This tease caught my eye, mostly because I was genuinely curious — Ian Wyatt is promoting a “webinar” he’s going to host on May 10 that will talk up a way to play the “new bull market” in oil, and part of it, at least, is going to be about a “unconventional IPO.”
So I wanted to know what he’s talking about. And, of course, I want to share my thoughts with all my dear friends here at Stock Gumshoe. Let’s dig in, shall we?
There’s not a lot of info, but here’s a taste of the email:
“… crude oil is surging 51% in the last year.
“Now’s the time to invest.
“That’s why one top venture capital firm just invested $300 million.
“They’ve already made a killing with early investments in Airbnb and Uber. But instead of sinking more cash into private tech companies…
“They’re backing a retired Fortune 500 CEO.”
And then we get a few more tidbits on the signup form for this webinar — a webinar that, I assume, will be similar to his past webinars in that he talks up the opportunity but reserves the actual information about the investment for his paid subscribers.
Which is fine — I have no problem with folks selling information or research, but I’d rather not sit through an hour-long sales pitch… and if it’s something I can learn on my own, I know I’ll have a better chance of thinking rationally if I take my time and research several sources first. If I pay for the idea or listen to talk about crazy return potential, odds are pretty good that I’ll be overwhelmed with profit lust and will have trouble thinking clearly.
Or that’s the idea, anyway, and the core reason why I started doing what I do here at Stock Gumshoe, revealing these “secret” stocks and trying to add some perspective here and there — the more you can think for yourself and poke a few holes in the hype, the better the chance you have of thinking rationally. Most of us will still do dumb stuff most of the time, I guess, but it’s nice to at least improve the odds a little.
Ready? OK, here are the other clues from the signup page:
“Former Fortune 500 CEO emerges from retirement to launch a new oil stock IPO!
“… one company acquired 360,000 acres in the Texas oil belt
“Why this new company could earn $250 million in cash profits – starting THIS YEAR
“How to claim your shares NOW – before this unconventional IPO”
And that’s pretty much it, at least until we get to the actual webinar at lunchtime on Thursday. So what’s the stock they’re hinting at?
I suspect this is a recent SPAC deal, and our Mighty, Mighty Thinkolator concurs: This is almost certainly the soon-to-be Magnoia Oil & Gas.
Which doesn’t exist yet, but is expected to soon — and it will have a new ticker, but for right now the “unusual IPO” means that you can buy into the SPAC if you wish, and will own shares of Magnolia once the transaction happens to create it.
What does that all mean? A SPAC is a Special Purpose Acquisition Vehicle, also often called a “blank check” company. These are pools of money that are raised in the public markets via an IPO, usually connected to an established investor or an industry bigwig who has some “brand value,” and they take those IPO proceeds and try to buy a company or merge into a company. For the target company, this has the advantage of bringing that big bolus of cash and sometimes a stronger management team or higher visibility, and usually the big advantage is that the target company can go public without itself having to go through the sometimes onerous IPO process… since the SPAC already trades publicly, it just changes its name and ticker and voila! The new combined company is publicly traded.
In this case, the SPAC was sponsored by TPG, the huge venture capital/private equity company, and headed by Stephen Chazen, who retired as CEO of Occidental Petroleum (OXY) in 2016. They called it TPG Pace Energy Holdings (TPGE), and it went public almost exactly a year ago.
The plan was to search for a target business in the energy business… from their website, “The strategy of TPG Pace Energy Holdings is to identify and acquire businesses that are better suited to generate strong returns in a public market environment while benefitting from the operational expertise of TPG and Mr. Chazen.”
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And that’s what they’ve done in agreeing, on March 20, to buy the South Texas oil and gas assets of the giant Houston private equity firm EnerVest. EnerVest was reportedly in serious trouble a year ago, with oil prices down sharply, so this way they sell off a share of some of their best assets to a strong and experienced operator, maintain 51% ownership, and also get a lot of cash that should make their investors much happier (and perhaps generate some fees from a portfolio that was probably pretty disastrous for a few years following the 2014 oil crash).
When it goes public, according to the Magnolia investor presentation, EnerVest will own 51% of the new company, the sponsor (TPG) will own 7%, and public investors, both the SPAC shareholders and the folks who added more capital in a private fundraising round in conjunction with the merger, including the new CEO, will own 43%.
