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Checking out the Fool’s teased “Trend-Spotter” picks

What are the two "genesis trend" stocks hinted at in the "Charter Invitation" to the Motley Fools' new service?

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, August 13, 2020

The Motley Fool in recent years has done just fine with its Stock Advisor and Rule Breakers picks many of which have been in that sweet spot of technology growth stocks, but much of the marketing has shifted to their newer, higher-end services. Like most publishers, the Motley Fool seems to be focused on that “marketing funnel” — bring in free or low-cost subscribers (Stock Advisor is often available at $49/yr, refunds are easy to get), and then work to upgrade them to high-end services that offer model portfolios or more focused sector targeting (today’s teased service, Extreme Opportunities: Trend-Spotter is being offered at $1,799/yr, with no refunds).

And a few readers chimed in to ask about this latest Trend-Spotter offering publicized this morning, so I’ll give it a look today in the interest of timeliness. The general spiel is that the service is launching with a focus on five different “trends,” with two stock picks for each trend, but they only hinted at two of those picks today… so that’s about where our guessing is going to have to focus.

They say, also, that the goal is to identify stocks that are NOT in other Motley Fool services… which is going to be a challenge, and will probably mean that they’re going to have a lot of smaller and newly public companies in this grouping. Which should mean much higher risk and, they hope, higher potential for big returns.

The ads are mostly signed by Eric Bleeker, who has pitched a lot of these Fool “special opportunities” upgrade services over the years, but the people who are running the portfolio, and presumably selecting the stocks, will be Fool analysts Emily Flippen and Seth Jayson — I’ve never noticed Flippen’s name before, but she was apparently a Rule Breakers staffer, and Jayson has been a Fool writer and analyst for a very long time.

The way they’re trying to distinguish this service is with their concept of “Genesis Trends” — here’s a bit from the ad:

“I believe 2020 could be the beginning of the next era of technology and investing trends…

“Generating a wave of powerful new ‘Genesis Trends’ that today are only at their beginning.

“Because history has shown there have been past years when investors could suddenly discover the emergence of MANY powerful trends that appeared in a narrow window of time.

“The moment the Internet came about – wasn’t everyone in technology drooling about their next potential billion-dollar idea?

“And we saw when the Internet went mainstream in 1995, a MASSIVE wave of new trends emerged!

“In just a narrow window of time, e-commerce rose, search engines grew, and massive data centers began dotting the American landscape.”

The other examples given of these kinds of “genesis trends” are the mobile revolution, which was really fueled by the introduction of the iPhone, and they say we’re at the beginning of another big wave now…

“13 years later we could be at the beginning of a similar moment where a series of massive trends suddenly rise at once. I call it the DIGITAL WAVE.

“Now, coming into 2020, the reality is no one could have predicted this moment… It’s the result of perhaps millions of businesses and hundreds of industries all embracing a rapid digital shift at once in response to the coronavirus.”

And they sum up this idea of “genesis trends” here:

“… here’s what’s important about ‘Genesis Trends.’

“They’re moments when technologies or growth markets suddenly hit a point of rapid acceleration that effectively creates the beginning – or ‘genesis’ — of a new trend.

“During the emergence of ‘Genesis Trends’…

“Growth rates can suddenly reach new and often much higher levels

“Winners and losers of industries can be rapidly reset

“Companies that establish EARLY leadership positions become difficult to disrupt”

That actually calls to mind many of David Gardner’s oft-cited criteria for “Rule Breakers,” with particularly the focus on buying high-growth and buying “first mover” companies that Wall Street routinely calls “too expensive.”

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And, of course, it’s objectively true that we’ve seen a massive shift in the economy and consumer behavior during this pandemic shutdown, with widespread theories that this six-month period has effectively accelerated several trends toward e-commerce and digital work and entertainment in a major way — those things were already happening, but in many cases somewhat slowly (like telehealth, for example, where adoption was painstakingly slow pre-COVID), and our global stay-at-home orders moved that growth ahead by anywhere from a few years to a decade.

It has indeed been shocking, and the hottest stocks have certainly reflected that shock — Amazon posted 100% revenue growth in a quarter, for crying out loud, and that shouldn’t be possible for one of the largest companies in the world (OK, I’m rounding up, it was 97%… but still), and that led to the equally crazy move in the shares, with the company’s market capitalization increasing by $600 billion just since January 1 (to accentuate that craziness, there are only seven publicly traded companies with a total market cap above $600 billion in the world).

Will those trends persist? Nobody knows for sure, but technological change does have a way of sticking once it has been adopted… which doesn’t mean that every e-commerce company will do fantastically well, but it does mean that they’ll probably have strong tailwinds because e-commerce has, probably permanently, taken a bigger chunk of consumer buying than was previously expected (as the Fool cites in their pitch, e-commerce went from about 16% of sales last year to over 27% so far this year). The three trends that they specifically highlight in the ad are e-commerce acceleration (Wayfair (W), Shopify (SHOP), Amazon (AMZN), etc.), work from home (Zoom (ZM), Fastly (FSLY), etc.) and remote healthcare (Teladoc (TDOC), Livongo (LVGO), etc.), but they also do mention a few others — streaming video, the “race for a vaccine,” and the “death of cash.”

