 2017: “expansion plans to be funded without new equity.” This is, in part, due to strong cash flows from Olaroz in Argentina.

On The Olaroz expansion project, which plans to double lithium carbonate production to 35KTPA, the company “anticipates access to Japanese supported project debt in similar terms to the existing Mizuho facility.” This is what was used to fund the initial Olaroz lithium project. Those notes are at an average rate of 4.25%. The expansion estimated capex is $US160m.

Also, Japanese subsidies are available for the 10KTPA lithium hydroxide plant to be built in Japan at a cost of $US30m.

Orocobre’s SP has dropped significantly the last couple of months due to the CO reducing FY17 production to 12,000-12,500 tones from 15KTPA. This decrease is a result of pond
inventory profile restricting production rate. The CO does think think they will resolve this issue and will have significant production increase into 1H FY18 (2H CY17).

I’ve been a buyer recently of OROCF as theyarealready in production and have had this recent pull back. I also do hold LIXXF sine their management team is solid.

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Nils Mellquist
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April 12, 2017 10:20 pm

Neo Lithium much better management and assets. Travis, you do a great job of unpacking the garbage and formulaic pitches of these snake oil salesmen. I feel bad for the sucker retail investors that whip out their credit cards. This is all balderdash. And these “experts” talk out of both sides of their mouths: perfect market timing track record (yeah right) so they’ll tell you when to get out. Meanwhile, the world’s a disaster so stockpile silver bracelets, gold trinkets, physical gold, bitcoin, navy seal rations, extra water, guns, ammo, duck tape and a safe farm to flee to as well as drunks’ mini bottles of booze (for barter) when the power grid is hacked by the Russians or Chinese and the US government turns into anarchy with states succeeding. Last time I checked, we have the biggest military in the world. And to bring this full circle, the Permian is the swing producer and oil will top out at $60 before getting over supplied again so electric cars are for hollywood stars and rich liberals who like the tax incentives. The auto cycle appears to be rolling but it could be a slow roll. Bottom line: dollar cost average with ETFs and forget all of the silliness that these newsletters peddle. And this comes from someone who has been a professional money manager for more than 23 years. Kudos, Travis!

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Deep Blue
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April 27, 2017 3:32 pm
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Thanks for the reality check.

Carbon Bigfoot
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April 13, 2017 7:52 am

Sounds like the efficiency reaches Warp Factor 9.9 of the Starship Voyager. But they need to mine DILITHIUM crystals on an asteroid just to get home from the Delta Quadrant. Lots of luck

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April 21, 2017 3:51 pm
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“The needs of the many out way the needs of the few or the one”

I have to admit I got sucked into this junk for about 3 minutes, when he started saying 1233% I started to chuckle and the more I heard the more I laughed. Moore became more of a comedian than a snake oil salesman! Anyway, I started looking into this white gold and found Travis’s article to be more what I thought this was. After searching out several of the Lithium players it all proved to be crap! Thanks Travis, nice work!

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tony
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April 23, 2017 11:43 am
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Ok I read this spiel and could not figure out where the name of the company that does the mining . Let me guess he sells you that?

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April 24, 2017 6:43 pm
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What is the name of the company??

Deep Blue
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April 27, 2017 3:33 pm
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Apparently it’s Lithium X.

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askforinfo
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April 13, 2017 10:02 am

I look at it this way,

Tesla has begun production of lithium batteries at their huge new Nevada factory. A recent political development in Nevada suggests that the state is about to double down on lithium batteries and electric cars, which will enhance Tesla’s lithium supply.