They’re also raising some debt in a senior note offering, but not very much, so the numbers actually look fairly appealing — they will be much less debt-burdened than many oil companies, and they are expected, at least they themselves so believe, to generate a lot of free cash flow and to be valued, on an EV/EBITDA basis, among the cheapest South Texas oil companies.
The stock actually looks pretty interesting at this valuation — I did go through the investor presentation, though I didn’t dig much deeper than that, and the financial metrics look really impressive, and if Steve Chazen is able to have anything like the kind of success he had at Occidental there’s a chance that he could build the company into something far more substantial, presumably by adding to their Eagle Ford and Austin Chalk properties. Of course, Steve Chazen does not have a magic wand to control the oil price, and Occidental under his leadership did fall plenty fast in 2014 and 2015 when oil fell, dropping 30% or so.
If oil stays at $58/barrel and the other forecast assumptions are accurate, (which I have no outside expertise in assessing), then Magnolia thinks they’ll be earning $200 million in EBITDA after Capex (almost $550 million before Capex, but you can’t capex or you stop producing oil). That’s $184 million in free cash flow, and that means they could potentially have paid off their net debt (the current $300 million debt offering) by the end of 2019. That’s a little lower than the cash flow yield for 2018, mostly because capex will be higher, but it’s still a pretty solid cash return… and I would guess that they would bump up the capex and try to grow production more, with additional drilling, given the relatively high oil price and their lack of leverage.
So that seems pretty interesting, particularly since I don’t really have any oil exposure right now. That’s not enough to make me commit a meaningful amount of cash to this after spending just an hour or two browsing through the presentation, but it’s enough to get me intrigued. If you want a little more background, there was a quick Bloomberg story here that sums it up and has some quotes from Chazen about his (conservative) strategy.
The story is a little bit reminiscent, at least for me, of the last big oil CEO who came back to start a new company — Mark Papa from EOG Resources, who formed Centennial Resource Development using a SPAC called Silver Run Acquisition about two years ago. That one was a little more richly valued on the basic EV/EBITDA numbers, but oil prices were also quite a bit lower then — and the stock has certainly done well, going from about $10 to $19 in a couple years.
And those of you who’ve been reading my work for a long time probably know what my next thought was — “if this was a SPAC, there are warrants… right?”
And yes, there are warrants — almost every SPAC comes with warrants attached, and after a few months those warrants typically begin trading separate from the equity (the initial ticker at the IPO was TPGE.U for the combined units, they have now split into TPGE and TPGE.WS — each unit included one third of a warrant). That warrant piece is where a lot of the juice comes from for the sponsors of the SPAC, and the extra sweetener to get public investors to invest in something that doesn’t really exist yet… warrants provide substantial leverage if the eventual business combination ends up being a great investment.
The odds of that are fairly long, it must be said — most SPACs disappoint, partly because the SPAC backers are under pressure to make a deal, any deal, within their two-year window before they have to return the cash to shareholders. But sometimes they work out… and outside of SPACs, it’s very rare to get long-term warrants on businesses that aren’t in hyper-risk areas like biotech or junior mining. That’s why they appeal to me, because long-term warrants are typically not given a lot of value by mainstream investors — when you’re focused on the next six months, you forget how valuable it can be to get five YEARS of upside exposure in a strong company with a small cash outlay.
So yes, TPG has warrants, with the ticker TPGE.WS (sometimes the ticker symbols of warrants differ, could be TPGE-WT or TPGEWS on some platforms). Those will become warrants on the shares of Magnolia and will, like TPGE, get a new ticker symbol when the deal is done, probably in a month or so. And those warrants give you the right to purchase shares of the stock (TPGE) for $11.50 for five years.
Normally that would be a no-brainer for me — I’d speculate a little with the leverage of the five-year warrant for an oil producer that looks pretty solid and doesn’t have massive capital costs, particularly because of the recent strength in oil prices (the estimates in the presentation look like they are for oil prices that were meaningfully lower, at $58, when the deal was being built over the winter).
It looks like there’s a little catch, though — the public warrants, unlike the private warrants given to the sponsors as part of the SPAC IPO, have a redemption price… so they can force you to redeem the warrants when TPGE shares (or whatever the new ticker is) hit $18.
