Become a Member

“Oil Vacuum: Key to Unlocking 800 Billion Barrels?”

Many of you have emailed me about this one, and a few have ventured solutions in email or in the forums or comments on previous articles (most of you are right, of course). This is a teaser from Agora’s Energy and Scarcity Investor edited by Byron King, which I don’t think I’ve looked at before (though many have commented on their previous teaser, for the “China Lake” geothermal investments). The newsletter is one of the pricier ones I’ve looked at lately, $995 (which is the “lowest price ever offered” and a price that will “expire soon,” of course).

And the primary teaser here is for this “oil vacuum” technology, and the company that owns it. So let’s take a look …

Apparently, this technology is owned by a small company, with a stock price under $3, and, in their words …

“… the U.S. Department of Energy says the only company that has it could be key to unlocking an 800 billion barrel oil deposit in the Rocky Mountains.”

The ad says they’ll be producing oil with this technology by the end of next month, and it also says that they have a signed contract to produce from an oil field in Canada as soon as this coming Autumn, so there is some near-term catalyst here, perhaps, for the shares. What else are we told about them?

The technology is touted here as a way to extract oil from the challenging shale beds in the Rocky Mountains area, which is where the “3X the reserves of Saudi Arabia” bit comes in. But it also apparently can make oil in other ways, including from junk.

“That’s right. The “Oil Vacuum” can squeeze oil from landfill trash — using just pennies of electricity to make $5 of fuel and other products.

“Time named the “Oil Vacuum” one of its Best Inventions of 2007 — based on just this one capability.”

And they chime in with a quote from Popular Science, too:

“It sounds too good to be true; a machine that takes in trash and spits out oil and natural gas. But that’s exactly what [the Oil Vacuum] can do.”

Oil from trash? I’m sure there’s a catch in here somewhere, but that certainly sounds compelling, no?

Which is why, I suppose, the “conservative estimate” of returns from this company are 1,310%. Does the fact that they say it’s conservative make it likely? Well, that’s your call … let’s find a little more information to help you decide.

The copywriter here actually did a good job of explaining what the “oil vacuum” is and how it works — it’s based on microwave technology, which makes intuitive sense if we consider that adding heat to liquefy petroleum out of tar is a major way that challenging oil fields like the tar sands have been attacked in recent years.

Here’s an excerpt of that explanation:

“Here’s the thing: Microwaves are like radio waves. They operate across a wide spectrum of frequencies — more than 10 million. Your kitchen microwave operates within a very narrow spectrum of those frequencies to heat up a cold cup of coffee.

“Find just the right frequency among those 10 million, and you can heat up just about anything under the sun.

“Including things made of oil that have outlived their usefulness. They can actually be turned back into oil!

“That’s what dawned on a scientist in New Jersey one day in 1996 as he turned on the local news. He saw a giant tire fire at an illegal dump, belching acrid smoke for miles around.

“What if, he wondered, instead of loading up our landfills with old tires, you could blast a tire with just the right microwave frequency to break it down into the materials it’s made of — including oil?

“This was the beginning of the ‘Oil Vacuum.'”

Nice and clear, right? Makes you wonder why you didn’t come up with this invention yourself?

There’s more — this is apparently a working machine, at least the “trash to oil” microwave/vacuum (they had to put it in a vacuum to keep oxygen from getting in and making the metal trash, and the metal in the tires, explode).

Are you getting our free Daily Update
"reveal" emails? If not,
just click here...


So I guess that’s a crafty play on words to get our attention, too — how many of you pictured a giant vacuum cleaner that could suck the oil out of the ground? Come on, raise your hand — there’s no shame here! A vacuum sucking goodies out of the earth sounds more fun than a complicated machine that can only operate in a vacuum, huh? Dang.

More on the inventor’s progress:

“After some additional refinements, he perfected a machine about the size of a phone booth that in minutes can transform a 14-inch tire into…

“1.2 gallons of diesel fuel
50 cubic feet of combustible gas
7.5 pounds of carbon black (useful for making everything from ink to athletic gear)
2 pounds of high-strength steel.”

