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Ferris’ “The Hands-Down, No. 1 Pick of My Career” Pitch

What's the Extreme Value pitch about? They say "ONE Stock Could Return 20x Long Term and Save Your Retirement in the Coming Crash"

We’re seeing a lot of questions this week about the promo from Stansberry for Dan FerrisExtreme Value (currently $1,499, no refunds), so that’s our focus for today.

And it looks like this is a repeat of an ad we’ve looked at a couple times over the past 18 months, but it’s got a new tweak thanks to the current surge in optimism about gold. Here’s a bit from the email that Ferris sent around earlier this week:

“The new bull market in gold is here.

“Since bottoming last August, gold has soared past $1,400 an ounce. It’s up nearly 10% in the past month alone.

“But I suspect this is only the beginning of a much bigger move….

“… this could be the best moment in decades to own gold investments.”

And about his “no. 1 move” for this gold bull market…

“… while the best miners can return hundreds of percent in a gold bull market – most of them are extremely risky.

“I’ve found something much better.

“It’s a business with the same kind of upside as the very best miners… but the risk profile of a dirt-cheap value stock.

“I consider it the single best gold business on the planet. And I make the case right here why it could return upwards of 2,000% in the coming years.”

So yes… the stock is the same one he’s been similarly touting every few months since February of 2018 as his “only stock I’d buy if I could only buy one” idea… and yes, the story has changed a little bit as gold has, so the gold bugs will tell you, “broken out of its range” and hit new five-year highs (it’s still well below its peak in the 2011-2013 “gold bull”, so it could fizzle out like that early 2016 run in the price of gold, one never knows), so we’ll re-share that solution here… and add some updates where needed.

Most of what appears below was first published on March 5, 2019.

Here’s the intro to the ad “presentation,” which is staged as an interview Stansberry’s Jared Kelly did with Ferris… including plenty of 60 Minutes-style back-and-forth in someone’s parlor, along with a chat while they walk around the neighborhood with a trailing camera. Say what you will about the silliness of these teaser ads (and I’ll agree with you), but they are at least looking more professional these days.

“For the First Time in Six Years:

Stansberry’s Most Secretive Analyst Comes Forward –

“Says ONE Stock Could Return 20x Long Term and Save Your Retirement in the Coming Crash

‘If I had to put all my money in one stock, this would be it.'”

There’s a lot more of that chatter about how this secretive analyst begrudgingly agreed to appear on camera for an hour to discuss this idea, just because this is the “single opportunity he’s spent over 20 years searching for in the markets” … as if Ferris isn’t a newsletter writer whose livelihood depends on recruiting new subscribers every few months. And, of course, glossing over the fact that this “interview” took place last year.

To be fair, Extreme Value is not promoted as aggressively as many letters, and that might in part be because Dan Ferris doesn’t come out with a new idea every month — he has gone for years with only an occasional new recommendation, I’m told, which must be hard for marketers to work with, and so he cultivates the image of the curmudgeonly value investor who waits around for years for the right buying opportunity (that might be too cynical of me, that may actually be his personality and not just a cultivated image… but that’s how Ferris is sold to us).

So what is it that he’s recommending now? Here’s how Kelly prefaces it:

“Considering the accuracy of his recent warnings, you might think I’ve cancelled all my meetings and taken a 5-man crew from Baltimore to the Pacific Northwest simply to record another gloomy message about the market’s dire prospects going forward.

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“But that’s not what’s happening.

“Just the opposite.

“I’ve made this decision because the man you’re about to meet has agreed to share a secret that he says could quite literally save your retirement in the next few years if you take action today.

“He’s told us that he considers this THE single best investment opportunity he’s ever run across in more than 20 years. And predicts it could easily see a return of 20 times your money, over the long haul.”

And the “interview” with Kelly includes plenty of those quotes about this exciting opportunity:

“I’ve been analyzing stocks for well over 20 years.

“And I recently found the one to beat them all. It’s the single best opportunity I’ve ever found.

“It’s not even close. I don’t know how I can be any clearer.”

And, as we get a bit further through the interview, it becomes clear that this is about gold… which he says is where “people always, always put their money to protect their wealth when the world is coming apart.”

Which jibes well with his general bearish stance about the overvaluation that’s rampant in the markets. It’s clearly not just a “buy gold” recommendation, though, since, as Kelly notes in the interview, “there’s no way gold is going to go up 2,000%.”

And Ferris is not recommending a gold miner, which is the popular way to play gold with a lot of leverage since sometimes a nice gold discovery made during a gold bull market can get you 10X gains quickly. He says this is an investment with a much wider ‘margin of safety.’

