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“New Gas Molecule That Burns Hotter than the Sun” — Dr. Kent Moors says “there’s never been a moneymaking situation quite like this in the entire history of energy!”

This is teased as having potential for 146,000% profits "on the low end" and the "Biggest Investment Payday of Your Life." Seriously?

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, December 9, 2015

I haven’t rushed in to cover this teaser pitch over the past few days, partly because I’ve already written about so many of the overhyped Money Map Press ads recently and partly because Gumshoe readers have already discussed it a little bit (and identified the stock) …

… but a lot of you have been asking me about it, so I thought I better give it a look-see.

The ad is for Micro Energy Trader from Dr. Kent Moors, which would run you $3,500 if you subscribed — he’s got several newsletters, this is one of the “upgrade” one that they try to funnel folks up to in their marketing (Energy Advantage is about $200, Energy Inner Circle is $4,000).

We last wrote about him a few weeks ago when he was pitching Energy Advantage using that solar “free energy forever” teaser (here and here) — this time he’s talking about combustion (“hotter than the sun” instead of solar power).

So what’s the big idea?

Well, the spiel sounds like lots of his (and other) ads — a tiny company, a miraculous invention, perfect timing. Oh, if only claims like these were always (or even often) true. We’d all be rich.

This is the opening:

“This Tiny $50mm Company Has Invented…

“A New Gas Molecule That Burns Hotter than the Sun”

And Dr. Moors says that “I’ve been tracking this Radical Invention for 17 years… and the time is NOW.”

So what is it? More from the email I got about this ad:

“Their technology produces a unique new hydrogen-based gas molecule…

“A hyper-flammable molecule that literally didn’t exist before this company created it.

“It quickly produces large quantities of a gas that burns hotter than any other gas known to man – up to 10,500° Fahrenheit.

“That’s more than five times as hot as molten lava…

“And it’s actually hotter than the surface of the sun!”

And here’s the big picture from Dr. Moors that reinforces that timing, market size and “immediacy” argument:

“In fact, there’s never been a moneymaking situation quite like this in the entire history of energy!

“It’s nothing less than a game-changing breakthrough that’ll completely transform the $1 trillion-a-year global coal sector in very short order…

“And it’ll start by immediately bringing America’s coal-fired electricity industry back

“The key to this opportunity is a radical invention I’ve been tracking ever since the first rumors of it began to swirl in scientific circles back in 1998.

“Throughout this period, I’ve kept very close tabs on this invention – and the American micro-cap company that developed it.

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“Everything from their original idea, their string of patent applications, their prototyping, refinement, and testing…

“And mere weeks from now, we could finally see this world-changing invention take the global marketplace by storm.”

So what’s this “radical invention” that he’s hinting at as he tries to get us to sign up for his Micro Energy Trader? Here’s how he sums it up:

“… it uses liquid or semi-liquid waste from just about ANY source…

“Including used motor oil and industrial fluids, antifreeze, paint thinner, human sewage, manure and poultry litter, contaminated water, and more…

“To quickly produce large quantities of a gas that burns hotter than any other gas known to man – up to 10,500° Fahrenheit”

And the silly “secret” stuff:

“Of course, the invention I’m talking about has an official name. So does the gas it produces…

“However, I can’t reveal those names in a public forum like this without tipping off every hedge fund on Wall Street to this tiny $1-per-share company….

“for ‘camouflage’ purposes…

“In this presentation, I’m going to refer to this invention as the ‘H-Arc Generator.’

“And I’m going to call the clean, ultra-hot-burning gas it produces ‘plasmalene.'”

This is really why Stock Gumshoe started — many, many years ago, I got sick of these “secrets” and “camouflage” names and started researching them. So I guess it’s good that they still do this, it gives me a reason to jump into work each morning with renewed vigor — even if 90% of the “secrets” we uncover aren’t actually that interesting once you find out the reality, at least we’ll hopefully help some folks avoid making expensive mistakes. Subscribing to newsletters isn’t always a mistake, of course, we can learn a lot from plenty of them… but putting real capital at risk in some microcap idea because you believe the wild promises of the hype-filled ad is very often going to lead to disappointment (or worse).