Coincidentally enough, that’s the same deal that CDEV warrant holders had, and that stock surged higher quickly so the redemption was called by the company — in this case, they offered a cashless redemption and essentially turned each tendered warrant into 0.376 shares of stock, since that was the average value of the warrants with the shares at a bit above $18.
So if something similar might happen with TPGE, how does that impact the price and valuation assessment of the warrants? In the case of CDEV, it worked out pretty well — if you bought a warrant for about $2 around the time the deal was announced, the stock was over $18 before a year was out and the redemption means your $2 warrant turned into almost $7 worth of CDEV stock, and it so happens that CDEV didn’t go up all that dramatically in the time since that redemption came in January, 2017, but, well, that partial share is still worth close to $7. The stock rose by 90%, the warrant returned about 250%, and from January 2017 on they’re all CDEV shareholders, so there’s no further leverage for folks who started out as warrantholders.
Right now, TPGE trades at about $10.34. Investors are pretty happy with the Magnolia deal, it was trading at about $9.70 before the deal was announced (SPACs represent $10 of cash, give or take a few cents, and can usually be redeemed for very close to $10 in cash if shareholders decide they want to opt out of whatever the “business combination” is — so they typically trade right around $10, usually a few percent below, until a deal is announced). The warrants were trading at about $1.50 or so before the deal was announced, as is also fairly typical for a SPAC that investors have a decent amount of confidence in, but bumped up immediately to almost $2 when the deal was announced and last traded at about $2.15.
Warrants give you the right to buy the shares for $11.50 for five years after the business combination is consummated, so you’re effectively betting that the shares will be over $13.65 by the spring of 2023. The $18 redemption, however, like with CDEV before them, means that the value of the warrants is capped at $6.50 — which is fine if the stock surges to $20 in the next year and you get that huge leveraged return quickly, but frustrating if you were hoping for more leverage than that.
So how does the value work? The “Capital at risk” assessment you start with is important. Say you have $5,000 to invest in TPGE, and you’re willing to put 40% of it at real “I might lose 100%” risk — a loose stop-loss order in case oil crashes again or the company screws up. Everyone uses different position sizing to plan for what might happen if things go south, more typically folks would use a stop loss of 20-25% and say they’d sell the shares if they fell below $7.50 or so, as that might indicate it’s “broken” or that you were just wrong… but let’s say you’re willing to give it more leeway and risk up to 40%.
That means you’re putting $2,000 at “real” risk, assuming that it’s a decent operating company and not a fraud, and that oil won’t drop to $20 again and the stock won’t collapse to zero overnight — despite being newly public, this is a pretty large and established company, and chances are pretty good that you’d be able to get out of it with a stop loss order if the shares fall in a somewhat normal way.
So if you’re buying warrants instead of equity, the fairer comparison is to say that you’d risk $2,000 on the warrants, since those currently have an actual liquidation value of zero as long as the stock is below $11.50. You’re willing to lose $2,000, then that’s all you put into the warrants, and you put the other $3,000 into something safer — maybe cash, maybe an index fund if you don’t feel the need to hold cash, whatever.
So if you put $2,000 into the warrants today, we’ll be generous and assume you can get them for $2 — you get 1,000 warrants.
Or you put $5,000 into the shares, we’ll be similarly generous and assume you can get them near $10 and buy 500 shares.
What happens in the future? Say, three years from now — we’ll assume that the stock is at $14. Your 500 shares are worth $7,000, and you’ve made a nice 40% return. Maybe a little more, if they start paying a dividend (Chazen’s record at building a nice dividend growth company at Occidental was part of the presentation, though they didn’t actually promise that Magnolia will eventually pay a dividend).
The warrants, alternatively, would have an exercise value of $2.50 each (buy at $11.50, sell at $14 = $2.50). They’ll probably also carry a premium over that to account for the fact that they still have two years before expiration, but unless the stock is really surging the premium is often not huge at that point — I’d guess they’d trade not a lot over $3 then. That would turn your $2,000 into perhaps $3,000, and you had another $3,000 that you invested in something else, so that’s a total of $6,000 if you just put your additional $3,000 into cash. You would have been better off in the stock, if you were honest with yourself about how much risk you were willing to take.
How about if the stock really does surge, and it doubles in three years to $20? Then the shares double, that’s easy math and you make $5,000 on your $5,000 investment for a 100% return, plus, perhaps, some dividends, and you’ve got $10,000.