“Tesla’s lithium supply chain is about to receive wave of support from the Nevada Legislature.”
Tesla gained substantial subsidies and other inducements from Nevada to locate their battery factory east of Reno. One inducement was a curious road extension connecting Tesla’s GigaFactory to US Highway 50, otherwise known as “The Loneliest Road in America”. Back in 2014 this showed how this short piece of new road would shorten the route between the GigaFactory and huge Nevada lithium deposits at Silver Peak. My conclusion that Tesla was likely to obtain GigaFactory lithium from Nevada met with scepticism at the time because there were no Nevada lithium refineries.
A year later, Tesla entered into a lithium supply agreement with Pure Energy Minerals (OTCQB: PEMIF). Pure Energy plans a radically different, solvent extraction process to separate high purity lithium chloride from brine sources adjacent to the existing Albemarle (NYSE:ALB) lithium mine at Silver Peak.
Several other “junior” lithium mining companies are operating in Nevada, all of them potential Tesla GigaFactory suppliers. Many have claims in Nevada’s Clayton Valley, near Albemarle’s lithium operation. Lithium Americas (OTCQX: LACDF) (owner of the former Western Lithium clay deposits near Nevada’s northern border) is also a player, though a recent investor presentation shows greater emphasis on its brine extraction project in Argentina.
The interesting Nevada political activity revolves around a pending BDR (bill draft request) at the Nevada Legislature’s Legislative Council Bureau. The Bureau is a team of lawyers and legal specialists who draft prospective legislation at the request of Nevada legislators. A source close to the Legislature alerted to a particular BDR requested by Assemblyman Jim Wheeler and State Senator Pat Spearman for a bill to “promote and encourage lithium mining in Nevada.” This is an interestingly bipartisan effort, Jim Wheeler being a conservative Republican and Pat Spearman a liberal Democrat.
According to Wheeler, the objective is to encourage both lithium mining and lithium refining in Nevada. The legislation would provide lithium mining companies with sales tax exemptions on lithium refining equipment, with a further prospect of reduction in associated property taxes.
Assemblyman Wheeler is careful to point out that the bill is not yet finalized, and the details, amounts of tax relief and other things are still being discussed. He did however stress how important and how beneficial it would be for Nevada to hold more of the value chain between mining lithium and making batteries. Especially as a couple of electric car makers do or plan to operate in the state.
This development is significant for investors for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the interest of the Nevada legislature in promoting both lithium mining and lithium refining points to opportunities in junior lithium mining companies, particularly those using interesting extraction technologies. The big player, Albemarle may see some benefit as well, but since its Nevada operation is a smallish part of the overall business, investors may see less leverage than with the Nevada “lithium juniors.”
The second important take-away is that Tesla is going to be better positioned for on-shore lithium supply because Nevada has the mineral resources, and perhaps even the political will to help develop Tesla’s local lithium supply chain.
Most of this text came from an article by Randy Carlson. Articles on Teslas future should be read as part of your due diligence on these investments
Take, for example, The Wall Street Journal tech’s columnist Christopher Mims’ tart observation on Twitter last week in response to the news that the market had valued Tesla (Musk’s company) higher than Ford (and therefore made it the second largest US automaker by market capitalisation):

Tesla: delivered 76,000 cars last year, deeply in debt. Ford: 20 x more revenue, billions in profits on millions of cars each year
The implication here is either that the market is wrong or that the market should stop valuing Tesla as a tech company and try valuing it as a car manufacturer.

Since Mims mentioned both Tesla and Ford, take a look at what the market is actually telling us, because whatever you might think about the relative revenue generation/profitability looking backwards, the market is really only interested in telling us what we need to know about the future of these companies within the car manufacturing industry.

A chart of Tesla shows now valued at just over $300 per share, the chart shows that the stock has just broken into all-time highs.
Charts like this should immediately put you on alert: as stocks breaking into all-time highs, particularly in sectors that are ripe for significant disruption, are very bullish long term.

Does it mean that Tesla shares will go soaring right now? It’s hard to say. But this is a strong sign that whatever side of the car manufacturing industry Tesla is on, it’s one that has a bright future.

Contrast what is going on with Ford, as a much more established company, it has a much longer price history to look back on, look at Ford share price history since the late 1990s.