So with that conceptual backdrop in hand, what is it that the Fool is actually teasing to get you to pull out your credit card? After all, publishers know that they usually have to at least hint at some of what’s behind the curtain in order to inspire a nonrefundable purchase… and that means we’ve got some clues to work with, so we can perhaps find some stock ideas and give you a little to think over before you consider plunking down your $1,799. That is, after all, real money. Even for those of us living behind the gilded gates at Gumshoe Castle.

Here are the very limited hints that they drop in the ad for the first stock:

“… with Trend-Spotter focused on being the solution for emerging trends, the advisors in the service are focused on bringing all-new recommendations into it.

“Here are a couple of examples that new members will find among the first 10 stocks inside Trend-Spotter:

“An online retailer that’s seen e-commerce orders accelerate at a tremendous rate in recent months. This is a stock our analysts have been researching, and it’s riding massive e-commerce tailwinds that recently emerged. But here’s the kicker – it’s presently NOT found in any other Motley Fool services.

I don’t think we’d be able to come up with an e-commerce company whose orders have NOT accelerated in recent months, so for that one we’ll definitely have to guess — and after musing on this for several minutes (in a row, I might add), I’ll guess that this is a pitch for Chewy (CHWY), the pet-focused e-commerce retailer.

Why Chewy? Well, it’s certainly a fast grower, and it has a strong niche business with better than 40% growth in the last quarter… but it’s also on an odd fiscal year with the last quarter ending in April, so although that incorporates six weeks of the pandemic shutdowns and did show some big acceleration, from 20% and 33% in the previous two quarters, I think it’s likely that their next quarter will provide accelerating growth beyond that. They report that next quarter in mid-September.

And as a little kicker for my guess, it’s also true that the Motley Fool did not disclose Chewy as a recommendation of any of their services in articles they published over the past few weeks… but they did disclose it as a recommendation in their “3 Hot Stocks Beating Amazon at its Own Game” article today, which means it was either recently recommended, or someone in the Fool’s disclosures department messed up. That’s no guarantee that it was recommended in this particular service, but it reinforces CHWY as my best guess.

Chewy looks downright cheap compared to some of the hot cloud computing growth stocks that have given everyone sweaty palms over the past few months, it trades at a price/sales ratio of only about 4, a lower valuation than even Amazon, but we should remember, of course, that it’s still a retailer… which means it has fairly tight gross margins (they have to pay for the pet food they sell, and shipping big bags of dog food is expensive).

The business should be pretty scalable if e-commerce continues to grow market share, so it’s possible that they’ll begin to turn a profit in the next few years — though with this ramp-up in sales, we’re all really guessing. Right now, analysts expect CHWY’s revenue to accelerate further to nearly 50% in the next quarter, but then de-accelerate and grow by roughly 50% over the next two years to a total of almost $10 billion a year… and that they’ll begin to post a profit sometime in 2022 (which will mostly be their fiscal 2023). They still have a pretty small market share, so there’s certainly potential for growth — they had about $4.3 billion in revenue last year, and estimates are that US spending on just pet food and treats (which is presumably most of they sell, though they also handle pet prescription medications) was a little under $40 billion that year.

With people treating their pets like family, a trend that has been in place for a long time, and focusing even more on them in this pandemic (including a big boom in “pandemic puppies” being adopted by folks who suddenly have time for training and socializing a pup), I can see how this might be a compelling “trend” pick… and their spending per customer is pretty strong, at $357/year as of their last shareholder letter, so it’s worthwhile for them to spend heavily on marketing to acquire those customers and tempt them with “subscription” plans for pet food that make it easy to lock those “pet parents” in to a long relationship (according to that Fool article today, Chewy gets 2/3 of its revenue from those subscription/autoship sales — which could be hugely important as they grow). I’ve certainly seen plenty of Chewy boxes on porches around my neighborhood, though I confess that I’ve never yet been a customer (and yes, Gumshoe Castle is practically bursting with pets).

Not a bad idea, but, of course, it’s also a company that has to compete directly with giants like Amazon and Walmart, so you never know when a competition might further pressure their margins. I haven’t bought Chewy, but I’d color myself somewhat tempted. If they can inspire loyalty in their customers, it might be worth looking at — they seem to also have some leverage with manufacturers, because it looks like they’re selling a lot of their products to consumers before they’ve even paid their wholesalers (payables are very high, receivables almost nonexistent, and that autoship/renewal feature probably means they don’t need to hold a ton of unnecessary inventory), which certainly helps with cash flow in the short term. That’s somewhat reminiscent of what Amazon did in the 1990s when they were getting started, selling books and essentially having them shipped directly from the publisher, without holding a lot of inventory… and probably paying the publishers several weeks after the consumers had paid them, giving an unprofitable retailer some room to breathe.