Which means this is starting to sound a little bit familiar… I wonder if Ferris is pitching the same stock he touted a little over a year ago as his favorite gold investment, and then repeated a couple times in 2018. That would make the urgency of this special “interview” seem a bit odd, no?

We’ll keep an open mind, as usual, and check the clues first…

Next clue? Ferris says this is “The world’s next great royalty company.”

Crud. That makes it sound even more like this is a repeat of an older idea. But still, open minds, open hearts, we’re looking for more clues. From the ad:

“A ‘royalty’ is a payment you receive over and over again from a single asset. You can either buy a royalty-paying asset with cash… or you can earn royalties from something you created yourself… like a book….

“But new opportunities to get in on these potentially lifelong income streams don’t come around very often.

“The secret of the royalty business is having the knowledge and discipline to tap into a stream of royalties worth far more than the upfront cost to acquire them.”

I love royalties too, of course, and have invested in quite a few royalty-based investments over the years, so I’m still open that idea. But is this still the same “royalty” stock he pitched in the past?

More clues? It’s not Franco-Nevada (FNV), Royal Gold (RGLD) or Wheaton Precious Metals (WPM), which Kelly mentions in the interview (those are the three biggest mining royalty companies):

“Dan Ferris: Those are great companies. But they’re not what I’m recommending today. They’re nowhere near as good and I would be extremely surprised if any of them produced gains even half as big as this opportunity, no matter what happens to gold.”

And though he mentions Altius Minerals (ALS.TO, ATUSF), another royalty company (and one of my larger personal holdings), that’s not the recommendation today (Ferris says Altius was his no. 1 recommendation for years, and the huge number of teaser pitches about it we covered can vouch for that… and still would be no. 1, if not for this secret stock being touted today).

So yes, we’re coming down to the details and it’s seeming more and more like this is a repeat. But I continue to live in the present, and I’m trying to look with fresh eyes… what else are we told?

“Throughout our conversation, Dan refers to this unusual company as ‘the Best Gold Business on Earth.’

“And while the obvious connection is that it collects millions of dollars a day from gold…

“What interests Dan is the extremely unusual way it does so – a little known secret of the gold market that has nothing to do with mining or exploration….

“…and comes with less financial risk even than other royalty firms like Franco Nevada and Royal Gold.”

He also says that this stock could double or triple even if gold stays flat and nothing goes right, and would have to rise 50% to get to “a basic fair valuation,” but that the real opportunity for 20X returns is if the gold market goes bonkers again.

More clues:

“The Best Gold Business on Earth collects a fat, steady royalty-type payment not on a mining operation… but on a big chunk of the gold market itself.

“They essentially take a cut based on people’s desire to own gold.”

So yep, this is the same idea he was talking up a year ago. More clues come in the form of his references to “Mr. X,” who had “legendary” returns with his investment funds and is a key source for Ferris, and whose business was bought by the “best gold business on earth” for “upwards of $80 million.”

And that’s clearly a reference to Rick Rule, who has been a huge friend to natural resources newsletters everywhere and a big promoter of junior mining investments, and whose Global Resource Investments was bought by Sprott for something like $80-90 million in stock in 2013 (Rule is still a Sprott executive).

So yes, Dan Ferris is still touting Sprott, Inc. (SII.TO, SPOXF) as the “Best Gold Business on Earth,” with language that’s pretty similar to the past ads that drove questions our way and led to an article that we published in late February, 2018 and then re-shared when questions came in again a few times over the past year or so.

So it’s been about 16 months since Extreme Value was first heavily promoted using this “best gold business” idea… and thanks to the recent surge in gold prices that has brought Sprott along with it this week, the stock is now up about 9% (including dividends) while gold is up about 8% (if you go back a bit further than 2/28/18 to get rid of the impact that Ferris’ publicity had on the Sprott share price, it’s a little better — from 2/5/18 to today gold is up 6.5% and Sprott is up 20%). Here’s what the total return chart looks like since early February of last year (using GLD for the gold price):

SPOXF Total Return Price Chart

So you can see, thanks to this past week, that Sprott shares clearly have some reaction to the price of gold — though it’s also a small investment and asset management company, with other stuff going on, and sometimes things look good or bad regardless of the gold price.

We probably have to divorce the notion of whether this is an interesting investment idea from the notion that Ferris or the Stansberry marketing machine is going to be able to pinpoint the absolute best time to buy the stock. It’s that urgency of the “once in a lifetime” stock idea and the “we convinced him to go on camera for the first time” language that gets the blood racing, and that kind of urgency is critical to selling newsletters… people don’t cough up $1,499 easily, they need to be pushed into thinking that this is an “act now!” moment.