The argument he puts forth, though it’s very long and I won’t go into the whole thing here, is that the government is regulating coal and requiring lower emissions, and that they don’t want to do away with coal entirely because of jobs and low cost and because the other baseload option, natural gas, is easier to export (I don’t know if that’s true or not — coal is heavy, so it is expensive to ship… but LNG will still be pretty expensive to ship as well, even when US LNG exports reach critical mass in five or ten years). Here’s some more from the ad:

“… everyone in Washington – Republican or Democrat – wants the same thing for Christmas this year…

“A technological miracle that’ll instantly make America’s vast reserves of dirt-cheap coal 30% less carbon-emissive.
And as I’m going to show you, the H-Arc Generator is that miracle….

“… the catch is that everybody is going to know this by January 2016, just a few short weeks from now.

“If you’re holding shares of this company, that’s when I’m predicting you could see an immediate pop of up to 542%.”

So you can see why folks are asking about this one, right? He says that 146,000% profits are his “low end” expectation, and that he thinks there could be an “immediate pop” of 542% next month when “everybody” will know about this.

He says this will happen because the company and it’s “H-Arc Generator” will make it possible to move toward “coal co-combustion” globally… here’s how he explains it:

“Instead of simply diluting the CO2 and other pollutants from coal combustion with slightly less carbon-dense exhaust…

“Plasmalene’s 10,500-degree flame temperature almost completely consumes the carbon (also sulphur and nitrogen) in the coal base fuel.

“In simplest terms, the more ultra-hot combustion of plasmalene gas actually turns the pollutants themselves into a sort of ‘secondary fuel.’….

“The proof of this is now a matter of record. Not only is the testing showing a 30-40% reduction in CO2 from plasmalene co-combustion…

“But they’re already seeing up to a 90% decrease in nitrous oxide and carbon monoxide…

“Plus virtually no residual particulate matter (like soot, etc.).

“Now as I said before, this information is NOT highly publicized….”

So yes, as several Gumshoe readers have jumped in to note, this must be a little company called MagneGas (MNGA). They went public seven or eight years ago, they’ve never generated any meaningful revenue… though they have, at least, grown revenue a bit faster than operating expenses in the last few years.

They do indeed manufacture a gas that burns hotter, and they do use liquid waste to produce it — they essentially zap the waste with electricity (that arc), capture the gases produced, and turn those gases into a fuel that they call (naturally) MagneGas. The prime use of the fuel right now seems to be as a replacement for acetylene in metal cutting applications, since it burns hotter and cuts better and the production of the fuel is apparently “greener” than producing aceytlene. I don’t know how they produce acetylene, or if those claims about MagneGas being better are true, you can see one of the company’s presentations here if you want to see what they claim in more detail.

That acetylene replacement seems to have been the core revenue-generating focus of the company for quite a while, though they’re still trying to build that business up to becoming self-sustaining — they’re trying to sell the little refineries (fit on a flatbed truck) that can create this MagneGas from a liquid waste stream (plus lots of electricity, presumably). They say the production of the gas generates no pollution, and that the by-products are heat, solid carbon, and purified “nutrient rich” but sterile water that can be used in fertilizers.

Dr. Kent Moors says he got his first college degree, in Physics, at the age of 16, so I’m sure he knows more about this process than I do — I don’t get how the gas they produce can have more energy than the electricity they use to produce the gas, but that’s probably just me. And even if it does consume a lot of energy to produce this gas, perhaps it’s worthwhile to create an acetylene alternative that burns hotter and cleaner, I don’t know.