In the warrants, though, you would have been stopped by the redemption clause along the way and been forced to convert to equity or sell at $18 — your $2,000 investment in the warrants would have turned into $6,500. That’s pretty awesome, a 200%+ return in a few years… you don’t get those very often. Add back the $3,000 you had sitting aside in something less risky, since, remember, you were only willing to risk 40% of your investment, and you end up with…. $9,500. Or if you did the cashless exercise, assuming a similar number to what CDEV offered, you end up with roughly a third of a share for each warrant, and you could just let those ride instead of selling them (you’d have to be active and paying attention, though — warrants can become worthless if you ignore a redemption notice, or forget the expiration date and don’t do anything, particularly if your broker happens to not notice for some reason and doesn’t hound you about it, as discount brokers often will not).
Converting the warrants at $18 would let you enjoy that two dollar move from $18 to $20, assuming it happens and you have about 2/3 as many shares as you would have had if you had just committed $5,000 to the stock in the first place… but you do get enough pop from that to make up for the extra $500, and your account value probably still sits right around $10,000… actually, $10,200 as I mock it up on the back of envelope.
And, of course, if the stock is at $11 or below in three years, your warrants will likely have dropped by 60%, at least… and if they are below $11.50 in five years and you’re still holding, they go to zero. That’s a very real risk of a 100% loss if this recent happiness in the oil market turns to sadness again for several years, or if the company itself has bad news.
At the other end of the spectrum of possibilities, unfortunately, because of that redemption clause, warrant holders don’t get to daydream about what would happen if this turns out to be a hugely successful oil company, or oil jumps to $150 and the shares surge to $30 in a few years — you’re capped at $6.50 per warrant. That’s fine in the probability world, and probably works OK in most of the models that the Wall Street folks will use, which is why warrants are often relatively underpriced in my mind… but that’s because unlike the computer models, I think there’s real value in the long tail of possible but unlikely outcomes for warrant speculations, the chance that TPGE might get to $30 or $40 within five years and turn that $2 warrant into $25. But there’s no shot at that here, which means I’d want to pay a little less for the warrant.
So what does that mean?
It really just means that warrants are leverage — if you invest as much in warrants as you would in equity, you’re taking a much larger risk to get a much larger return. If you put the full $5,000 you have available into the warrants and the stock gets to that redemption price of $18 right around expiration in five years, the maximum possible return is just over 200%, your speculation would turn into $16,250 while an investment of $5,000 in the stock itself would turn into $9,000.
If the stock goes to $40 somehow on an oil surge, and you convert into shares at the $18 redemption and let them ride, a $2,000 investment turns into $14,440 — still a levered return of 600%+, and if that other $3,000 you held aside returns 10% a year it’ll be $4,400 in five years, so add that on and you’ve got $18,840.
$5,000 invested in the equity, on the other hand, turns into $20,000 if you go to $40, for a simple 300% gain. But since you invested more, because the risk of a 100% loss was not as meaningful, you still end up with more. Obviously, whatever you end up doing with that “less risky” money that doesn’t go into the warrant has a lot to do with those comparative returns.
That’s what makes warrant investing exciting and sexy, but it’s important to realize that you probably really can limit your losses in the underlying stock, at least 99% of the time, and you have a much lower possibility of limiting your losses in the warrants if the stock does poorly.
That’s just a little screed on warrant speculating — If I decide to buy into this Magnolia story, my initial impulse would have been to take on a small speculative position in the warrants if it weren’t for that redemption clause, but as I mull it over and try to be somewhat conservative, I’d also think more seriously about the actual equity, or some blended exposure (if that sounds appealing, the original units still trade, too, at TPGE/U or TPGE.U, each of those consists of one share of TPGE with a third of a warrant attached).
I haven’t invested in this one either way, but if you think oil prices are going to stay relatively high, the numbers in their investor presentation do look pretty compelling — that is, of course, the job of an investor presentation, to be compelling, but the combination of good cash flow at $58 oil and a low debt level means that the company could pretty quickly lever up to grow, and that tends to be good for equity returns.
So I don’t know the company well, but I’m intrigued — if oil stays strong it could do very well, and they do have a solid base expectation that’s below the current oil price, and an experienced CEO who has rewarded shareholders in past oil bull markets.