“And it’s not just the tires from a junked car that the “Oil Vacuum” can transform into oil.

“There are metal, plastics, rubber, foam… adding up to about 10% of the car’s weight… all of which can be run through the ‘Oil Vacuum’ and transformed into 80% combustible gases — and 20% oil. With no emissions. And no pollution. The amount of waste that goes to a landfill is cut by 65%.”

So, apparently this uses just electricity, and the teaser says that it uses 50 cents of electricity to generate $5 of oil and natural gas and other good stuff, even as it cuts down on the amount of junk that has to be tossed into the landfill.

This part of the business appears to be first in line for the “oil vacuum folks” …

“In fact, an auto recycler in New York State will be using it onsite no later than May 31. And a California firm will build a brand-new tire recycling plant in Arizona this year, built exclusively around the “Oil Vacuum.” It’ll process 60,000 pounds of tires every day.”

OK, OK, so enough excerpts from the ad.

The other use of this microwave “oil vacuum” technology is in recovering otherwise unrecoverable reserves — the 70% or so (depending on who’s estimating) of the oil in most basins that can’t be recovered using current conventional drilling. Apparently they drop the microwave thingy down the well shaft, heat up the stuff, and it comes out liquefied and partially refined (so this is another teaser about getting a head start on refining, too, not unlike the “underground refinery” that we looked at a little while ago).

And the third use is for shale oil — we’ve looked at a number of shale oil teasers in the past, and there are many more, but the big thing with shale oil is that the successful extraction techniques almost all involve heating up the shale to scare out the good petrocarbons in liquid form, then pumping that stuff to the surface (this is a simplification, of course, but your Gumshoe is a simple man). So, the theory goes, if they have to heat it up, why not a microwave instead of the super expensive stuff that Shell, among others, has been working on developing (and which involves using lots of natural gas, not completely unlike the SAGD process for oil sands recovery). One of Shell’s problems that they had was that you have to not only heat the shale, but also supercool the shale in surrounding areas to create a barrier so that you don’t just heat up the shale oil and then watch it drain deeper into the earth (again, this is the simpleton’s take). Could this “microwave oil vacuum” possibly solve that problem or otherwise make the extraction feasible?

The market cap of the company is, as of the time the email was put together, about $62 million. That’s certainly a teensy, weensy company.

And the Thinkolator happily spits out an answer when asked, “what’s the company?”

This is: Global Resource Corp (GBRC, trades over the counter on the pink sheets)

The shares are up about 20% today so far, thanks no doubt to this relentless advertising campaign — and, I assume the new, eager-to-buy subscribers that the newsletter has no doubt picked up as a result. They ran up to over $5 last fall, but are currently at about $2.40 (the $2-3 range is where they’ve been for most of the last six months).

So … that future promise? The ad said that “it’s just a matter of time before the “Oil Vacuum” is licensed … maybe even [to] one of the “Big Three” in the oil services field … there’s no telling how high this company’s stock will go once that happens.”

You know, in writing about these teasers for over a year now I expect that the absolutely most common phrase in these promises is “it’s just a matter of time,” since nearly every single promise made about one of these companies is couched in the fact that it will succeed over the long run, even if there is promise of a near-term blip.

Which does call to mind Keynes’ famous quote, “Long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead.”

But still, what else is there to know about this company?

They really did make the 2007 “best inventions” list for Time. The iPhone was the overall top pick, incidentally.

The recycling technology is real, it apparently works, and it’s getting some attention. Here’s the Popular Science note that was quoted in the ad. They’re still working at perfecting the 1-ton version of this “recycling” machine, but they say that the delays they’ve had so far are unrelated to the core operations of the device. The company does a good job of providing lots of examples and explanation of their RF microwave technology and its application to various energy recovery projects on their website (though of course, they don’t say much negative about their prospects).

The company’s last 10K gives us a few things that might be worth investigating or worrying about, including the output from their main process (the recycling of tires into fuel is the most “proven” technology that they’re building on now):

“The precise composition of the resulting condensed liquid is not known but it has been tested and has a BTU content comparable to diesel fuel so the Company believes that it can be readily sold for fuel value.”