So we’ll ignore that and just step past the “this is the key moment for gold” or for Sprott language, since Ferris obviously doesn’t know that and none of the other pundits do, either… what’s interesting about Sprott, and how has their business gone lately?

Well, this is where I need to tell you that I now own a little bit of Sprott. I didn’t when I first covered this ad, but when the shares fell apart while gold was doing OK, back in January, I did open a small position.

So in order to avoid reinventing the wheel, I’ll just share with you what I wrote to the Irregulars when I first bought Sprott shares in January… and updated with my renewed look at the stock and its relationship with gold prices. I wrote most recently about Sprott in the Friday File for the Irregulars about two weeks ago, on June 11, so those who are paying members might remember bits of this.

I still agree that Sprott shares are likely to be levered to gold, mostly because of the Canadian asset manager’s heavy reliance on management fees for its exchange traded funds that provide liquid (and redeemable) access to physical gold. That hasn’t really been the case yet, at least in any kind of direct way, so this likely tendency that I see (and agree with Ferris on) certainly isn’t proven.

Sprott should be increasingly levered to those management fees IF we get a surge of interest in gold that lasts longer than a few weeks. Sprott charges a management fee to its trusts — the fee for the Sprott Physical Gold Trust (PHYS) is 0.35% of assets, for example — and the fee goes straight to Sprott to cover their “management,” it doesn’t cover the actual operating costs of the Trust (like storage, taxes, lawsuits, etc.) They say that if the total operating costs exceed 0.65%, including all those other costs, then they’ll reduce their management fee accordingly… though they do leave themselves some leeway for “extraordinary costs,” presumably stuff like big legal judgements or dramatic tax changes.

The Central Fund of Canada acquisition was the big reason for Ferris’ excitement in early 2018, since that dramatically increased the assets under management for Sprott — and that closed-end fund, which has been renamed Sprott Physical Gold and Silver Trust (CEF) currently charges a 0.4% management fee and has seen a surge of redemptions over the past year.

That’s a high management fee for assets that shouldn’t require much “managing” — they’re not trading in and out of complicated companies, they don’t need a lot of analysts traveling around the world and wining and dining management teams, they’re literally just buying gold bars in storage when people demand more shares of the Trust, and selling them when shares are redeemed for physical gold… so this is obviously an extremely scalable business. If, for example, they can convince more people to choose PHYS over the GLD ETF, the longtime market leader from State Street, the returns could quickly escalate.

Let me illustrate a little:

GLD has about $36 billion in assets right now, down from a high of about $75 billion during the gold surge in 2011-2012… PHYS has about $2.3 billion in assets and CEF about $2.6 billion, and those are by far the largest funds Sprott manages. Sprott receives 0.35% per year on the $2 billion in PHYS and 0.4% on the $2.6 billion in CEF, so that would be a total of about $17 million.

What happens if gold drops? The assets drop — it’s marked to market continually based on the gold price, after all, so if gold drops in price by 20% then, assuming no net creation or destruction of ETF shares or redemption of CEF shares, the assets under management (AUM) would be down to $3.8 billion and the fee for those two funds would drop to $13-14 million or so. Sprott wouldn’t have done anything, but the management fee is a function of the value of the fund so their revenue drops just because gold falls.

That’s not the half of it, though, because rising or falling gold prices change investor behavior — remember when gold surged higher in the first half of 2016? The price of gold went up by 25% in about six months… but the assets under management for the GLD ETF were up by 90% at the peak, because the rising gold price attracted new investors who wanted to buy GLD shares as their easiest way to get quick exposure to gold. ETFs expand and contract with demand, so when there is net demand for shares they create new ones, buying the gold to cover themselves… when there is net selling of shares they destroy shares and effectively redeem them, selling the gold.

So during that six month period, when both PHYS and GLD saw their AUM roughly double, their management fee would have doubled… even though the price of gold only went up by 25%. That’s the leverage of being an ETF manager… and, as both of these managers found last year, leverage works in both directions. In 2018, the gold price fell by about 9% from January to the October low, and yet the AUM for GLD dropped 20% at the low and PHYS dropped 16%.

What you really want from Sprott, I think, is for their management fees to easily cover their total expenses… that gives them some reasonable chance at outsize profits when other income sources come in, like their interest income or their carried interest from the private partnerships that they also manage (most of the ones that have any chance of generating fee or incentive income are their lending funds — managing outside money to lend to natural resources companies… the more venture-type funds of various sorts are so far underwater right now, even with a little recovery in the junior mining market, that the existing ones might never earn any incentive fees, though they do start new ones all the time so there’s some hope for the future if the sector really turns).