And a reason for patience? Well, if I were Chewy management I would be raising a lot of money right now, to build a war chest at a strong valuation and let them further build the business without worrying about near-term profitability — so although they don’t technically need cash right now, I’d be a little surprised if they don’t do a substantial secondary offering at some point in the next few months. Of course, they could post a huge beat and raise quarter in September and pop the shares up another 40% before that happens, I certainly don’t have any certainty about what the near future holds for Chewy (or anyone else, for that matter).

And, of course, there will always be at least a little bit of reluctance among the old guard… if only because they still have the image of the pets.com mascot branded into their brains as a reminder of the most well-known dot-com wipeout company of the 1990s.

And here are the clues for the second stock:

“There’s also a tiny stock worth a little more than a billion dollars that’s finally unifying the way companies manage social media into one simple package. It’s a massive market opportunity, but yet again, this company has never been recommended by a single Motley Fool service. Starting today, this recommendation can be found only inside Trend-Spotter!”

That “unify social media” goal has been the focus of a bunch of software startups in the past decade (Agorapulse, Social Report, Hopper HQ, socialoomph, Meet Edgar, Hootsuite, Buffer, just to name a few), though I guess probably nobody has done a great enough job at it to become dominant… so who might this be among public companies?

The best guess here is Sprout Social (SPT), which has roughly doubled in its short life as a public company but is not too far above a billion dollars in valuation (it’s rising today, currently at $1.6 billion). They went public in late December, and just priced a follow-on offering at $27.50, so the fact that the shares are well above $30 shows a certain enthusiasm among investors.

What’s to like? Well, it is a software subscription business, and investors love those… and it’s growing pretty nicely, with roughly 27% revenue growth last quarter… that’s not the blistering growth we’re seeing out of the big coronavirus winners, but is also trading at a fairly low valuation relative to other “cloud software” stocks, with a price/sales valuation of only 13. SPT hasn’t yet gotten any news coverage at Fool.com, nor have there been any disclosures as of yet of the shares being recommended by a Fool service.

Here’s how the company describes itself:

“Sprout empowers businesses around the globe to tap into the power and opportunity of social media. Our cloud software brings together social content and messaging, data and workflows in a unified system of record, intelligence and action. Operating across major social media channels like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, LinkedIn Google and YouTube, we provide organizations with a centralized platform to effectively manage social media efforts across stakeholders and business functions.”

I can see how that’s important, and it’s quite possible that their resources as a public company will let them stand out from the pack of software providers in this space… but it is a crowded space, and I don’t really know much about the relative appeal of the competing services (as you might have noticed, Stock Gumshoe is not particularly well tuned-in to social media platforms).

Sprout reported last week, and said that their “key metrics accelerated through the quarter” as they raised their guidance for the year. They grew their customer count by less than 10% year over year, which I would say sounds pretty disappointing, but they did manage to grow their big customers faster — the customers who spend over $10,000 a year on Sprout Social grew by 54% over last year, which is impressive. Their software is not terribly expensive, at $249/seat/month for the top tier product, so $10,000 would mean at least three or four users at that company.

Their guidance was for more of the same, with revenue growth in the next quarter of roughly 25%, and total revenue growth for 2020 of about 26%, to $129 million. They are selling some additional shares, but only about 1.5 million of them will be new shares (most of the offering is for existing shareholders to get out, as is common in the year following an IPO), so the “dilution” from this sale is only about 3% — so you’re still getting revenue growth of about 25-30%, and a valuation of about 13X revenue. The analysts are understandably optimistic about the shares, since the first wave of analyst reports about a new company tend to come from the investment banks that did the underwriting, but even they don’t see SPT turning a profit for several years… though they do think revenue will steady grow at this 25-30% pace for at least the next couple years.

Sprout Social isn’t a company I know anything about, so I’m a little reluctant to get excited about it here — that level of growth is not quite up to the “blistering” level, and given the huge variety of software packages available for social media management the only obvious advantage I see for Sprout is that they’re the only pure-play publicly traded company in this niche (at least, that I know of — maybe there’s another one hiding out there somewhere). I’d think that this would be a critical technology to eventually be built in to customer, sales, public relations and advertising software packages, so if I were digging into Sprout Social I’d start by looking into what kind of integrations or partnerships they might have (if any).

I’m willing to stipulate that better-managed social media is a “genesis trend” idea that could have some legs, but I’d have to know more to bet on little Sprout being the eventual winner… maybe that’s just me being too cautious, we’ll see. I’d be curious to hear what you think

As, indeed, I’d like to know what you think about this whole idea — do you see big and permanent “genesis trends” emerging here? Do you agree that Chewy or Sprout Social might be key players in those tends? Have other ideas that you think are stronger, or better guesses to match those limited Fool clues? Let us know with a comment below.

Disclosure: Of the stocks mentioned above I own shares of and/or call options on Teladoc, Amazon, Shopify, Google parent Alphabet, Twitter, Fastly, and Apple. I will not trade in any covered stock for at least three days after publication, per Stock Gumshoe’s trading rules.