The co-generation stuff Moors talks about is the next wave of what the company is trying to do, they have indeed tested it and shown the results that Moors talks about, they say, with reductions of 20-30-40% in C02 and more significant reductions in other pollutants, but it seems to me like they’re still pretty early on in testing it. I don’t know how the energy business works in terms of adopting new technologies, but here’s what they say on their website:

“MagneGas is currently developing and verifying a Co-Combustion technology that results in unique combustion characteristics, namely burning MagneGas with less efficient fuels and wastes results in improved emissions, improved efficiency and a dramatic reduction in CO2. These combustion improvements are related to the extremely high flame temperature of the MagneGas fuel as independently verified by the City College of New York.

“Working with one of the largest US power company’s independent laboratories MagneGas Corp and it’s partners have been verifying these claims since early 2014 and is nearing conclusion.”

We’ll give them a pass on the odd grammar there, but it does seem like they expect to be announcing some sort of results about their co-combustion testing in the US in the relatively near future — and they are quite “press-release happy” whenever anything of potential positive impact happens, so I’m sure investors will hear about it if there is good news.

Whether that means it would be worthwhile for lots of companies to suddenly jump in as MagneGas customers or not, I have absolutely no idea. They have a 50/50 joint venture with an unnamed electrical power generation company of some sort to explore and test the technology in the US, and they say that so far the testing is confirming the 20%+ CO2 reduction — though I’d guess that this is a ways from saying that it’s economically viable, or that it’s practical to convert lots of old coal plants or build that potential part of the business, and I don’t know enough about the power business to have any idea what other technologies might show similar (or better) promise for reducing emissions from coal.

The US is apparently a little ways behind the rest of the world in this “MagneGas for Co-Combustion” research — there’s a press release from their Australian partner here that reiterates a lot of the enthusiasm Moors shares, but, well, it’s a press release. Those are supposed to be full of enthusiasm.

MagneGas has presented at the LD Micro conference for two years in a row, and that conference tends to produce a lot of microcap stocks that get favorable writeups from newsletters (and sometimes teaser campaigns) — so that, frankly, gives me a little moment of pause on this one. And it has also been a “paid promotion” stock in the last year or so, which is usually a red flag for me — I haven’t looked deep enough to be sure whether the promotion is being paid for by the company or by outside pump-and-dump investors, but that usually turns me off a stock either way.

The stock has been quite volatile this year as they had a death at their plant in Florida (a big deal for a company with only a couple million dollars in the bank), then got a delisting warning from Nasdaq, then announced a few orders for their MagneGas as an acetylene replacement and saw their stock recover sharply higher. It’s still way below where it peaked in 2012, when they uplisted to the Nasdaq, but it’s been a positive few months for the stock.

And you’d have to be a wiser person than I to understand why. Maybe it’s all based on a reasonable speculation, as Moors seems to be suggesting, that this co-combustion testing in coal power plants will result in positive press coverage and a flurry of new orders in the new year, or maybe it’s all just driven by marketing fluff — I don’t know enough to tell you which is more likely.

The revenue from MagneGas sales as an acetylene replacement have been growing, and growing fairly steadily, but are nowhere near large enough for a $70 million company and show no signs of getting there in the near future — and it’s hard to take them seriously as an R&D-focused company pioneering the development of this technology when they spend only $300,000 a year on R&D. When I feel myself getting infected by the optimism these companies evince, or when the newsletters or stock promoters seem to be making a strong case, I try to take my eyes straight back to the financials to get a little reality check: Over the past two years they have grown the annual run rate of revenues from about $500,000 to about $2.25 million… that’s pretty good growth, but increasing sales by $1.75 million has effectively cost them $3 million in increased selling, general and administrative costs.

Something has to shift for that to start making sense.