And that’s about where they are right now — in the first quarter the net management fees were $13.6 million, making up most of the net revenues of $19.4 million, and the total expenses were $14.7 million. So even though management fees are down considerably from where they were a year ago, mostly because of redemptions in the Central Fund of Canada CEF that they acquired early in 2018, they were still profitable.

Not super profitable, mind you, but they did earn nine cents a share over the last four quarters, thanks to steady management fees and some mark-to-market gains on investments as gold did pretty well in the fourth quarter… and an “Adjusted base EBITDA” of four cents per share in each of the past four quarters, which covers the quarterly three cent dividend. The dividend is growing less meaningful as the share price jumps, but it’s still decent at 3.6% (it got to 5% or so earlier in the year), and they can likely sustain that dividend without any pain as long as there aren’t a lot more redemptions in the CEF Trust, and as long as they don’t see substantial declines in gold that scare people out of the PHYS Trust ETF.

Those are meaningful caveats. And beyond the risk of gold falling again, anything can happen to this company — particularly because they’re also involved in much more opaque financing in the natural resources market, doing stuff like lending money to (or investing in) frightening little tiny gold miners, a business that they’ve been recently growing. Sprott was a substantial broad-line mutual fund provider in Canada for a long time, but has now really gotten out of the “normal” asset management business, they’re back to focusing on Eric Sprott’s (and Rick Rule’s) favorite markets in gold and precious metals and natural resources… which takes some stability away from the business, but does make them a little bit less susceptible to competition (there aren’t many big asset managers plying their trade in the natural resources market, not after losing money for this long).

And there isn’t quite as much cost competition in the gold ETFs as we see in the rest of the ETF space, at least so far — the GLD ETF has an expense ratio of 0.4%, which is really high compared to the largest ETFs in other sectors that charge less than a quarter of that amount, but they seem to get away with it just fine… Sprott’s PHYS and CEF offer a slightly more transparent exposure to physical metals, in promising to actually have allocated gold (or silver) storage for each share and to redeem large positions in physical metal, which gold bugs think is REALLY IMPORTANT and are willing to pay a little more for, so they seem to be able to get away with charging a still higher effective rate (and not really disclosing it nearly as clearly as GLD does). Plus, the Central Fund of Canada was a tax-friendly precious metals investment that US brokers loved for years, since well before the ETF craze, so there’s probably a little residual tendency to look at it for folks who’ve been in the business for a long time… habits aren’t always easily broken.

There is, importantly, a lower-cost competitor that’s taking share right now, AUM for the iShares Gold Trust (IAU), which is also very large (about $12 billion in AUM) has been climbing faster than GLD in the past year or two, likely because of its lower fees (0.25%), and other much smaller low-cost competitors like GraniteShares Gold Trust (BAR, 0.17% — AUM only a few hundred million) are also trying to attract attention. IAU would be the big worry for me when it comes to Sprott, since they have been taking share from both GLD and PHYS and threatening, perhaps, to spur a bit of a price war in gold ETFs (just this year, IAU’s AUM is up 8% while GLD’s is down 2.5% and PHYS is down about 2%).

That doesn’t mean price competition will destroy the business overnight, and Sprott does still have the marketing advantage of allocated and redeemable gold backing the shares of PHYS and CEF and their other physical exchange-traded trusts. That’s what makes them stand out among the “gold bugs,” if not among regular institutional investors who trust GLD and IAU just fine… but the underlying worry is that I don’t know if that will work in the end or not, and they are small enough that they are likely to lose a price war to iShares or State Street if it comes to that. With marketing and a focus on growth, perhaps they could balloon the AUM and cut their management fee, I don’t know, but they do have some established market presence and they will also get a natural and pretty large growth boost just from a rising gold price… at least if the history of 2016 is any indication. And if you’re enthusiastic about natural resources having a good year in general, or seeing another real boom, that would be good news for Sprott in general.

When it comes to Sprott (SII.TO, SPOXF), the appeal of the stock is almost entirely in the “leverage to gold” that they should get by being a manager of gold-related investments… particularly their ETFs that own physical gold (and silver, recently to their detriment) and will generate a larger management fee if gold prices rise… with leverage to that fee because rising gold prices also tend to increase investment in gold ETFs, which then creates yet more fees. So they benefit doubly, from both the rising price (they charge a percentage of assets, and as gold prices rise the value of the assets they own rises) and from investors putting more capital into the funds.

The only way this works really nicely, though, is if investors continue to put more money into the Sprott funds as a way to play a rising gold price. So what has been happening?