So that sounds certainly more couched than the teaser copy — it’s not like the machine spits out crude oil or diesel directly, so there might be some glitches there in selling the stuff (or maybe not — this is just one question).

Other risk factors that they cite, beyond the obvious ones that they are a developmental stage company with need for more financing, and they’re not profitable:

“The technology, while usable for the disposition of various waste materials, is primarily aimed at the recovery of hydrocarbons, i.e., energy. A major factor in the success of the technology, as applied, and the success of the Company, is the ability to recover energy which has a value greater than the cost of the energy being input into the process. That is uncertain until the initial machines are built and operated.”

and…

“Our success will be dependent upon our ability to commercialize the technology, of which there is no assurance. While the processes work in the laboratory environment, in what are essentially “batch” procedures, commercialization will require that the processes be scaled up, with large machinery and equipment, and that such machinery and equipment operate on a “continuous feed” basis. While much of the material processing and handling
machinery and equipment is commercially available, the critical piece will be the microwave generators and their housing.

“We are in the process of building the first unit which will be used to demonstrate the technology in a continuous feed process and to prove the operational efficiency. There is no assurance that the unit will initially function as anticipated and it may require substantial redesign, remanufacture, and reassembly.”

And while you may picture in your mind a giant machine that you can just throw a junked car into and watch the oil flow out the other side, it is of course much more complex than that — everything has to be hacked into chips before it goes into the machine, they have to create a vacuum for each load and process the stuff, then clean the junk out of the device. So they need to perfect the constant flow of pieces into the machine, and it sounds like the machine has to be tuned for different materials — they’re working with an Ingersoll unit on the machines, but it sounds, to a non-engineer, like a significant engineering challenge to turn this from a proven concept to an easily-managed industrial process.

They also state, in that same filing which was released just two weeks ago, that their four key patents have been filed but are still “pending” — so they are confident in their intellectual property portfolio, but it’s certainly not guaranteed … and they own nothing else of value. Literally, nothing.

As far as the oil projects, which might be what interests more investors as the shale oil and tar sands and “unrecoverable” oil technologies always seem to get a lot of attention, this is the sum total of their description of that business in their annual report:

“With respect to the other hydrocarbon applications of the technology, the Company will continue its R&D in each of the areas and seek out joint venture partners for field testing and ultimate licensing to users.”

So … there may be hope, and there is some news since the end of last year, but this is still a loooong way away from making shale oil commercially feasible in new areas. They have licensed Canadian rights to Warwick for use in the oil shale up North — which includes an order for a machine to process the shale, and they gave them those rights for 20 years, so that should probably indicate something about either how much Global Resource needs the money, or how much of an early-state gamble the technology is. The press release is here, but do note (and this seems very important to me), that this is a machine for processing mined oil shale. It’s essentially similar to the machine for processing chipped tires, only larger (five tons versus one ton) and probably using different frequencies, but it requires that you dig the stuff up first and it runs into all the same processing/continuous vs. batch challenges. That makes this not terribly practical, at least yet, for the oil shale of the Rocky Mountain states — the dream for oil shale production, at least as I understand it, is in situ production, not mining of the rock and refining it, even if the refining uses a new and more effective microwave process. So maybe there’s hope, but this company’s technology looks like it represents but one small step.

The current company is a conglomeration of the technologies of Carbon Recovery Corporation and Mobilestream Oil, which were apparently acquired or merged or rolled into this Global Resources Corp back in 2006, so you might run into those two names as you do your research.

And — again, as of the end of last year, they had about $1 million in cash and assets, and had spent $10 million in 2007. So that math doesn’t work very well — they have since sold some shares to foreign investors, and have used shares to pay consulting fees, but I have little doubt that they’ll have to raise a lot of money if they’re going to continue advancing their business (unless they simply license out their patents and don’t build or develop anything themselves, and it appears to me that they’re probably a ways from getting to that point even if that’s the path they choose — the technologies, especially the field oil extraction technologies, probably have to be more proven first, I’m guessing).

