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oxford Club has teased that we can now invest in successful companies pre IPO , which in the past was not possible. One reference was to a Presidents Stock Market that apparently has been around for over 100 years, has anyone else read about this ?B

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oxford Club has teased that we can now invest in successful companies pre IPO , which in the past was not possible. One reference was to a Presidents Stock Market that apparently has been around for over 100 years, has anyone else read about this ?

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October 1, 2015 4:42 pm
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These guys are killing me with ALL the doomsday talk and the market is near an all time high. If you followed the Weiss clowns, you would have been short the market for the last 6,500 Dow points up….. meaning you would be broke like all of their predictions. Stay away from Weiss and all their garbage money losing services. THEY ARE A HUGE JOKE!!!!

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September 12, 2012 9:20 pm
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Weiss is a good salesman. Period.

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July 26, 2012 10:10 am
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! Martin has the same exact story and pitch for the new boso Tom Essay!! Martin said the following about Claus Vogt: 1) was an investment genius in Europe and world renown even though I couldn’t find his name anywhere 2) worked for a large prestigious wealth management firm (never said the name) 3) was ahead of his time but didn’t have the flexibility to do what he really wanted to do 4) made his clients a ton of money in the downturn 5) claimed he almost never had a losing year by really showing hypothetical results… Read more »
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July 25, 2012 10:19 pm
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I got into the MDCP at the beginning in March ’09. Claus Vogt ran it. He completely missed the market effects of stimulus & QE for the first year and kept calling for a market meltdown that never happened. He had us in many inverse market ETF’s that lost a lot of money, especially the inverse Nasdaq one. It was a bit of a disaster and Weiss quietly moved Vogt out and Essay in after about 2 years. I got out just prior to Vogt leaving and lost a fair bit of money, though not as much as I lost… Read more »
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June 17, 2012 9:58 am
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All Weiss products are garbage. Sean Brodrick was just pounding the beat to buy UNG a couple of weeks ago. If you followed him, you lost 15%. The overall market has been up huge this year and Weiss still continues to lose people money. Please do yourself a favor and go make money with someone else. This group is a loser and will always be. What happen to Claus the self proclaimed wealth builder that Weiss hyped him up to be…..FIRED!!!!! Get my point!!!!

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March 17, 2012 7:58 pm
Ian Shearer
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I was tempted to join the MDCP, luckily the entry price was just too steep for me. I waited for the crowing ” You didn’t join and now look we’re up X%” and waited, and waited. So I see from the other posts they had nothing to crow about. All about timing. Excellent reasoning from Claus for a bust and a Euro collapse, still on the cards maybe but the market has outperformed them. Actually I would not tar all the Weiss team with the same brush. Larry Edelson has called the gold and silver markets pretty well, he has… Read more »
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January 12, 2012 6:52 pm
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They gave out ticker’s TBT & TBF May be too
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January 12, 2012 3:54 pm
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Indeed, the million dollar contrarian portfolio is consistent in its mediocrity.
The only ones making money is Marty Weiss with our subscriptions. I have been out for a while and am mad at myself to have trusted this service.

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August 16, 2011 2:10 pm
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The current history that Weiss Ratings posts, shows only one winner among the last 11 trades. Claus seems like a pretty smart guy but that hasn’t translated into profitable trades. I subscribed at the beginning and hung in for about 8 months.

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July 26, 2011 4:44 pm
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Pimps and whores is the best way to describe the Weiss team. They will pimp you to death on their doom and gloom services and rob you blind in the process. They could care less about performance.
My advice is to never, ever, ever invest with a Marty Weiss, Money and Markets, or Uncommon Wisdom newsletter.

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April 14, 2011 8:47 pm
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Today was my last day with this Weiss disaster of an investment product known as the “Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio”. Claus Vogt manages the portfolio as well as manages the gross mis-timings of portfolio purchases and sales. The S&P 500 is up 66% since the MCP became operational in March 2009 until yesterday, but the Claus Vogt managed Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio is down 12% during the same period. Essentially Claus has underperformed the market (S&P 500) by nearly 80%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The portfolio actually owns a major gold miner’s stock that’s price has gone down over the last two years while… Read more »
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March 22, 2011 2:45 pm
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MDCP rolled out in March of 2009. It promised to avoid the buy and hold technique that tanked so many portfolios (including mine) in 2008. We would be “making investments designed to generate profits in the great bear market… and when the recovery comes, we’ll go for windfall profits with the great stocks that are selling pennies on the dollar.” It touted 11 Laws of Bear Market Success and preported to have the technical tools to make money in any market. Well two years later the MDC portfolio is down 10% and the S & P is up 65%. Every… Read more »
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March 15, 2011 3:57 pm
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I recently dropped my MDCP membership because the strategies it proposed would only yield profits in the worst possible market scenarios. The short-term stock picks were mediocre. I didn’t lose any money (aside from the membership cost) because I didn’t follow most of the advice. When I did follow the advice, I timed my purchases and sells better. I dropped MDCP because I could get cheaper similar advice by reading the mountain of Weiss Group junk mail I get. These guys are no worse than any other Investment newsletter writers with respect to how they talk up their few successes… Read more »
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March 6, 2011 3:45 pm
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I subscribed in 2009 because of the following quote, from their website (http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/services/trading-services/million-dollar-contrarian-portfolio): “Investments are selected by Claus Vogt, editor of the German edition of Safe Money Report and a disciplined professional with real-world experience making impressive profits in virtually every conceivable market and investing climate.” Two years later, my results show that Claus was not able to make an impressive profit in the 2009 and 2010 investing climate. Apparently, a bear market rally is not one of the conceivable markets in which impressive profits can be made. I suspect if I had a pint with Claus he would admit… Read more »
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March 5, 2011 4:34 pm
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poor results! not enough profits in nine months to pay annual fee.