Well, a couple weeks ago I did a little experiment for the Irregulars — the gold price had a nice little jump thanks to the trade war panic, so did that bring in more assets? Did they take any share from the larger funds (IAU from iShares, the lowest-cost major gold ETF, and GLD from State Street’s SPDR group, the pioneer and by far the largest gold ETF)? I’ll update that now with today’s numbers (OK, yesterday’s — but still…)

The way to check this, in a shorthand way, is to see if the assets under management climb faster than the price of gold. So far, it looks like the typical short term reaction from market participants to “buy GLD when gold is rising” is still in place — from May 2 to today, about eight weeks, the price of gold rose by about 12.5%… if everyone was a “buy and hold” investor and the ETFs didn’t create or destroy any shares during that time, you would expect the assets under management for the gold ETFs to also rise by roughly that amount — they have the same number of shares and own the same amount of gold, it just became 12.5% more valuable.

The Sprott Physical Gold Trust (PHYS) is what I consider their most important ETF, though it’s smaller than the old Central Fund of Canada (CEF) that they bought a year and a half ago (CEF is now the “Sprott Physical Gold and Silver Trust,” but it’s a closed-end fund so the AUM doesn’t fluctuate as much, they’ve had a lot of redemptions since the takeover, and it also includes a lot of silver, which doesn’t react the same as gold does to panic times). And the indication is that any excitement about gold is still surging right into GLD, despite the fact that PHYS has arguably a more compelling “physical backing” promise and IAU offers lower costs… GLD is the brand name.

While the prices for those funds all rose essentially in lockstep, up about 12.5%, though PHYS did rise slightly higher, IAU and PHYS each saw their assets under management rise by less than 12% (IAU 11.8%, PHYS 9.4%)… which means they didn’t have any net buyers and in fact probably had a tiny bit of net selling, they lost market share (1-2% up or down might not mean much, the AUM tracking is not perfect and trails the share price by a day or two). GLD, in contrast, gained new investors and saw its AUM rise by almost 20%, a clear win over the competition. Here’s a chart showing that:

GLD Chart

And, in case you’re curious, the shares of Sprott itself rose 12% during that time period. That’s not terrible, but it’s not, of course, showing much “leverage” to gold’s 5% rise in that very brief time period. They have shown a lot of “leverage” to gold in the past week, which gives some hope that maybe the “gold breakout” headlines are driving more interest to the shares, though it could also be the renewed Stansberry attention.

A few weeks doesn’t really mean anything, but the indication is that investors don’t yet, at least, see Sprott as a levered play on gold like they often do the miners or the gold royalty companies (the mining ETF GDX was up about 25%, most of the gold royalty companies were up from 18-20% during that brief time period).

Maybe one should be careful what he wishes for, since that leverage obviously works in both directions, but the point of owning Sprott is “leverage to gold” — so the only thing that makes it reasonable still is that you do presumably still have the potential of long-term leverage to gold (if not always short-term), and you do still get their dividend while you wait to see if it works.

The pretty clear indication, though, is that for big institutional money the “buy gold” reaction is likely to be the same as it has always been… buy the big miners and/or the GDX ETF, and buy the GLD ETF… and, for those who spend enough time thinking about gold to buy royalty companies, buy the historical leaders and largest players, Franco-Nevada (FNV) and Royal Gold (RGLD). I’m particularly surprised to see that the lower-cost IAU has not gained share recently over GLD, but habits are hard to break.

The ad also hints at a cryptocurrency angle, and there is some reality to that — Sprott has been working on a way to trade “digital precious metals” using a blockchain, particularly with the OneGold partnership with gold coin retailer APMEX and Tradewind Markets. That could possibly create some incremental revenue someday for Sprott, but I wouldn’t hold my breath — gold retailing is a much lower-margin business than asset management, so they would have to attract a huge volume of money to this for it to have any impact.

So yes, Sprott is looking a bit better to me now than it did back when I first covered Dan Ferris’ pitch in February of 2018, when the takeover of Central Fund of Canada was first getting attention (and ballooning Sprott’s AUM). I do still hold some that I bought at the beginning of January as a “maybe gold will rise sharply this year” speculation, so it has recently looked good but has generally trailed my other “exposure to gold” investments until this week. It’s a tiny position for me, and there’s no reason to chase the shares on a good day, but it might be worth watching if you’re looking for a gold play that’s less risky than miners.

Sound interesting? Have any thoughts to share with your fellow readers? Let us know with a comment below… and in case it’s helpful, we’ve left the comments appended from our previous version of this article that we posted in March.

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pieter132
pieter132
March 9, 2019 9:12 am

For me the better choice is goldmoney.com both as investment and to used privately/business. Just as a stock one needs to time purchase of this stock.
With this company you have basicly the opportunity to store your money in gold,
have a bank card, transfer gold to any goldmoney members and transfer your gold anytime you want to fiat. And have too the upside with gold as a store of value.