That’s just my quick take, though — it’s your money, so what do you think? Have other ideas? Leery of these retired oil CEOs who are coming back to try to build another company? Think the forecasts are too conservative or too aggressive? If you’ve some wisdom to add, we’d love to hear it — just use the friendly little comment box below. Thanks for reading!
Thanks Travis for another excellent review. It does sound like an interesting concept.
BTW, have you heard anything about IPOU? Any good deals on the horizon?
Have not heard anything, though I am curious to see what they end up doing. They have only been out for eight months or so, so they have another 16 months or so to propose a deal or liquidate.
Magnolia is the old 50’s name that became Secony Mobil and merged with Exxon to become ExxonMobil USA. They are bringing back a lot of those old 50s names….
Humble Oil Company became Exxon.
They are all going crazy drilling the stacked shale plays of west Texas…..THAT’s what they term ‘Unconventional’ Oil and Gas Exploration/Production.
They drill horizontal cluster wells ….sometimes as many as 8 wells in close proximity on the same pad and divert them horizontally in all directions from that
point to cover the maximum production zones with the fewest wells.
But, Travis, beware the end of September, beginning of October when Israel suddenly preemptively attacks Iran’s nuclear weapons and ICBM development
projects. ALL of Islam will band together to attack Israel from all sides, and the
US/UK will come to the defense of Israel…..destroying Islam/ISIS with NEUTRON
nuclear weapons that kill people but leave buildings and equipment intact.
The worldwide markets will collapse in October as a result.
ol’ Lawrence in west Texas
Wow, just wow.
That’s a pretty big prediction…
Take those meds, ridiculous comment.
No that is just biblical messianic bs, Israel is a tiny country and have no borders with Iran. Israel is just no match for Iran and they know it very well. Just look at the geography how big Iran is, bigger then Germany, France and Uk together. It is all
a show just for the usa empire to control the huge oil and gas reserves of Iran. Mayby you forgot Iraq and Lybia. In addition it is about the petro dollar too of course.
pieter132, ever heard of the 1967 “6 day war” or the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. I am not saying I agree with westtexaslawrence but the arab countries are actually no match for Israel.
You need to put your tin foil hat back on, your being controlled by aliens.
Wouldn’t that actually be good for a domestic oil company? $400 oil would not be out of the question.
Travis, the upstream producing MLP of EnerVest, EVEP (EV Energy Partners) filed for Chapter 11 on April 2, a couple of weeks after the TPGE announcement. It’s not clear to me what effect this is going to have on the deal or the fiscal responsibility the new entity will have in the restructuring effort. The press release said only that that EnerVest will continue to provide “restructuring support and services” to the MLP through the bankruptcy proceedings, Obviously, Magnolia is going to need the oil & gas production from the MLP to be worth anything, so it looks to me like a bit of a tangled web. Can you shed any light on this?
Haven’t looked at it, but presumably those are different assets if they agreed on the deal on March 20. EnerVesr owns a lot of assets that aren’t part of this deal, many of which are probably under water.
Yes, they likely are underwater. They have engaged in land sales and swaps in an effort to keep creditors at bay, according to one web article I read (Houston Business Journal, July 2017). It’s still not clear what Magnolia is going to wind up with in the way of profitable producing assets. The deal looks to me like a huge get-out-debt-free card for EnerVest.
EnerVest has talked about liquidating a lot of stuff, they definitely went bonkers near the top and are getting bailed out to some degree by recovering oil prices of late.
Keep in mind that Enervest is an asset manager that sponsors many entities that are separate, in terms of corporate law, completely distinct from one another. Reading the various articles in the press and the SEC filings around TPG Pace shows that this transaction is with Enervest Fund XIV (read, for example, the draft proxy statement filed earlier this month, https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1698990/000119312518159251/d730769dprem14a.htm , while the entities that have experienced significant problems are the MLP (https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/EnerVest-business-filing-for-bankruptcy-to-12755380.php) and Enervest Funds XII and XIII (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/EnverVest-s-2-billion-energy-fund-worthless-as-11295264.php?utm_campaign=chron&utm_source=article&utm_medium=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fbusiness%2Fenergy%2Farticle%2FEnerVest-business-filing-for-bankruptcy-to-12755380.php).
Great read Travis!! awesome look at spac’s ,very intriguing to say the least.