Their MagneGas sales seem to pretty consistently come at a cost of about 2/3 of revenues, so if that gross margin stays consistent in the 30-35% range (meaning the direct cost of creating and delivering $1 of gas is about 35 cents, before you account for sales, marketing, or overhead costs), then they will have to increase their revenues tenfold to cover the current level of selling, general and administrative expenses… if revenues were $25 million (instead of $2.2 million), then gross profit would be about $8 million, and that would mean they’d (roughly) break even today with their $8 million of SG&A expenses. And that assumes that the selling expenses wouldn’t rise as sales rise, which is just silly. The only way to get out of this math problem that I can see is if they could suddenly convince a much larger company to expand the business dramatically by licensing MagneGas’s technology or patents and paying royalties, which would mean MagneGas would have much lower operating costs… perhaps their joint venture exploring co-combustion could be the first step in moving toward that possibility, but even typing that makes me squint up my face a bit. Seems awfully future-y.

The fact that they’ve been saying much the same thing about the future potential for several years without meaningful (to me) financial results is a turnoff for me, as is the stock promotion, but I like to keep a little optimism on board: maybe there’s something real underneath it all and this technology really will become commercially viable someday. If so, I suspect it will take far, far longer than a couple months for it to bring 500% returns for any fundamental reason (like big increases in revenue, etc.), but you never know what a lot of attention or press releases or promotion can do to a tiny little stock… so I can’t promise that Moors will be wrong about it rising 542% by January. I’ll just tell you that I wouldn’t bet on it personally, and there would have to be a strong belief in the merits of the technology to justify a valuation anywhere near the $70 million market cap the company carries today.

I’ll leave it to you to make your call on that, I’m not interested in betting on or against this particular stock. Have an opinion on what the next few months or years will bring for MagneGas? Want to explain the technology better than I did? That’s what the friendly little comment box below is for, throw your thoughts on the wall and we can see if they stick.

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E.M.Wilson
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E.M.Wilson
December 10, 2015 10:14 pm

Sounds to me like Dr. Moor may be full of methane in which case he’d do well to stay away from this company as he might explode into nothingness. Just as Anyone investing in it is liable to do.

gls50
gls50
December 11, 2015 11:08 am

Travis,
Thanks again for the common sense analysis. Your publication is worth every penny of the subscription cost.

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armin
armin
December 11, 2015 11:40 am

Shorted some @2,47$. Happy that Interactive Brokers had finally a few shares to lend. Chart shows a history of pumping stock like Travis also mentioned.

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MORGY
MORGY
December 11, 2015 12:02 pm
Reply to  armin

This has been an excellent stock to short over the past couple years, as it often spikes up on good news, but falls back very quickly. Maybe it will happen again after this week’s spike, but this looks more like institutional buying rather than the past news-based day-trader frenzy. Good luck Armin.

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Vance
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Vance
December 11, 2015 12:47 pm

I’m up to 5,500 shares of MNGA myself.

arch1
December 11, 2015 12:55 pm
Reply to  Vance

Well that is what makes a market. You think shares will rise from this level and Armin
thinks they will drop. One of you is likely to gain at the expense of the other.
I am not touching this, at this point.

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Lorne
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Lorne
December 14, 2015 10:46 am

City of Ottawa spent about 7 years with a company called Plasco that was going to build a similar plasma arc furnace to create power from burning municipal waste. They went through hundreds of million of dollars (private investors) and couldn’t get their demonstration plant off the ground and finally closed shop. While Ottawa didn’t lose too much money, some small town in Northern Ontario had invested the bulk of their reserves ($15 mln.) in Plasco and lost it all. While I can’t comment on the technology, the commercialization of it seems to be a bit of a bust. I would hold off investing my money in this “early-stage” investment until there were actual full scale plants running.

arch1
December 18, 2015 4:38 am
Reply to  Lorne

There are huge corrosion problems with temperatures as high as required along with the mix of unknown constituents of municipal waste. Extremely high temperature pure water steam is highly corrosive on its own.
http://phys.org/news/2015-12-hydricity-concept-solar-energy-power.html

Link envisions a perhaps more practical methodology but also has huge corrosion problems at temperatures required.

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Vance
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Vance
December 18, 2015 5:22 am

I couldn’t resist and bought another 4,000 shares yesterday on the pullback. Order fill at 1.78. Personally don’t feel the stock moved as much as it should have on yesterdays premarket PR. Check out it’s news if you missed it. Is MNGA lining up PR’s related to new contracts??