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Mark
March 9, 2019 11:02 am

Stansberry and his “bell ringers” are truly nothing more than touts. Still wtg for Sjuggard’s “melt up”, NASDAQ to 15,000. PT Barnum was right, a sucker born every minute, or maybe these days every 30 seconds.

adbrpb
adbrpb
March 9, 2019 9:54 pm

Hesitated a bit before writing my reaction to Dan Ferris’ latest and the Stanberry Investment group in general. I have followed Porter, Doug Casey and Bill Bonner for the past decade. Began an Alliance member with Stansberry 6 years ago (get everything he publishes and everything he ever will publish in perpetuity – the entrance cost was $10K at the time with a yearly maintenance fee. To say it was the best investment of my life is an understatement. I closely Follow Steve Sjuggerud, Dr. David Eifrig, Dan Ferris and Porter – learned more about investing from them than all other “newsletters” I’ve perused combined. They published 14 newsletters when I became an Alliance member and now have a stable of 24 (the last ten including, American Moonshots, Innovation Report, Credit Opportunities, Advanced Options, and Ten Stock Trader, which all came to me free as an Alliance member). The interesting thing about Stansberry, Casey and Bonner – they are either loved or despised. I pick and choose the letters I follow and the investment strategies that suite my risk tolerance. Sjug’s Melt Up Portfolio is up 20% since inception last October and easily paid for my Alliance membership many times over. They provided me with a wealth of investment knowledge, enabled me to “sleep well at night” in retirement and helped me tackle, what I consider, the toughest investment question – when to sell. (Dr. Richard Smith’s Trade Stops provides that service and is now partnered with the Stansberry Investment group). Just me two cents for those loyal Gumshoe zealots like me who may be sitting on the fence.

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lindacampbell
lindacampbell
March 18, 2019 8:17 pm
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Hi adbrpb,
I appreciate and second your comments about the educational value of Stansberry et al. Because of them, I knew enough to become a charter member of Tradestops and could afford to do so because of my ongoing profits from Sjuggerud. I’ve also made about 30% from several of the moonshot recommendations in 3 or so months to date and am significantly up with the Revlon bond from Credit Opportunities. I am pleased as well with Doc’s recommended AMZN, BX & AXS.

That said, I take personal responsibility for each trade I make and do my own research before buying. I value resources like Stock Gumshoe, Seeking Alpha, Fidelity’s & Tradestops’ analytic services, and a trading group that formed in early 2013. Also, as an academic, I am partial to empirical research. I’ve read two studies to date that happened to include Dr. Steve Sjuggerud and 65 to 70 other forecasters.
Such data adds one more to the many reasons I value his work. I do my best to avoid making financial evaluations on personal emotions.

The recent article analyzed 68 stock forecasters and was dated 5/31/2117. Its title was Evaluation and Ranking of Market Forecasters. The authors Bailey, Borwein, Salehipour & Lopez de Prado, measured the number of forecasts given, their timeframes, specificity, etc.and they found that Dr. Steve Sjuggerud performed very well. He ended up being ranked as #8 out of 68 forecasters. In a similar study in 2012, he scored as #6.

It was interesting to me that the study noted 2/3 of all forecasters have an accuracy score below 50%. One example is Jim Cramer – he’s at 36%. If interested in this study’s findings about accuracy, here are the top ones

The strongest forecasters were
1. John Buckingham @ 79%
2. Jack Schannep @73%
3. David Nassar @72%
4. David Dreman @ 70%
5. Cabot Market Letter @66%
6. Louis Navellier @66%
7. Laslo Birinyi@ 64%
8. Steve Sjuggerud @ 63%

I share the above as a small reminder of the enormous well-conceived and thought-out contributions this web site showers each of us with day after day.
Kudos Stock Gumshoe!

Kudos Adbrpb for giving voice to your actual lived experiences. That was informative and helpful and contributed so much more than some others
who just rant feelings.

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triumf99
June 29, 2019 3:59 pm
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Kudos to you and adbrpb, as well, Ranting is epidemic these days and it’s not by accident. Capitalism and Gov’t have failed, maybe it’s time for us to grow up and take personal responsibility?

BJI
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BJI
June 26, 2019 6:51 pm
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Thanks for your input, adbrpb!
My Q for you:
Do you do ANYTHING BUT read all those newsletters???!!! HOW MUCH sleep DO you get?

Gerard O'Dowd
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Gerard O'Dowd
June 27, 2019 3:47 am
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I affirm adbrpb’s opinion of S&A. Have subscribed to a number of their letters since 2005; but I am not an Alliance member. Generally have a high regard for their investment analysis on particular issues, market perspective, and sincere efforts at financial education in general. Their letters tend to be verbose, but well suited to their intended audience of financial amateurs-such as myself.