This one is kind of interesting, if for no other reason than that the technology is fascinating and, if it does work at commercial scale, could make a big difference. The only cautions I would share are those above, and that the company’s real focus and expertise so far is in the trash recycling microwave — that’s probably the best bet if you’re wagering that one of their applications is going to work commercially in the next couple years, but it is, still, a bet. To me, it sounds unfortunately like it’s a better story than it is an investment, but I’ve certainly been wrong before and the shares might indeed shoot up by 1,300% if Byron King is right — but now, you can make that call yourself after you’ve done your research and gotten familiar with the company.

I’m sure many of you have looked into, and maybe bought shares of, this company already — if you’ve got an opinion, or some more facts about the company or their prospects, please feel free to share.

Happy Investing!

Want to keep up with the Gumshoe? Click here to subscribe now — free email alerts.

guest

12345

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

68 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Farmtopia
Guest
April 9, 2008 6:03 pm

Great work Gumshoe! You really know your stuff. But I did want to reply to Andy Reaume and Bill’s remark on Agora.

I have been a subscriber to Agora’s Outstanding Investments for years which is also edited by Byron King (sorry Gumshoe, not Brian King). This newsletter has been consistently rated by The Hulbert Financial Digest as one of the top performing newsletters for the past few years and currently sits at #1 over a 5 year period with a 40.6% annualized gain. The Energy and Scarcity Investor has only been around a few months but I suspect with Byron at the helm it will do well too.

Anyway, Byron King has made me a lot of money over the years and I had to set the record straight. Thanks!

Add a Topic
6137
Add a Topic
365
Add a Topic
687
Only one
Guest
Only one
April 9, 2008 7:07 pm

Didn’t Byron King say that divx was going to rule San Diego last year when the stock was at $23.00!What is it now $6.00!Don’t fall for his teasers!

Add a Topic
687
Add a Topic
153
Add a Topic
5971
brenda
brenda
April 9, 2008 7:51 pm

Thanks Farmtopia — yes, I typoed the name, sorry, will go back and fix that. This is the peril of being your own editor.

And you are absolutely correct, Outstanding Investments has for many years been, well, outstanding. I can confirm that it is a top performer on Hulbert’s list. I’d be careful about making the same assumptions about Energy and Scarcity, which has a much narrower focus and, if it’s like other newsletters that focus on a particular sector, is probably going to go up and down with the sector and be much more volatile than Outstanding Investments.

Thanks for the correction, and I’m always happy to hear from people who are happy with the newsletters they subscribe to — even if the teaser picks from their ads happen to stink.

Add a Topic
365
Add a Topic
365
👍 7
ken Burnett
Guest
ken Burnett
April 9, 2008 8:00 pm

I am happy to have found your website. The newsletter from Agora etc aare tempting but you provide us with a different perspective. We may still invest but it is our decision.

I once subscribed to a research report and it used the word imminent take over. I bought and the price is holding and it still lookss promising but imminent was misleading. The company is in Biotech and its designation is MS.TO

Thanks for your insights

Add a Topic
6137
Peter Deacey
Peter Deacey
April 9, 2008 9:21 pm

Yes Agora is big and wealthy, and Byron King is
one of their best editors. However they are all
under pressure to generate INCOME, and this can
lead to exaggeration and at times downright false
information — remarkable teasers.
With Gumshoe on deck we have a level of diligence
unavailable to most. Be thankful and remember
to CONTRIBUTE!!

Add a Topic
6137
Add a Topic
687
Add a Topic
5916
Investorgirl
Guest
Investorgirl
April 9, 2008 9:34 pm

Hi guys
Any one remember the Brown gas inventions? Does this sound like the same people? What ever happened to the brown gas invention? I am so tired of the bombardment in my email I could just —-. Does anyone know a real stock that is really doing something?