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paul
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paul
December 21, 2015 12:20 pm

I would strongly consider selling all shares of MNGA assoon as possible!! there has been a lot of inside selling ever since the stock hit over $2.00!!!

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arch1
December 21, 2015 1:36 pm

Don’t just do something! Stand there.

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smallcapbull
Irregular
December 21, 2015 1:41 pm

Referring to “Payed campaign” – I only know about the recommendation in “Moneymappress” – Micro Energy Trader – that is open for 1.000 slots
I guess that can’t be the reason. Is anybody aware of a stockpump campaign?

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smallcapbull
Irregular
December 21, 2015 5:44 pm

Well – I don’t think that some newsletter recommendations can ignit multi million share orders that occured periodically in MNGA in some trading days – or may they?

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paul
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paul
December 21, 2015 12:24 pm

PLEASE SELL YOUR STOCKS! Seeking Alpha has very damaging article on MNGA this morning.

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SoGiAm
December 21, 2015 12:29 pm
Reply to  paul

MagneGas’ Shares Tumble: Here’s Why
11:11 am ET December 21, 2015 Benzinga
Shares of MagneGas Corporation (NASDAQ: MNGA), a small-cap alternative energy company, tumbled more than 18 percent Monday morning following a scathing report by The Pump Stopper’ on Seeking Alpha.

MagneGas’ stock has gained around 150 percent since the start of 2015 and hit a 52-week high of $2.50 on December 11.

According to The Pump Stopper, an investigation into MagneGas’ business practice reveals that its partners are “nonexistent, defunct or unviable.” The report also noted that the company’s auditor was barred by the SEC for “falsified and backdated audit documents.”

Finally, The Pump Stopper suggested that the company is merely an “imploding paid stock promotion shell” with an “immediate -92.90 percent downside risk.” Best2ALL!-Ben

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SoGiAm
December 21, 2015 12:58 pm
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*8-K From MagneGas Says It Is Exploring All Legal Options After Anonymous Short Seller Released An Article To A Financial Website, Says It Contains Materially False And Misleading Information Benzinga Best2ALL!-Ben

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SoGiAm
December 21, 2015 1:02 pm
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MNGA-isclosure: No position Best2U-Ben

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paul
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paul
December 21, 2015 12:31 pm

I apologize for sounding alarmist and dramatic. The article written by a contributor at SA(seeking alpha) ddid some forensic accounting in regards to MagnaGas and sone investigative research into its officers. Please at least use some kind of protective stop on your investment into MNGA.

Vance
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Vance
December 21, 2015 12:31 pm

It’s an official bloodbath. Interesting that it was up so strong premarket today with the release of the co combustion pr.

charlier1955
December 21, 2015 12:51 pm

Here is the article:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3768216-magnegas-strong-sell-on-opaque-offshore-entities-insider-enrichment-and-paid-stock-promotion-minus-92_9-percent-downside

Moor and everybody else forgot to check the background of the principals of this company.

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Vance
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Vance
December 21, 2015 1:03 pm

Yes, now the buying begins post company refute of alpha article.

smallcapbull
Irregular
December 21, 2015 1:10 pm

This attack seems to be over – it was a welcome moment to snap up around $ 1,30 in the second of the 8-K Form being sent via MagneGas IR
Thank you short seller 😉

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smallcapbull
Irregular
December 21, 2015 1:15 pm
Reply to  smallcapbull

@ Paul: But for sure it is prudent using stops in MNGA – for both bad news or these kind of trash news in SA that have to be verified first

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charlier1955
December 21, 2015 1:58 pm

I did a quick analysis of The Pump Stopper’s SA articles:
He has published 24 articles on SA since April 22 of 2014. I was able to find Stock price data on 23 (SCOK is a Chinese met coal company I could not find the data on).
2014: 15 articles: 14 stocks down; 1 up; right 92% of the time
2015: 8 articles: 6 Stocks down; 2 up; right 75% of the time
The two articles that were wrong were published on May 12 and July 29. I would give these a little more time to pan out.