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Matt
Matt
August 14, 2020 5:11 am

Trying to understand the negativity of some of these posts toward Motley Fool. I have three MF subscriptions, rule breakers, stock advisor and everlasting portfolio. I don’t have an awful lot of money to invest, and I am no expert, and I simply buy a small amount of all their picks and leave them, sometimes as little 500 usd if that is all I have. This has worked very well for me, paying for the subscriptions many times over. I made 1500 usd just on 2 stocks of Tesla which covered most of it, let alone the sizable returns on kinsale, trade desk, shopify, Amazon, etc etc etc. Sure there are sales pitches, but that does not detract from the good advice I have received and I like the fact, as another post has mentioned , that they tell you up front that every one is a winner and they are not there to make you fast money. Saying that I’m growing a little concerned about the number of stocks that are now being re recommended after huge run ups, but will need to see where this goes as sticking with my uneducated but successful strategy. Just my 2 cents…

P.S . Fully agree on the Quality of Gumshoe content…. quite literally the best 7 usd one can spend on financial advice! Thank you Mr. Travis your endeavors.

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timcarp1964
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August 15, 2020 11:33 am
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I can’t comment on everyone’s negativity of MF, just my own. I was a subscriber to the Stock Advisor newsletter back in 2013-2014. I guess they turned me onto Chipotle and I did well in that. But there others that were crap stocks, some military auction guy and others I can’t remember now. They were long on AAPL and I should have stayed with that. Ugh. Ultimately the reason I got out was because all the junk email they sent trying to get me to spend more money with them.

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Gary Reynolds
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August 16, 2020 2:44 pm
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They seem to be hawking their subscriptions and selling stuff instead of providing reasonable analysis of the markets and equities. I dropped them last month!

Bullish on life
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Bullish on life
August 15, 2020 2:31 pm
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I for one have found MF to be one of the worst, if no the worst site on the internet. It’s basically the sky is falling approach or name every stock and of course you will get lucky on occasion. Everyone, ye everyone has pieces AMZN or TSLA, so those stock don’t make your point for MF authenticity. Skip the fees and just buy more stocks. do your own research.

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jeremyjohn
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August 16, 2020 7:54 am
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I joined MF shortly after stock prices tanked this year. I was fortunate enough to have cash on the sidelines and I started buying my own picks, mainly no-brainer stocks like AAPL and HD. Then I spent a couple hundred to join MF Rule Breakers and Stock Advisor after getting hooked on their podcasts.

For me joining MF has been a life-changing experience. I went from investing cash I had on the side to moving half of my retirement funds from a 401k to a self-managed IRA and building up ‘tracer’ and hold position in around 50 stocks. This sounds incredible, but I’ve doubled my retirement savings so far this year despite the fact that my largest positions are long-term plays that have barely budged.

But it isn’t all about the money. If you’re just looking for a place to stash your savings, give your money to an investment advisor. If you’re looking to make investing part of your lifestyle by investing in ideas, people and companies that are changing the world, join Stock Advisor and start listening to the MF podcasts. And read this site, too! 🙂 I found Mr. Gumshoe because of MF and my quest for more information on investing in their premium services.

Keep in mind that with MF you get access to all of their articles, and you can see what stocks are recommended even if you can’t see the specific service recommending them – that has helped me a ton with my own research. So don’t be skeptical, learn how to use an email filter to eliminate marketing messages (it is 2020 mind you) an open yourself to the wisdom one gains by taking control of his or her investing future.

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Andrew
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Andrew
August 18, 2020 11:39 am
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It’s been quite refreshing finally finding someone, Travis and his followers, whom I feel like I can trust. Half of my research has not been on which stocks, but whom I can trust for stock research. So, I thought this would be a trustworthy place to ask my question. First, I only have a few hundred $ per month for trading right now. (Trying to pay off credit cards first.) I’ve started buying stocks in earnest for the first time. Right now, it’s just long-term stocks for holding. (For example, I like RKT for long term.) But I’d like to start exploring short sales for nearer future returns. I have a FT job, so I don’t think I have the time to learn and accurately execute penny-stock trading (i.e. pump and dumps). Therefore, I was wondering if anyone either A) had recommendations for reputable resources for long-term holds of penny stocks, and/or B) could recommend a managed service for a penny-stock broker. I’m not sure I’ll have enough $ to satisfy a minimum account balance for a managed service right now, but I’d like to at least start exploring. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

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learn-an-earn
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learn-an-earn
August 18, 2020 4:24 pm

Greatly appreciated. I think your feedback re. penny stocks was the final sign they’re to be avoided, unless I learn of some that have good information around them, and have signs of long-term value. I’ll occasionally pick and choose a stock to hold based on research, including quality sites like yours. For example, I think I’ll take a couple MRAM based on your other article. And yup, looks like it’s also time to get back into mutual funds. Happy trading everyone!