Add a Topic
5971
Cindy Schermerhorn
Guest
Cindy Schermerhorn
April 9, 2008 11:53 pm

Hello Gumshoe,
I really enjoy your newsletter and your wit. I remember about 5 years ago there was a ‘company’ that got simple minded people to invest a fortune in their ‘simple’ idea. It was a machine that magically took in dirt on one end and spit out gold on the other end. Sound familiar? Tires in one end and oil on the other end! Ha. It was a terrible scam and they all wound up in prison. Thank you for your newsletter, I really enjoy it!

Add a Topic
210
Add a Topic
359
EZ
Guest
April 10, 2008 4:39 am

Any knowledge on new offering from S & A called FDA Report

Add a Topic
3022
JG
Irregular
JG
April 10, 2008 6:36 am

Gumshoe………outstanding preliminary analysis. Agora is promoting this newsletter like crazy right now, bombarding anyone and everyone who has an email address. While Outstanding Investments has done well, this speculative company is clearly something that Mr. King should have examined further regarding the corporate setup while also examining the new technique. Great job!

Add a Topic
6137
Add a Topic
365
BigA
Member
BigA
April 10, 2008 11:12 am

Gumshoe…I think the mixed review on “oil Vacuum” and Global Resorces is valid. Angora spins it great but have overlooked the facts. I have researched this company and its technology in depth. I have a huge difference of opinion. This is not new – EWMC has had the same model for 10-15 years and have done nothing with it. From the top check out how the CEO and the CFO have used several prior corporations to gain funds to hype this one. Careful here.

Add a Topic
359
MLJ
Guest
MLJ
April 12, 2008 3:52 pm

Just a comment on the small companies with “breakthrough” technology. A few years ago I read up on a small company with a new technology for processing and cleaning oil from dirt/sand and potentially shale. The company was Sequoia Interest Corp (SQNC.PK)and the product was called DiamondFlo Polymers. Everything I read and could find about the company seemed to be on the up and up; unfortunately for me and many others, they sort of dissapeared and so did my investment. I caution anyone and everyone to proceed with due diligence on this new “find”.
I truly applaud you Gumshoe for all of your efforts!

Add a Topic
359
Add a Topic
791
j bailey
April 13, 2008 5:43 am

THE OLE STOCK GUMMER DOES NOT EDIT OUT GEMS FROM A DEVOTED PATRON: HNSO.PK: 0.0060 +0.0010 (+20.00%) : HEALTHNOSTICS -Yahoo! Finance And yes I own a million shares @ 0.0045 Really I am wired to this one and this one is AN OXYMORON really headed

The stock is HNSO Phil, and U could retire on it……and love me for such a tip$$$$

This update is after the latest news release acquiring a significant interest in Global Med Direct. R this thoroughly to get a real understanding of what is going to happen with this stock trading under a penny! 25 million people in America suffer from Diabetes! Think of costs when it comes to medication, testing strips and doctor visits…. And understand that diabetics NEED to test themselves and buy the supplies. As per the press release last week, HNSO states that GMB is doing $10,000,000.00 in Annual revenues, but it is a small piece of a huge pie. That is why I am so excited about the potential here now!

First you need to visit the new company….. http://www.globalmeddirect.com/

Global Medical Direct is a nationwide Durable Medical Equipment provider specializing in direct to consumer diabetes supplies. The Company provides diabetes products and educational services to help patients lead healthier and more productive lives. Global Medical Direct provides an easy-to-use, cost effective and convenient way for patients to obtain their diabetes supplies and medications through their health plan, employer and government payers such as Medicare and Medicaid. The Company’s products include blood glucose meters, test strips and ancillary supplies, insulin pumps and supplies, diabetic shoes and orthopedic inserts and diabetes maintenance medication.

Now you have to look at the potential market and these INSANE PPS numbers. Remember…These are real numbers and all part of potential growth…..This makes me wonder how long this PPS WILL BE SUB PENNY!!
The total annual economic cost of diabetes in 2007 was estimated to be $174 billion. Medical expenditures totaled $116 billion and were comprised of $27 billion for diabetes care, $58 billion for chronic diabetes-related complications, and $31 billion for excess general medical costs. Indirect costs resulting from increased absenteeism, reduced productivity, disease-related unemployment disability, and loss of productive capacity due to early mortality totaled $58 billion. This is an increase of $42 billion since 2002. This 32% increase means the dollar amount has risen over $8 billion more each year.
The 2007 per capita annual costs of health care for people with diabetes is $11,744 a year, of which $6,649 (57%) is attributed to diabetes.
One out of every five health care dollars is spent caring for someone with diagnosed diabetes, while one in ten health care dollars is attributed to diabetes.