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December 22, 2010 10:35 am
Henry
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I invested $100,000. Lost $6,700.00 + the subscription cost, about $1,400.00. I must say something good about Martin: he is a good salesman … nothing more … nothing less. Henry

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November 27, 2010 8:08 pm
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Anything from Weiss is like a rear view mirror. If you drive and keep looking at it you’ll crash. You would save $3000 just looking at past performances and trading stocks that did well than to use this or any of Weiss services. The only thing that they have going for them is their customer service. Even their very own Larry Edelson disagrees with them.

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November 19, 2010 11:32 am
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Claus is stunning in his inverse timing. He issues a warning of a megatop on 11/3 encouraging people to sell or go short. The next day (11/4) we see an epic rally with many sectors breaking out into new highs (see finance).

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November 4, 2010 6:51 pm
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I keep kicking myself for having been a member of this horrible service and keep thinking of what I should have bought with the money I lost with Claus’ losing picks. I have lost $6,000 with MCP alone but because Claus was so bearish on the market at 6000, I have lost money with other bearish services I have been a part of as well. Thanks a lot Claus for reinforcing and compounding my losses with your false predictions. I have lost $20,000 altogether on bearish services who acted like Chicken Little at 6000 back in March 2009. Compounding the… Read more »
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November 2, 2010 8:35 am
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I should have known better. Martin has been predicting a falling sky for so long, he is stuck on that subject. Eventually he may be right, but in the meantime most folks will be broke, following his advise. It reminds me of the fellow in the late 80’s and early 90’s predicting “The Upward Spike “, and hyper inflation interesting but wrong. I was a charter member to the Million Dollar contrarian Portfolio The only thing positive I can say about that is that I got in at a discounted price, so I cut my lose in half. THIS LETTER… Read more »
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October 31, 2010 2:02 pm
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OK,it’s too expensive – hence one star value for money.Claus Vogt basically runs the portfolio and answers the questions,and he is based in Germany.He strikes me as honest,and is consistent in what he says. Whilst this service is bearish,not all of the Weiss organization is bearish.Claus is probably the most bearish,followed by Mike Larsson,who edits the conservative Safe Money report [which is a lot cheaper].Martin is fairly bearish,and these three are on the ‘money and markets’ side of the organization.The guys on the ‘uncommon wisdom’ side of it tend to be a lot more bullish about the market areas they… Read more »
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October 31, 2010 9:04 am
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Before the SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION Securities Exchange Act of 1934 Release No. 62075 / May 11, 2010 Administrative Proceeding File No. 3-12341 : In the Matter of : : ORDER APPROVING WEISS RESEARCH, INC., : APPLICATION OF DISTRIBUTION MARTIN WEISS, AND : ADMINISTRATOR FOR LAWRENCE EDELSON : FEES AND EXPENSES AND : DIRECTING DISBURSEMENT Respondents. : OF FAIR FUND : ____________________________________: On June 22, 2006, the Commission instituted settled administrative proceedings against Weiss Research, Inc., Martin Weiss, and Lawrence Edelson (collectively, “Respondents”) for violations of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 in connection with their… Read more »
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July 23, 2010 10:01 am
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On 9th June, Claus had written an article I read on another site – Another warning bell for the stock market – warning of a returning bear market. Fool that I was I didn’t do the opposite to his advice.

Dow up 270 points since I read the article……..

Claus’ timing is perfect if inverse?

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June 11, 2010 4:42 am
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Unfortunately, I subscribed to Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio in March 2009. The recommended investments went south immediately to where I stopped following Claus’ recommendations during the summer. I cancelled my subscription in the fall and received back a portion of my subscription fee. It was an expensive lesson that I learned having just taken an early retirement package from my employer and investing some into this service. I regret following an (?) experts (?) advise due to my always growing my portfolio every year without their costly recommendations. Like all investing, it is best to make investments that you do… Read more »
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June 7, 2010 2:21 pm
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Terrible performance, plain and simply described accurately.
Claus would make a better schnitzel salesman than he does a portfolio manager. This guy is just plain clueless and his timing ability rates up there with BP’s oil well spill control ability.