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goldsneaker
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August 16, 2020 6:24 pm
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As a retired person, I found Motley put a lot of money into more speculative less known dividend stocks. I was looking for some dividend aristocrats. When COVID hit, I was worried about restaurants, hotels, and resorts, and airlines but they kept recommending them even as things started to tank. I felt like they were just standing on the sidelines and not thinking, like, hey where should my money be as we hit a time very much like the great recession. I unloaded everything I had in airlines, hotels, REITs except, medical, apartment and industrial. I unloaded everything with high PE’s. I unloaded banks and insurance companies for the issues with the inability to pay rent or afford insurance. I cut almost all my American stocks and had about half the number of holding. I moved 20 percent into safer sectors in ETFs, (gold, stables and untilities), and had 30 percent cash. At 30 percent down for the market or the bottom, I thought even if it goes lower I can start to buy back some solid companies that I had unloaded nearer to the top, VISA, MC. Hopefully even it if went lower I had Utilities that would probably not just dividends What did Motley do? Basically nothing. All the government bailouts were something that I didn’t predict. Motley just had a hold on philosophy. Many of their holdings went to no dividends or cut dividends. I bailed out and bought back in lower. I did better than the service over this wild period. Once the government bailout started to lift the market I started to reinvest from 30 percent cash down to about 7. What is the long term effect of just printing money with nothing backing it? I don’t really get it, it’s a house of cards perhaps. I am staying large in Staples, Utilities and Gold. How did Motely help me with the crisis? They didn’t help at all. They were too slow. Ones that I sold crashed down. They provided no guidance. CRISIS equals opportunity and danger. I decided what dividends would suffer on my own. Now I have bought a small bit of the banks back. I might be early but I have bought in again much lower. Motley has a lot of Canadian picks in Oil and other dirty energy. I haven’t believed in OIL and the like for some time. That is something that will trend down over time. I thought it was time to part ways. They weren’t doing much that I was comfortable with. They are not into big-cap companies that I want to be into. I was going my own way. I was not going with their recommended portfolio. I don’t like the advice I’m getting, it’s not stage of my life appropriate. I don’t believe in there advice. In a major long term crash, they would just sit tight, that doesn’t cut it for me. Motley can be more suitable to younger people, who are still earning income. Motley is not unusual in this. That’s the standard advice. All drops are short-lived. FALSE. How about in Japan or in the great recession?

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jeremyjohn
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August 16, 2020 8:23 pm
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My first suggestion: learn to use paragraphs. They’re a useful writing tool for developing an argument, which is a good alternative to slamming the reader’s proverbial face against the pavement with an endless rant.

Second, you’re talking Staples and gold and I cannot believe you’ve ever even been to the MF website. In March you could have invested in virtually any of MF’s long-term recommendations and made a minimum of 50% return as of today. You’re saying they’re not into ‘big cap’ companies but AAPL – literally the largest company in the world – is one of the stocks they recommend to every new investor starting a portfolio.

My third and final thought is that you are the type of investor who may be well-advised to turn his or her money over to a money manager. You seem to have little to no concept of what investing is, at its core, and I could easily see you expend a lifetime of savings following any one of the incorrect ideas about money/the economy/stocks above. Please, do yourself a favor and get professional help managing your finances.

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Malter
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Malter
August 14, 2020 7:22 am

I was thinking the retailer was OSTK

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Malter
August 14, 2020 7:22 am

Was thinking the retailer was OSTK

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lehmanne
August 16, 2020 10:04 am

Hi Travis,

Will you be writing about Overstock again? I read your post about blockchain in April and bought some then for the digital dividend. It’s been a fun ride. What do you think about TZROP ( tzero)?

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marissa
marissa
August 14, 2020 8:29 am

I was a member of Motley Fool’s Stock Adviser and Rule Breakers. Unfortunately I did not have the money to invest when they first recommended a particular stock. My understanding was that once they recommended a stock, it was still a buy so I bought some stocks at a much higher price. As a result, I don’t have the big returns they tout!

The same goes for Paul Mampilly’s Unlimited Profits. I joined one month ago and was told every stock in their portfolio was a buy even though they were recommended months and even years ago so the big profits have already been made.

. As a new investor, I trust Travis’s detective work and appreciate all of the information shared here. Thanks to everyone for sharing thoughts.

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Nate
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Nate
August 14, 2020 12:14 pm
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Marissa, you have to keep in mind that the Motley Fool stock picks aren’t typically ones that will explode in the next 3-12 months…granted sometimes they do, but those are the exceptions and not the rule. Their recommendations are typically focused on growth of the stock 5-10 years down the road and you have to go in with the mindset of patience when investing in the MF recommendations.

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Doea
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Doea
August 14, 2020 11:20 am

Does any1 know what the 10 pics are?

tbone0634
tbone0634
August 14, 2020 12:35 pm

Hey Travis,
I was just listening to a pitch from Don Yokum about ” A tiny $4 dollar company that
can reproduce a 2.1 milllion per ounce substance , for 15.00″ Cures everything from Cancer to Weightloss! Do you have any Ideas on this?

Thanks

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timcoahran
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August 14, 2020 2:19 pm
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$/ounce looks like they must have to catch a whole lot of rattlesnakes to extract each mg of oil!

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Jill H
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Jill H
August 17, 2020 9:30 am
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I want to know the answer to this too. I did some research and 4D Molecular Therapies was founded by David Shafer, the PhD that discovered the process from UC Berkeley but the company is still private. IPO in the works. So what other small cap are they talking about? Really want to know!!!