Do they have a perfect track record? Of course not. No one does. Have they made some colossal, bone headed recommendations? Arch Coal and Boston Sci come to mind as two examples. But there have been more winners than losers.

Although being a Value Investor has been out of market favor for a long time, Dan Ferris has adhered consistently to his principles. His past recommendations on STZ, BDX, AAPL, and MSFT were right on, provided him well earned renown, and spectacular long term returns to my account. He’s batting average has declined of late; but SBUX was a great call he made about a year ago. The stocks he calls “World Dominators” that increase shareholder returns form the core of my investment account.

Porter Stansberry’s Investment Advisory letter, among many different interests, analyzes and grades P&C Insurance stocks that reveals key investment metrics and business concepts for this essential financial sector. He’s been predicting a market collapse and a Debt Jubilee based on the indebtedness of Federal, corporate and private balance sheets for a number of years. So far it hasn’t happened.

I also have a small position in Sprott, purchased in the first quarter; it’s up about 15% . I don’t think the Sprott stock will have the legs that have characterized Ferris’ other top picks. As Travis has nicely pointed out it is not a “World Dominator”. I don’t have the same regard for Sprott managemant that DF seems to have.

Ferris emphasizes Graham and Dodd/ Buffet and Munger value investing, encapsulated in the 5 financial statement rules he uses to pick a great stock investment, High lighting FCF’s and DCF, and Mastering the Market Cycle a la Howard Marks. His weekly Podcast interview show is both entertaining and educational. The guests he interviews are top asset managers in their own right with personal insights into money management.

David Eifrig’s Income Intelligence and Retirement Millionaire letters are outstanding and were once priced as introductory letters. No longer. Eifrig gets high annual performance report cards year after year provided by the Publisher each Jan. His calls on CME, BX , BXMT, IR, and BA made great total returns. GE and Cedar Fair (FUN) did not. Every gardener has to prune the bushes and pull the weeds.

Have I benefited by being a subscriber and diligent student of S&A investment ideas? Most definitely, yes. The S&A teams of analysts of the newsletters that I read seem to take semi-independent approaches to the market, investigate different market sectors, concepts, or investment categories, and use somewhat different heuristics; but they all talk about the margin of safety before making an investment: Proper Asset allocation, correct position sizing, risk vs reward, diversification, cutting losses, buying a share of stock as if you are buying a piece of business, etc, etc. Annual reports and Quarterly Financials no longer intimidate me. Marketing plays a part and can be annoying but is to be expected.

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R K LAKHOTIA
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R K LAKHOTIA
March 11, 2019 6:41 am

Travis after reading your account, I would say that you are doing a great service to readers. Influenced by his hyperbole marketing, I subscribed to ‘Extreme Value’ in 2015. Bought two stocks PHX and Altius Minerals Corporation as recommended by him. Both stocks are still under water. I should have sold long back, booked the loss and moved on…..
Lesson learnt is to never subscribe to high price investment letters. Information is free and freely available on various Financial websites, Seeking Alpha and FT.
Perusing these details, I have a small positions in FNV, SLV, RGLD and GNR. Positions keep changing in line with emerging news and situations.

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Zeflik
March 13, 2019 4:34 am
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After studying the publicly available information I bought some stocks of B2Gold (BTO) and currently they are trading +17% after 10 months and still has room to grow, however yesterday ER announcement are slightly disappointing in comparison to estimates.

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seussdr13
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seussdr13
July 30, 2019 1:37 am
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Zeflik, Rick Rule invested equity in, and debt funded, B2Gold way back; I held it a couple of years and got out with a little gain; since, it has been flat over 3 years until recently. One negative is the Central American political issue with its mine development/permits – ongoing I believe. You should check it out.

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eightpct
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March 14, 2019 1:35 pm
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RK, I think a lot of people share your experience and I can sympathize with your situation. However, Dan makes it pretty clear he is a value investor (i.e., buy and hold and hold and hold). I’m pretty sure he would have talked you out of the subscription if your timeframe was 2 years or less. In all fairness, he should sell 10-year subscriptions to weed out traders/short term investors from long term investors.

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Ron
Ron
May 10, 2019 10:14 am

I think you may have missed the target. I think he may have Osisko Gold Royalties in mind.

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johnnyb
johnnyb
May 10, 2019 2:23 pm

Travis. Sorry this guy is right it is Osisko. And I am surprised that ADBRPB didn’t say so if he’s an alliance member.

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quincy adams
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quincy adams
May 10, 2019 2:02 pm

Years ago I sold a farm I inherited and bought, among other things, gold (via the GLD etf), which later was sold for a handsome profit. The way things are going now, I’d say it might be better to sell your gold and buy a farm.