How do we know if GMD will not grow to 100 mill in revenues based on the increase in the amount of money being spent each year? We don’t, but we MUST assume based on the FACTS stated.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? $$$$$ With 200 million shares outstanding and a price of $0.006 HNSO (where I loaded up!) has a market cap of 1.2 million dollars. GMD is doing $10 mill in revenues…..not including medbioworld valuation of between 6 and 10 mill……THIS STOCK SHOULD BE TRADING WAY HIGHER RIGHT NOW! I SAY AT LEAST NOT LESS THAN $0.15 WHICH IS LIKE A MOON SHOT! LIKE 36 TIMES THE PRESENT PRICE

Do the math..Compare this to other stocks. This is a no brainer. All you have to know is that when a company has REAL revenues, not projected….The share price will rise accordingly. We have all of the signs of a major event unfolding here. And the best part of this is the price right now. Under a half a penny is INSANE….

PUTTING THE RUMORS TO SLEEP

HNSO does not have a convertible debenture and was never financed with DEBT! NO REVERSE SPLIT. 200 mill out is no reason to do a r/s No back door stock financing or printing of shares. What you see everyday is a bunch of Bull that the traders want you to see. Nobody has shares that they can unload unless they are taking a major LOSS! This stock was 12 cents 2 yrs ago when they had NOTHING!!

PLEASE! YOU WILL LOVE ME TO PIECES OOPS! THE MKT CAP IS/wuz MERELY A PALTRY $1,200 K…..How is this with 10 mill in revs? Its gonna explode, please excuse I made a mistake of a few decimal points in my excitement

This is a product of my research, and I am so happy to share it with you dear friend.

Add a Topic
5971
Add a Topic
5971
Add a Topic
5971
Barry Smith
Guest
Barry Smith
April 13, 2008 11:36 pm

About twenty years ago, there was a process developed by (I think) Foster-Wheeler for Conoco at their Westlake LA refinery. The idea was to take tires and turn them into coke (not coca-cola). Used tires, made of vulcanized rubber, are very high in sulfur, but could become a good source of energy.

Anyway, the idea was to take the tire material, feed it into a furnace along with crushed limestone which would then absorb (or adsorb, I forget which way that works) the sulfur. End products would be the clean coke, and gypsum (calcium sulphate -CaSO4). All this was to be done non-mechanically, using a continuous bed process. I don’t know what ever became of the project.

The problems I have with all of these used tire projects, are these: 1 : Sure, the material is there, but how do you ECONOMICALLY shred and process the tires. 2: Where are you going to do al of this? What about permitting, water supply, disposal? To do it on any scale would require a rail link or large truck terminal. If you can’t get permitting and land for a new refinery, what makes you think you can get it for this? 3: How exactly is the technology proprietary? Don’t you think that Exxon, Dow, General Electric and all the rest would be doing this if there was really anything to it?

I try to keep an open mind, but the past track record of these things has not been good. Any comments appreciated.

Add a Topic
780
Add a Topic
1486
Add a Topic
540
BigA
Member
BigA
April 14, 2008 4:54 pm

Barry Smith
I love your analysis – this is not rocket science. I have studied and analyzed this for 15 years. The theory is good. Take waste tires, with 2 barrels of oil and about 950 pounds of carbon black per ton and reduce them. You are so correct – this has been tried. Why these big guns failed is a guess. From all of the proposed processes I have seen none have met the major criteria. This is basically pyrolysis – which is heating the tires to break them down. One can use several procedures but the most important is the temperature. If you go to high temp., as in gassification, you do two things. The emissions created have to be dealt with and the gasses produced add a costly element to the capital cost. Another key element is Zero pollution. The final two factors are linked – volume and profitability. This is where the failure lies. It has been solved but Global are miles away. Look at molecularwastetech.com