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Jill
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Jill
August 17, 2020 9:33 am
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Oh! It is on the Nasdaq trading DDDD but 0 balances. Talked to Schwab but they didn’t think it would start selling shares yet.

timcoahran
Irregular
August 14, 2020 1:18 pm

Seems the I.T. problem has reappeared – where large groups of the previous comments have disappeared. First noticed this half way through your fishing trip…

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JHS
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JHS
August 14, 2020 4:08 pm
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Hi. So personally i feel like an idiot. I just noticed a bottom toward the bottom left with page numbers. So it seems like a chunk of prior comments have been bumped to a prior “Page 1” and these are on “Page 2.” Dont know if thats what you’re experiencing but i just noticed it and feel like a dumerasel.

timcoahran
Irregular
August 16, 2020 2:09 am
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Yes, i see it now, thanks.
I can be ‘dumerasel’ too – just learned a new word!

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iwannaberich
August 14, 2020 4:23 pm

FYI, just got an email from Motley Fool. They revealed their #1 pick for the trend spotter service. Nailed it again Travis, it is Chewy.

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Fakename
August 15, 2020 9:02 am
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I’m a paying member of Motley Fool and not only did they not send me an email for the webinar, they didn’t even send me the email with the #1 pick. Sometimes MF sends me ads via snail mail for their expensive portfolios, I didn’t even get that this time. Pisses me off.

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jeremyjohn
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August 16, 2020 8:24 am
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I didn’t get to the Webinar via email. I was just reading their site and basically every article you read has this service advertised at the bottom – I clicked the link and..boom.

Don’t sweat the small stuff. Life’s too short.

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mia l
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mia l
August 16, 2020 2:21 pm
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are you saying they emailed you the #1 pick without your being a member of the new trendspotter service or that you joined? please clarify. as a mf stock adviser member, i am wondering. thanks!

Quin
August 14, 2020 4:36 pm

Has anyone joined the Trend-Spotter service? Are you happy with what you see?

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abreich36
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August 15, 2020 3:44 pm
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I think they’ve just launched this $1,800 service with 10 stocks… so at best… you can only be guessing at ‘what you see’ …
But Motley has generated a much better than avg return on the full range of their products …
For the ‘cheapskates’ amongst us … it is worth looking at the ARK family of ETFs …
I think they have been INCREDIBLE !!!
Pls do your own due diligence.

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goldsneaker
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August 16, 2020 6:31 pm
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Very interesting. All the innovation stocks with diversification and without paying $1800 for a service.

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ERIN HUTCHINGS
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ERIN HUTCHINGS
August 17, 2020 6:08 am
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Agree! Most Motley recommendations are in there.

stoplossorder
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stoplossorder
August 17, 2020 2:48 pm
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abreich36, help the ignorant, what is ARK?
Thanks

ronwill
September 4, 2020 6:06 pm
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ronwill
August 14, 2020 8:43 pm

I found a couple of Motley Fool ETF’s. You could try them if you don’t want to pay for subscriptions. They are both up pretty nicely since the crash. Or just look at the holdings and choose which ones you want to invest in.

TMFC, Motley Fool 100 Index ETF, up about 26% for 1 year.
MFMS, MFAM Small-Cap Growth ETF , up about 20% for 1 year.

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1NLINE6
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August 15, 2020 11:43 pm

I have done very well following Stock Advisor and Motley Fool with very modest funds and beginner knowledge. In late 2018, I bought a share of winners like Masimo, Facebook, Paypal, and Appian – as well as losers like Stitch Fix, Blackberry, Alaska Air. In late 2019, fractional shares came into play so I started regularly buying slices of Apple and Amazon. Then I picked up full shares of Zoom (several), Shopify, The Trade Desk, Okta, Fastly, and fractions of Tesla. Portfolio is currently up 80% overall. The Foolish method has helped me remain calm and not be impulsive but thoughtful. During the dip, their advice helped me pad my portfolio instead of freaking out. Not to mention, I got the first year for $99 with $85 cash back from an eBates competitor.

I personally love decoding the teaser emails for buy recommendations. I figured out all of the FAZER stocks with a friend.

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August 16, 2020 8:17 am
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I have SFIX. It hasn’t been a loser for me because I have only owned it since May. I was a little skeptical of the stock until a friend told me how much his wife likes the service. I can see this company growing a nice niche in the fashion market in the future, even if I didn’t really like their decision to effectively fire some of their stylists at the height of the pandemic. My advice is to stick with the stock. It may take a few years, but think it’s a winner.

On the other hand, I recently liquidated my entire FB position. Why, you ask? Didn’t they just jump 10% after their latest earnings report? Yes, it’s true the did. I just don’t like the company long-term. Yes, today there are millions of small businesses that depend on FB. And I have personally used WhatsApp since before their ownership. But what’s their growth strategy? Are they just going to swoop down and kill or consume newcomers in the social media space? FB is a company I *want* to see disrupted. And I’m hoping that companies like TTD and the ‘open Internet’ make it easier for companies to spend on advertising campaigns more broadly instead of getting sucked into the FB-o-sphere.