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June 4, 2010 4:24 pm
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Folks, anyone out there?

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May 30, 2010 12:03 pm
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Portfolio Man, Sorry, I have been on an investing hiatus, however, with the Bear coming back, my interest is getting piqued … shocked by some of the comments here … these crooks (Weiss et Co.) .. are still at it. Well, a sucker is bron every day and I was one of them but I never took at any of there recommendations and I have been in good’ol CASH. A quick update to all. Regardingm investing in Metas, the tax code classifies metals—whether in the form of ingots, jewelry or coins—as “collectibles” and applies a different set of rules. Under… Read more »
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May 14, 2010 12:22 am
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I won’t bother to rate this service’s performance as its actual performance and the comments above tell most of the sad story of the MDCP and Claus Vogt’s market timing and stock selection abilities. Although I’m still an active member they will not post any of my blogs nor will they offer up an explanation as to why they will not. They took my $2500 for two years and now arbitrarily and without reason are singling me out for punitive actions. I plan on calling the SEC as well as the Florida Dept. of Consumer Affairs. If need be I’ll… Read more »
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April 28, 2010 7:24 am
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New warning, stay away from Mike Larson’s new ground breaking interest rate findings. Martin and Mike are always late to the party and will COMPLETELY DESTROY YOUR WEALTH. Martin’s book he published last March told you to put everything into T-Bills and to sell all valuables (like a house) because values were going to continue to sprial downwards. If you listened to him, you would have made the biggest mistake of your life and would have sold everything at the bottom. ALL WEISS PRODUCTS ARE WEALTH DESTROYING RECOS, STAY AWAY!!!!

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April 26, 2010 8:19 am
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Weiss and Claus made me miss the biggest stock market recovery and made me lose big money. Also because of them saying the stock market will continue lower, I also lost money in another options put trader called the Red Flag Insider by Andrew Gordon. Both of these morons said the same crapola in sync and I lost $10,000 altogether. Luckily I limit my losses to a half but unfortunately, between these 2 services, 97% of their recos were dead wrong and they recommended puts in the middle of this bull market. I had $20,000 and with a combination of… Read more »
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April 26, 2010 7:26 am
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I am shocked this service (and Weiss) still exist almost a year after getting blasted by myself and others above. Weiss are the Monday morning quarterbacks. Can’t win a game but can tell you why they lost everytime and make excuse after excuse after excuse. Sad thing is, they are note traders or investors, they wait for actual confirms before they buy and by that time, the move is already over. Usually by the time they notice a stock is a buy, the stock has already doubled and they are saying to buy since their signals have just hit. That… Read more »
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April 23, 2010 12:50 pm
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Year two and the same old tired War Room infomercials from the snake oil firm of Weiss & Vogt and Tom the buffoon. Tom, who are you? The Weiss lie damage control person. In trying to make these two losers look good you make a fool of yourself. Things must be hard for you to sell your self respect for Weiss bucks. Bucks that were garnered from people that were suckered into the MCP scheme. These people are bad market timers, poor stock selectors but they are very good liars in my opinion and the opinions of many others members… Read more »
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April 22, 2010 7:22 am
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This service missed a once in a lifetime opportunity to capitalize on the biggest bull market run in history, +52% from the bottom at 6665 on March 9, 2009 until recent times. Not only did we miss the 50% plus market gain this service, led by Claus Vogt, managed to loose 5.00% of your investment. Between the 52% market gain and the 5% loss of the portfolio, Claus Vogt has underperformed the market by nearly 62%. That’s truly is a textbook example of extremely poor management. I know he has problems because I recently saw an public notice in a… Read more »
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April 19, 2010 3:21 pm
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http://biz.yahoo.com/c/terms/leader.html

THIS is the indicator Claus uses for his recos. Totally useless and lagging indicator that NO ONE in Wall ST even cares about. He never uses graphs or Fibonacci retracements or any graphs to forecast the direction of the market. Also since he is on a 2 day delay, his recos are slow to react to events like this Goldman Sachs SEC case. I’m glad I got out of this one but made a fool of myself using his service to recommend stocks to friends. I don’t even read his Money and Markets anymore.

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April 19, 2010 12:46 pm
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I too lost 3 very good friends as they followed my advise and joint this deal and lost money and they no longer speak to me. I have read the newsletter off & on .. I started years ago when a very wealth local banker would give me his newsletters when his father was the editor. I never learned the final results of the Contrarian Portfolio.

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October 3, 2017 11:03 am
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Claus is interesting to listen too, but a HORRIBLE listener himself. Huge ego. TERRIBLE advice for more than a year. YET Martin and Claus have their head buried in the sand even deeper than the Fed as they congratulate each other for being geniuses rather than admitting they are wrong. Weiss is one of the best salesmen out there. Knows all the buttons to push to scare people and get their money. Wow. I cannot believe how wrong they have been over the last year. Worst of all, they are SUPER long the US dollar. That is a pretty risky… Read more »
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