Add a Topic
359
Barry Smith
Guest
Barry Smith
April 15, 2008 12:04 am

BIGA

I looked at this myself, actually had a site in mind with all the right things in place (rail spur, water). It was an abandoned refinery site, but still had some of the stuff in place. The first major stumbling block was, how can you shred the tires? Keep in mind that most tires now are steel belted, which is great for driving but further exacerbates the shredding process. Looking around (this was before there was so much info on internet), I had to research it the old fashioned way, going to libraries, pouring through trade journals and such. I found a company in Sweden (can’t remember the name), and they were looking at this (and it is a simple version): Put the tires in a black box, and use liquid nitrogen to lower the temp down to where steel and rubber become brittle. Then, using something like a large deadweight press-like a sheet metal stamper-crush them into little chunks. Now you have your material ready.
The idea seems to have some merit, but again, there is an overall energy budget. The various forces involved (frictional, kinetic, mechanical) are all generating heat. Any time you trade one form of energy (or more to the point, power) for another you lose . You have to keep the material cold long enough to process it. You have to first buy and recover the n2. You are talking cryogenic welding and alloy steels, special seals and valves for everything-not cheap. Anytime you have mechanical equipment to maintain, you are talking high dollar labor costs, spare parts, and such.

Again, it has been a good 15 years since I looked at this, so I don’t know what happened with that deal in Sweden. Maybe nothing.

So while the basic idea has merit, there are lots, and lots of questions.
I recommend as a basic text, the book The Bottomless Well.

Add a Topic
540
Add a Topic
2487
Add a Topic
2487
clicclic
Guest
April 15, 2008 7:05 am

Investorgirl: not sure if you’ll see this (ever) but I’ll assume you will: I met Yull Brown back in 1995 in Los Angeles and was given a tour of his workshop. He was a very interesting man and his “gas” was unusual to say the least. My friend bought two Brown Gas generators which at that time were manufactured in China (well, it was unusual back then!). Anyway, the gas – which I think is hydrogen/oxygen but in a strange combination – does have unusual characteristics. You can put it on your hand and it won’t even burn it; then immediately put it on carbon and watch it melt. I am pretty sure Brown’s Gas is used in industry in strange esoteric stuff. You can “weld” strange alloys together etc. Outside of that, further research is needed.

Add a Topic
108
Ian
Guest
Ian
April 15, 2008 9:13 am

There was a tiny East coast Canadian company by the name of EMR Microwave that had actually perfected (to some degree), and was in trails with mining companies, a microwave-based mining system for Gold and Oil extraction. I seem to recall they had a number of patents in the area too which could affect other’s abilities to patent similar technologies/techniques. Sadly they closed down before Gold and Oil really took off.

Add a Topic
210
Add a Topic
359
Add a Topic
210
pete
Guest
pete
April 15, 2008 5:34 pm

I am new to this and recently opened account at share builder.com-but I cant buy most of those pink sheet stocks…Anyone can tell me online broker that sells them??Thank you for any help….

Henry Summerall
Member
Henry Summerall
April 15, 2008 6:00 pm

Pete:
I have been very pleased with my Schwab on-line account handling pink sheet stocks with $8.95 commission per trade regardless of size. Scottrade is not nearly so good with these PK stocks, as they will usually tell you to call their office for many foreign stocks that are PK-listed.

Al Hull
Guest
Al Hull
April 15, 2008 8:59 pm

Investorgirl-
The Brown’s Gac technology is proceeding apace. I am currently building a unit designed by an automotive engineer named Powers based on Stan Meyers work. Also Aquygen in Clearwater,Fl. is selling a welding/cutting torch using HHO gas (Brown’s Gas) & say they will have a unit out this year that will run your car on HHO. Check it out; last I heard he (Danny Klien) was still looking for investors.

We use cookies on this site to enhance your user experience. By clicking any link on this page you are giving your consent for us to set cookies.

More Info  
7
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x