Another stock you should check out: MGNI, formerly Rubicon Project. Recently merged with Telaria and have a strong, growing position in connected TV.

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1NLINE6
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August 16, 2020 5:31 pm
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Have several shares of SFIX. I resolved to hold it because I think they have good long-term viability and I don’t expect them to thrive during Covid. I also feel put off by Facebook’s malfeasance. Haven’t decided to sell it yet but I would love to see disruptors emerge in that market.

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ERIN HUTCHINGS
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August 17, 2020 6:09 am
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I did the same and totally agree!

jeremyjohn
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August 16, 2020 8:32 am

Just one more thought on the MF and some of the comments here…

Has anyone had a conversation with friends or co-workers regarding investing and been utterly perplexed with respect to how people think about investing? I can’t tell you how many times I’ve talked to people about this stock or that and they respond “well the market has gone up too fast…”

Yes? Well, I don’t disagree and like many others I expect we’ll see corrections on a lot of stocks through the fall and into next year. But what people fail to understand is that when I’m investing in a stock I’m looking for a company to grow 5x. Will every company grow that much? Of course not, but if a few do it’s easy to get market-beating returns.

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livfr3
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August 16, 2020 1:55 pm

Emily Flippen is a terrific young analyst and a rising star at The Fool.

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mia l
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August 16, 2020 2:33 pm

i am a member of motley fool’s stock advisor and watched the “genesis” video. i didn’t join the service and also didn’t receive the email with the #1 pick, but i wanted to share a few stocks they mentioned as examples of “genesis trendsetters” that would *not* be in the portfolio (because, i believe, they said the picks for this new service would only be ones not given in any other mf service), but that they were still bullish on. they are ESTC (this is one they brought emily flippen on to talk about. someone else mentioned her in the comments here.) and STNE. interestingly, the latter did an offering within a day or so of the mf video. here’s a month-old post from them on the company: https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/06/18/stoneco-disrupting-status-quo-economy-brazil.aspx

also, my two cents on chewy is that it’s incredibly popular so likely a good investment. i live in nyc and literally everyone i know with pets uses it. as do many people i don’t personally know, given that my building’s package room is constantly full of chewy boxes—and this was true pre-covid as well.

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gmadks
August 16, 2020 2:35 pm

Travis the 3 stocks teased in this MF Genesis Trend are STNE,TWST,Elastic(ESTC)and Chewy

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ritajs77
August 19, 2020 10:58 am
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Elastic and STNE are mentioned in other services. They are premium services. So they wouldn’t or shouldn’t be in the new service.

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Fakename
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August 19, 2020 11:15 am
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According to a post on Reddit, those first three stocks were examples of the types of companies they have in Trend-Spotter, not actual stocks that are a part of the portfolio. And Motley Fool recommends the same stocks across many of their services including the premium ones. Someone posted the 5G portfolio here and fifteen of the nineteen stocks were already recommended in the Rule Breakers and/or Stock Advisor services.

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August 24, 2020 12:34 am
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You sure about that 4 stick?

gmadks
August 16, 2020 2:40 pm

Travis the teased stocks in MF Genisis Trend are Stone Co.(STNE),(TWST), Elastic(ESTC) and Chewy (CHWY) Travis thank you for all the research you painstakingly do for us. We greatly appreciate you!!!

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lyonden
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August 16, 2020 3:15 pm
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Thanks for the info but I think that is 4 stocks, not 3!

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gmadks
August 16, 2020 4:17 pm
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they added Chewy later the next day

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Jeffrey
August 16, 2020 4:20 pm

I came to Fool about a year ago. I am retired and have a very Berkshire like portfolio. At first I was excited because I remember the Fool from long ago. Stepping in I saw they are not for the little guy. Recommends for the most part came with hefty stock prices. I also look at companies I understand. Chewy was my go to place to get food for the pets. A+ company and the discount is real. But backing up I left the Fool when the endless pitches rolled in . What sent me away was the new high end services. I am a working stiff. Suddenly I read of the new way to make oodles of money on private subscribers high price new newsletter. This may sound dumb but for me it is bad ethics. Why do I have the former leading edge Stock Advisor when the same company asks me to pay more dollars and I will never know the Fools deeper core calls. Again I am not like most of you. I have around a 1/2 million dollar portfolio. My positions I have held for some decades. I live simply because I have one kid who is building a new dream business that will support the family but not a real retirement grub stake. My other 2 have done very well. So again I am the guy who say this as the Fool had changed their ethical contract. They showed up as the brohams for the little guys. Now decades later and wealthy they have devolved into high price stock pitches and high price new services. I came to Travis because he is a righteous ethical man. The best game in town and humble and honest. Please don’t read my words as a put down for those of you that have been very successful. I am happy for all of you. The dictum is-‘who is the individual that has happiness in life? The person who is happy with what they have!’
The Gumshoe ought to be for all of us—‘ we are not worthy!’ (Wayne ‘s World).

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jeremyjohn
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August 16, 2020 8:41 pm
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I seriously question your thinking on this subject.