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topper
topper
June 27, 2019 6:41 pm
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Dear Mr. President
Gave you a “plus” on your comment. Not because I necessarily agree with you, but because you made me smile.
Thanks!

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triumf99
June 29, 2019 4:17 pm
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It is always better to sell your gold and buy a farm!

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JayBee
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JayBee
May 10, 2019 7:34 pm

I’ve said this before, and I will say it again. Why is it that he honestly believes that this will be a 20-bagger, yet his maximum buy-up-to price is somewhere around $2 per share? That doesn’t sound very confident to me.

Sargam
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Sargam
May 11, 2019 5:01 am

Sprott is a long-time personal friend of Ferris’s boss, Stansberry. To me, that is the only explanation for Ferris having traded in his integrity for a shill’s job. In the last several months Stanberry has turned into a near-boiler room operation, bombarding with e-mails and promo pieces.

GMU1980
May 11, 2019 6:35 am

I don’t know how Porter Stansberry has any credibility since he was convicted of defrauding investors.

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hbharoocha
May 13, 2019 12:41 pm

It’s not SPOXF this time, please re-check with thinkolator. This time it is likely OR. OR has jumped since Ferris started re-sending US mail and emails in his latest push.

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tsamiami
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tsamiami
June 24, 2019 6:17 pm

Rickards: June 24, 2019 “Time To Take 54% Gains On Your Remaining Sprott Inc. Shares” (OTCBB: SPOXF)

patches
patches
June 26, 2019 11:21 am

Just got an email tease from Ferris. It looks like he is still pushing Sprott, but saying they now have a link to Crypto which would make it go through the roof. Anyone know what he is talking about?
“In short, my No. 1 favorite company of all time – an ordinary-looking, ultra low-risk gold business – also owns a stake in the world’s first fully redeemable, gold-backed crypto. Two of the top five gold miners in the world are already signed on as partners…”

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George C.
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June 26, 2019 12:12 pm

THE TECHNICALS. Today, June 26, 2019, here are some key technical measures for SPOXF. RSI of 81.86. MACD of +0.067. CHK (Chalkin Money Flow) of -0.014. Is the price of SPOXF a bit rich today and ready to settle back a bit, or, for the longer term, do you just buy a position in three or four trades over the next month or so. Comparable ETFs you might look at are GDX, GDXJ and NUGT. All comments would be appreciated very much.

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ggswift
June 26, 2019 12:45 pm

I had subscribed to a Ferris Service back in the day , but cancelled shortly thereafter as his picks were going nowhere fast!
Gold appears to be controlled by the powers that be , and I really see no sharp rise unless the whole stock market collapses!

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JBruman
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JBruman
June 27, 2019 9:43 am
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Or the dollar does …

ggswift
June 26, 2019 12:57 pm

Although both stocks can be described as precarious at best “Today” , I am a gambler and bought 50K of each IIPR and GTBC on 6/24/19 and I am currently up 6.76% or$ 6,757 . Caution these stocks are not for the feint of heart!

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catherine
catherine
June 27, 2019 10:38 pm
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ggswift, it’s good to hear your recent stock purchase is doing well, and many / all of us are happy for you.
When I joined the Gumshoe community there was a section you could read on customs & procedures of the community. As a small investor, one I’ve always liked was commenters didn’t state actual numbers of shares, or $$ invested, but said things like “overweight” or “full position”. The idea still appeals to me, but I’m always happy to hear of stocks going up.

JBruman
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JBruman
June 26, 2019 4:59 pm

Just a quick question that I wonder if any of you are considering. Given the debt we have with the dollar that is printed anytime they want does anyone consider a redo on the dollar that gold will most likely see a role in (i.e. backing currency)? I know it sounds crazy but our current direction is non-sustainable in the long run. And if so … what is the best play with gold?

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widmumble
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widmumble
June 27, 2019 11:33 am

After reading all of the comments, what if one of the Sprott, Inc. investments besides the ETFs, is a functioning fee-based or “royalty” collector of precious metals. Eric Sprott is an owner of Goldmoney, Inc. (TSX.XAU, XAUMF). Goldmoney runs off of patented private blockchain technology and has an operational “return on metal weight” business model. They have turned a profit and have no debt. Trades under $2.00 in US.

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SageNot
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SageNot
June 27, 2019 2:54 pm

In my long, long Wall St. career, the summer months seem positive for gold most years. This year is no exception, but it’s always followed with gold selling off almost every year. Will this year be different, where’s that coin with heads on both sides???

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shoora
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shoora
June 29, 2019 1:12 pm

your the man

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