Will follow closely and WILL get in when appropriate time comes….yesterday, too logical for ALL of those stated options to fail miserably w/oil on the up. Greatness on warrants explanations….super gambling huh?logical gambling tho.
many thanx
Please forgive my slowness but just making sure I understand. If I want to get the equity on this, I buy shares of TPGE now, and eventually the deal goes through and my TPGE shares become Magnolia shares. Is that correct?
Yes. Assuming that the deal does actually go through
Please excuse my impertinence or perhaps I’m just demonstrating my lack of experience, knowledge, basic understanding of economics and finance as well as coming off like a bit of a jerk but when you listed the three way ownership you mention a parent, spac and a third owning 51 percent, 43 percent and 7 percent respectively. That’s 101 percent. hmmmmm
Just rounding.
Good Morning, I’m a little confused, looking up $TPGE I see the warrants which are listed as $TPGE+ expire on 05/10/2019. In the conversion will these warrants convert into a 5 year expiration ?
Don’t see that in my systems, but here’s the language from the S-1:
The business combination likely won’t be complete for another month or so, so from my understanding that’s when the clock should start ticking for that five-year period. The 5/10/2019 date doesn’t make much sense for anything, that’s neither 30 days after the business combination nor a year after the IPO.
This is on TD Ameritrade “TPG Pace Energy Holdings Corp *W EXP 05/10/2019 NYSE: TPGE+”
The most likely answer is that TD has something wrong in its data, I suppose, but, as always, it’s wise to check the details for yourself. The prospectus under which TPGE (including the warrants) went public is available on the SEC website here.
The NYSE website lists the warrants using several different notations — TPGE+, TPGE.WS, and TPGE/W. Fidelity, the only broker I checked, lists it as TPGE/WS… there’s no one standard, but there is only one outstanding warrant that’s publicly traded (as opposed to the sponsor warrants, which are better but not available to the public), so they should all be the same.
Thank You 🙂
TDAmeritrade has the 2019 warrants listed as TPGE+ and the 2022 warrants as TPGH+
TPGH is a different entity entirely — that’s another SPAC sponsored by TPG, but with no connection to Chazen.
TPG has sponsored three SPACs in recent years — Pace Holdings merged with Playa Resorts to take that public a little over a year ago, TPG Pace Energy has announced this deal to merge with some EnerVest holdings and create Magnolia Oil & Gas, and TPG Holdings (TPGH) has not yet announced a deal so is still just a pending “blank check”.
how many warrants to buy one share?
I warrant for I share
Yes, one warrant per share — but only one third of one warrant is attached to each of the original SPAC units. So TPGE.U (or whatever your broker calls it) is one share of TPGE plus one third of one warrant. But TPGE.WS (or similar ticker) is a full warrant for a single share.
Thanks Travis again a great heads up with the new embargos on Iranian oil, I like this investment so I’m in at 10.2818 and 2.11 small investment only. If any of you are into very high risk pinks $APHQF has been moving nicely the last week (marijuana stock)
Martin, I can’t find the marijuana stock, $APHQF on ETrade?? Does it have a different symbol?
David, That is the right symbol the company is called Aphria Inc. it is a Canadian company listed on the Nasdaq Pink. Your broker may not allow you to buy pink sheet stocks. It is also listed on the TSX as $APH
Educational, the part about what SPAC means. Southeastern Ohio, where I live, is currently being ravaged by Texas and Oklahoma oil companies drilling fracking wells. Horrible industrial polluting wells that require massive amounts of water, which then becomes brine, and it funneled down any old hole in the ground they can find. I’ll pass on this one.
Is this the same guy that was promoting CYOU lately? And how did that one work out?
A bit early to tell, down from about $30 to $29 so far, dividend adjusted. The hope is that stocks like this recover a portion of the dividend payout in the few months after the special div is paid — whether or not it happens this time, we don’t know yet.
Travis, just a great big thank you for coverage of IQ, sold half of my Sept 15 call for a nice 53.2% gain, Still holding IQ shares
Glad to hear it, Martin — wish I had held the options longer as well, though do still hold my shares.
Hi! So, I have to buy TPGE? There are other similar tickers.
And then I will have same amount of Magnolia?
Is there a conversion cost or discount?
Just want to know if this is safe to buy now
Thank you!