Okay, I understand you’ve worked a long time for your savings. Me too.

But let’s do some critical thinking. Had you taken half of your $500k last year and started moving it into some of the MF’s most recent recommendations this year like SHOP, TTD, TWLO, MDB, etc, you would likely have a *much* larger investment account. Just look at what SHOP and MELI have done this year alone. And there is TSLA, TDOC, and stocks like ZM that I missed out on because I was reluctant to join their service. It sounds like you don’t know how to use their service?

And you are saying they’re immortal for advertising higher end services? This makes no sense. You have enough money saved that in my opinion you should be the type of investor that is willing to allocate $50 or $75k to one of their premium services. Someone posted the 5G super cycle stocks here in a post that was later removed due to complaints. I’ve followed those companies and it would have definitely been worth the $3k or whatever it cost for investing info on these companies. Most of them have done very well and are accelerating their growth nicely. In fact, I’m still accumulating shares in several as there are a few companies that I am confident will be trillion dollar companies in 5 years.

Whether it is here or MF or whatever, people deserve to be compensated for their valuable stock research. If you don’t believe that, I don’t know why you’re investing at all.

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August 17, 2020 2:06 am
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Hi John,
I enjoyed reading your post. I recently subscribed to Travis. I have been using MF Stock Advisor for over a year. I was unable to buy most of the picks because they are pricey.
However, I got a share of SHOP and a few of TWLO. John could you please share the 5G Super Cycle Stocks? Thanks in advance.
My email address is millslun@aol.com

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stoplossorder
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stoplossorder
August 17, 2020 2:54 pm

John, not a cheapskate here, I belong to stock advisor, future trends, cloud connections and just can’t afford any more subscriptions. Would also be really grateful for the 5G super cycle mentions.

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August 19, 2020 8:28 pm
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Tier 2 – DOCU, AYX, SQ, PYPL, CDNS, XLNX, TER.
Tier 3 – TDOC, CRNC, ALRM, LITE

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David
August 16, 2020 8:05 pm

I find MF and many other sites are much the same. Start with one offer to buy in and then a few months later start off another. When you question them they say it is different but in my eyes what I went into looked like I should have received that information. The odd winners they give are small in value to what they receive in fees. Whether paying $49 or $2,500, all I want is good accurate information rather than a lot of spin and videos. It appears everyone of these companies are linked to another so you get emails after emails of same information or new offers. I hate this.

ritajs77
August 16, 2020 11:14 pm
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Yes, that’s their business plan to upsell to the higher price. I’ve been taken too many times, expecting more. But MF does have really great picks. I’m off to buy CHWY now. I used them about 6 years ago when my kitty was still around. They are convenient.

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August 17, 2020 2:30 am
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David you are not the only one who HATES THIS–all these guys are not delivering all they promise. All the junk emails generated by these services are exhausting . I finally opened another e-mail and they still found me. The repetition is tiring
danishviking

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stoplossorder
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stoplossorder
August 17, 2020 2:56 pm
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“All the junk emails generated by these services are exhausting .” – TOO TRUE!
How to stop them?

marissa
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August 17, 2020 6:54 pm
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David, I agree with you. Once you subscribe to one, the emails are never-ending trying to sell you another subscription. Wasted an hour today listening to Matthew Carr pitch his Viper (V score) subscription. He gave Sibanye Stillwater (SBSW) as his “free gift”. This stocks has outstanding warrants. Don’t really understand warrants much but got burned when NKLA investors redeemed their warrants for $11. A share. The stock fell from $40+ per share to around $20+. A share.

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R K LAKHOTIA
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August 17, 2020 12:56 am

I read all the comments. The foremost is to define long -term. Very few stocks can qualify to hold say beyond 3-5 years. The money is to be made now and not delayed to future.
 MF recommendations are to hold the stocks for at least 5 years. 5 years is a very long time. Anything can happen during this period. We can commit funds. Remember that the technology world is changing at fast and furious speed. 

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jeremyjohn
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August 17, 2020 2:54 am
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I would strongly encourage others to disregard this comment. Too many examples to list. 3-5 years is not a long time and it may take some companies that long to make technological inroads with customers – imagine moving to a new DB technology, no small feat.

Yes, companies often do ‘pop’ when their stars align, but trying to time this event is difficult to impossible. Better to buy with a vision. The companies that I buy *are* the ones changing the technology world.

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August 21, 2020 11:05 am
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I agree with Jeremy. Imagine that you bought one of the highest fliers currently still climbing, Netflix. Had anyone bailed really early on after a tiny short term gain, you would have sacrificed massive gains. I don’t know that many here are talking about day trading strategies which RK seems to more espouse in chasing short term gains. I day trade a small piece of my portfolio in biotechs but its more for my personal amusement than anything.

stoplossorder
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stoplossorder
August 17, 2020 2:38 pm

Spot on, Gumshoe, I am a Fool and CHEWY is the stock Emily punted. Thanks for the detective work for Sprout.
Of all the stock advisories, MF is the best. They give good, sensible advice. I listened to other ones and moved to cash – really regretting it. I will stick to MF from now on.

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