Conditions for automakers have been good in the US since the financial crisis. First there was the government bailout of the industry. Then low interest rates have allowed a lot of buyers to finance new car purchases and have supported capital investments by car companies. Low gas prices in recent years have made the pain at the pump minimal for drivers. And strong employment growth meant the income was there too. So Americans went and bought cars. 2016 saw a record number of vehicles sold in the US. It beat the record set in 2015.

Despite all of this positive news, Ford’s chart over the last few years is not a strong one. There’s nothing even remotely compelling about it. Its peak was in April 1999 and its low in late 2008.

In the current cycle, which started in around 2010 in the US, it has not made back 50% of the major high to low range Shares that cannot make back 50% of a prior move down are not in a strong position. This is what the market is telling us.

You may think I am being dismissive of so-called experts. But consider this: Tesla has been one of the most heavily shorted stocks over the last few years. We’re talking serious money here. Total short bets against Tesla were over US$8 billion. And yet the share price kept consolidating, before climbing and breaking out to new highs.

These are financial professionals that have taken this view of Tesla. Rather than view the chart, I imagine that they relied on the conventional data that Mims also referred to:

• It has low sales, relative to Ford.
• It burns through huge amounts of cash on R&D, testing, prototypes, etc – some of which expenditure may never generate a return.
• it is constantly needing to back to the market to raise yet more money.
What the market is saying about the future is that Tesla is right in front of a growth industry that could sweep the world. It’s not saying the same thing about Ford. The market is prepared to go with that for now.

The driverless revolution

A report by Boston Consulting Group (BCG) released on Monday suggested that a quarter of all miles travelled by car in the US by 2030 would be in electric, driverless, ride-sharing vehicles.

This suggests that the industry is going to be severely disrupted. People are not going to be owning as many cars, particularly in cities, and certainly not ones that run on conventional combustion engines. And cars will be increasingly driverless as the technology improves and we all get used to the idea. We could all pay off our car loans for good.

To be fair, Ford is doing a lot on the latter – but it has a massive legacy of assets that, according to BCG, will soon act as liabilities on its balance sheet as the structure of the industry shifts. This is likely to mean that at some point the company will have to sort itself out again – this is likely to cost money and there’s no guarantee that it will recapture market share.

On the other hand, Tesla has built an enviable niche in the growing electric car market, with a strong brand, and leads the world on testing automation.

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Poncho
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April 21, 2017 10:12 pm
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I almost got suckered in to buying the report. I am glad to have found this article by googling it. Thank you every one who giving me the light of the day. Please keep giving these value information to those of us who need more education.

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April 23, 2017 7:50 pm
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Yes, the White Gold nonsense is just that. As far as Tesla is concerned, electric cars are not any breakthrough. When the other car companies start producing electric cars cheaper than Tesla can, the stock bubble will burst. Historically, car companies trade at low valuations. Tesla’s stratospheric valuation is absurd.
I can’t predict when the stock price will fall…..but those shorting it at that time will make much money

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April 29, 2017 1:13 am
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Do you work for Tesla?

Steve
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April 13, 2017 1:13 pm

Lithium is too expensive, limited capacity, hazardous, slow to recharge.

It was John Goodenough who co-invented the lithium-ion battery in 1970’s around the ripe old age of 50-somthing, pushing NiCad batteries aside to the alleyways of battery tech.

And guess what, lithium stock lovers—Goodenough, now in his mid-90’s, has just put the lithium -ion battery on it’s way to obsolescence, too. Here’s a story on Goodenough’s new glass battery technology:

https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

With such a discovery, I wouldn’t go into lithium stocks except for short-term gains. In due time Goodenough’s (or someone else’s) battery technology will take all the wind out of lithium’s sails (or is that ‘sales?’). If not the glass battery then maybe the one at powerjapanplus.com will take the lead in battery tech. Or someone else.

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April 23, 2017 2:28 am

see also: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/super-battery.html
They interview a lithium ion battery manufacturer that has developed a plastic filler that prevents shorts; fires, combustion, and potentially dendrites. He seems very cautious about who he is willing to make deals with in the future however.