“Safe” isn’t the word I’d use. The deal has not been finalized or closed, but the plan is for TPGE to be the public equity component, and it will change to the Magnolia name and get a new ticker.
1 to 1 shares?
The merger is with a non-public entity, so there is on change to the share structure — other than that they have sold extra shares to raise more capital than was in the SPAC. TPGE public shareholders will not own the whole entity in the end, but the shares are the shares and won’t be split or adjusted in that way.
TRAVIS IS ALWAYS SPOT ON AND EXPLAINS WELL EVEN FOR THE SLOW HANDS NO PUN INTENDED! UNLESS YOUR FLUSH WITH CASH AND NEED A HOLE TO FILL THIS WOULD BE A FAIR SHOT BUT WITH THE POLITICAL TIDE FLOWING EVER SO CHOPPY I MYSELF BELIEVE THERE IS SOME FINE SAFE PLAYS BECAUSE TRUMP HAS TURNED THE DOMESTIC PRODUCERS INTO LETS SAY STAY HOME PATRIOTIC WORK WHERE THEY DON’T BURN OUR FLAG ETC. THE FIELD SERVICES LIKE THE MDR ,FLOUR, BAKER HUGHES, PLUS OIL INFRASTRUCTURE MLP I MYSELF ALWAYS BEEN ENTERPRISE BUT SEVERAL GOOD ONES TO CHOOSE AND OF COARSE THE XOM’s AND FANG’s ALONG WITH SEVERAL SMALL PRODUCERS WHO HAVE BEEN REALLY GETTING READY FOR THIS FOR SOME TIME IN THE UP TO $10 SHARE OASIS ETC. WITH THE ONE BIG THING IT IS TAKEN OUT OF GROUND HERE TRANSPORTED MADE READY AND USED HERE. TURN KEY WHICH IS WHAT MAJOR SERVICE COMPANIES WILL BE DOING SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SHUT-DOWN MAINTENANCE WORK AND WE DON’T NEED THE MILITARY TO GUARD THEM. EVEN THE GREEN PEACE WILL HAVE BETTER CONTROL WHICH WON’T BE AS COSTLY BECAUSE WE ARE GREAT AT BEING CLEAN AND SAFE EXCEPT WHEN WARREN BUFFETS TANKER TRAIN FALLS OFF THE TRACKS BUT TRUMP HAS GOTTEN KEYSTONE AND MORE TO REALLY MAKE IT A TURN KEY $$$ DEAL. DON’T BE CONFUSED ALL THE GREEN ENERGY IS COMING WHICH IS COOL BUT OIL IS NO WHERE NEAR IT’S END PROBABLY JUST REALLY GETTING FINE TUNED FOR YOUR POCKET$$$$
Hi Cath’…. maybe lighten up on the caps a bit ?
You do know all caps considered talking loud is just a mental thing right? Lighten up.
TPGE is also a recommendation of Chris DeHamer’s Crisis & Oppurtunity
Thanks jjmurph, interesting to know. Many newsletters are really focused on “bet the jockey” strategies in natural resources, so it’s not surprising that Chazen has their attention (or that Mark Papa probably got the attention of some with CDEV as well)
The best o&g play that i found is Texas Pacific Land Trust (TPL). It is the old Texas Pacific Railroad that went bankrupt but was allowed to hold it’s land. Now in the heart of the Permian making a lot of royalty money. Any thoughts.
Here are the financials on $TPGE
Magnolia Assets First Quarter 2018 Highlights(1) :
— Operating revenue of $193.3 million
— Pro forma EBITDA(2) of $152.2 million
— Free cash flow(3) of $66.3 million
— Average daily net production of 45.7 Mboe/d (62% oil, 78% liquids)
TPGE Chairman and CEO, Steve Chazen, commented: “These strong results were above our expectations for production and realized prices in the first quarter of 2018 and confirm that the Magnolia Assets are an excellent match with our desire to build a large scale company that can generate steady production growth, strong pre-tax margins and significant free cash flow. We are pleased with the outcome of the production and capital program and look forward to future quarters.”
Hello Travis. You have any thoughts on the ticker symbol for the TPGE Warrants on Yahoo Finance ? I’ve tried to find it but coming up with nothing . Anyone ? Thanks all.
Their format would typically be TPGE-WT, but they might not have it yet. Quote coverage for warrants is pretty spotty.