Bottom line: The Pump Stopper is credible. I am staying away from MNGA.

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SoGiAm
December 21, 2015 2:09 pm
Reply to  charlier1955

Nice DD charlier1955 🙂 Happy holidays and beyond ALL!-Ben

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Vance
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Vance
December 21, 2015 2:17 pm

My vote is that it comes back down to 1.23 soon and I’ll be taking up another position if it does.

Vance
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Vance
December 21, 2015 6:25 pm

Anyone with a twitter account: search for Ermanno Santilli (CEO of MNGA). If you don’t have a twitter account…I recommend that you get one, as some great and actionable info can often be found there in regards to trading and investing. Start an account and search $MNGA or another stock that you have an interest in….that will get you started on finding some “good” people to follow.

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smallcapbull
Irregular
December 22, 2015 4:17 pm
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Just to comment your words in a neutral way.
For me Ermanno Santilli is much more a CSO than the CEO – and maybe acting sometimes not like the perfect businessmen. If MNGA makes its way to glory – nobody can really negate that – Mr. Santilli will learn not to overreact in such situations. But it seems that is seriously treated in engaging professional assistance.
http://ir.stockpr.com/magnegas/news/detail/2497
For sure, nobody is betting the farm on this microcap…

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arch1
December 22, 2015 6:39 pm
Reply to  smallcapbull

No one should bet more than they could lose and still smile about it. You may be sure you will find satisfaction in your action then.

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Vance
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Vance
December 22, 2015 7:00 pm
Reply to  arch1

If you can smile when you lose…..how will you ever win big?

arch1
December 22, 2015 7:32 pm
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YOU wont. You got my drift.

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Vance
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Vance
December 22, 2015 9:12 pm
Reply to  arch1

So, can I assume that you didn’t buy any MNGA today….what about SUNE on it’s pullback/crash today? I added large call positions today on that one….that closed in the green after gaining around 50% within an hour or two & yes I’ve been adding to SUNE for a month and have accumulated quite a portfolio of it’s stock and many various options…..expect the recent analysts $10 target much sooner that 12 months out. Yes, this one has the ability to become painful for me but, after buying 200 various call options today….I was smiling even though my previously opened positions were down about 14K on the day:-).

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Gui_
Gui_
December 22, 2015 9:52 am

Time to back away from the bong folks in case some haven’t yet.
Here’s Why MagneGas Is Uninvestable | The Wall Street Fox
http://www.thewallstreetfox.com/2015/12/heres-why-magnegas-is-uninvestable_22.html?m=1

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stevemack70
December 22, 2015 7:44 pm

Looks like some folks could go to jail with this one. Maybe Kent Moors can join them.

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Lisa Rosati
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Lisa Rosati
January 29, 2016 2:08 pm

Hmmmmm…. Sounds like this plant needs new management in a big way. A substance that burns at such high temps must be suitable for other applications besides welding.
Funny, the only other viable thing I can come up with is for REALLY nasty bombs, and with military contracts they could be stars….like the ones that would be keeping them up at night. I would be unable to sleep, knowing that the humble plant I helped to grow by signing on military work just toasted Beirut. ALL of it…
Yow! 🙁

Lisa Rosati
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Lisa Rosati
January 29, 2016 2:18 pm

Well…this is a bit of a puzzler, but if we stop and think about it, it is truly possible to pull this off…and rather easily.
I know positively nothing RE the actual processes to which these folks subject their oil, BUT, if I were to try to boost oil volume, I would do this…
Grow a prolific, crowd loving bacteria in a warm vat of oil.
Just feed it, keep it warm and watch it grow the volume of the liquid.
The biotic presence would likely do a tad to the chemical structure, but who cares? Its oil!
It will burn just fine.
End of lecture.

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