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April 23, 2017 2:35 am

see also: http://www.pbs.org/video/2365982944/
A plastic has been developed to prevent shorts; combustion and potentially dendrites.

CherieA
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April 29, 2017 1:17 am
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I would hope for something better than the Lithium battery. It’s absurd to put ones faith in a battery this bad. For years I have wondered who was really behind using these batteries.

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G. Funk
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April 15, 2017 11:05 pm

More Corporate Lie’s ! To get money from the not so rich ! to fill there pockets why ? Cant people just be honest.

Victory
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May 1, 2017 8:50 pm
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BECAUSE BEING HONEST DOESN’T MAKE ENOUGH $$$$ ,,,

Normally Dubious
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April 16, 2017 12:04 pm

Other than Bill Patalon’s Private Briefing with its occasional good tip, I’m considering clicking Unsubscribe to everything else Money Map Press.

I’ve already held Lixxf with no particular long term profit.

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Glenn Henderson
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April 16, 2017 12:39 pm

Dont miss the futures here. If ev cars production globally to 40% of all cars you just got stupid here on these negative comments. The big 3 cant keep up with present growth. Lixxf is the best buy to bet on long. Orocobre also and pure energy. Buy those 3 go long….

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April 21, 2017 9:09 am

So, is there any rational way to compare the “power” of lithium to that of gasoline?

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April 23, 2017 1:31 pm

Your observations are correct. Add to that the problem with charging a 100kw(130hp) motor’s battery. A Tesla’s motor/battery combo is likely larger. 100kW is just a good number for comparison. If they have 3 hours of energy capacity in them, that’s 300 kW-hr of charging. Look at your home energy bill and compare. For a lot of people, their homes are 100A service which roughly translates to 100kW capacity for providing power. So, it would take the average home about 3 hours at full capacity to charge a battery (300kW-hr) . Compare to how long it takes to fill a gas tank. In any case, there are a lot of undiscussed problems with electric cars that will need addressing before they can replace gasoline powered vehicles.

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April 26, 2017 12:21 pm
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I’m with you. They are missing the boat.

Paul Butler
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April 21, 2017 10:01 am

Interesting but the Lithium Ion battery has a limited shelf life with the new glass batteries created by the inventor of the Lithium battery. This is something to invest in.

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April 21, 2017 11:55 am

Here is Money Morning’s pitch: “Just one gallon of OBL fuel could power a car on a round-trip between New York City and Los Angeles seven times.” https://moneymorning.com/2017/04/19/oro-blanco-fuel-could-have-nearly-unlimited-profit-potential-for-investors/

Making it seem like a consumable fuel that has incredible energy density.

Rechargeable batteries do not consume fuel; the raw materials that go into them are not measured in “gallons;” and even a Tesla Model S with the premium 85 kWh battery would have to stop and recharge ten times on a trip from NYC to LA.

If “OBL fuel” is simply lithium raw material that goes into rechargeable batteries, Money Morning’s pitch is the most fraudulent thing I’ve ever read. I normally favor small government, but doesn’t the Securities and Exchange Commission have anything to say about this kind of fraud?

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andy
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andy
April 21, 2017 12:18 pm

Perhaps Dr. Kent Moors should take some lithium to calm down.

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Poncho
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April 22, 2017 2:56 am
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Well, he is a snake oil salesman. I almost buy his report if I didn’t fine this article before I decide to.

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gridflash
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April 21, 2017 1:28 pm

The Sal De Los Angeles is the real deal. Clayton Valley is just for marketing.

OBL
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OBL
April 21, 2017 4:20 pm

What a crock

Peter
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April 21, 2017 6:48 pm

Sounds fantastic, but what about the “emissions” from burning OBL? The ‘scuttlebutt’is that the fumes from OBL are highly toxic, poisonous, much more so then gasoline. any truth to this?

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April 22, 2017 3:31 am

The only way that lithium could 1693X more power than gasoline. Is the other use not mentioned….it used in molten metal reactors fueled with thorium.

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