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David Gardner’s “The Next Amazon.com” Stock

Motley Fool Rule Breakers teases: "Why this may be our second chance at banking an e-commerce fortune..."

Newer versions of the ad hint that "This 37-Year-Old CEO Is Betting $782,000,000 on 1 Stock"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, September 1, 2017


This article was originally published on January 12, 2017. I have updated my disclosures and the Irregulars Quick Take, and added some comments and number updates to update my thoughts on the stock, but many of the quotes are from the earlier version of the ad and not everything has been updated. The company being touted, Shopify, was just under $50 a share when this article first appeared, it is currently in the $110 neighborhood.

The Motley Fool has another sales pitch for their Rule Breakers newsletter service that has led a few readers to send questions our way, so it’s time for us to fire up the ol’ Thinkolator and see what it is that they’re hinting at.

Rule Breakers is the growth-focused “entry level” newsletter from the Motley Fool these days — as they’ve focused more on recruiting members for their hugely expensive Supernova and Motley Fool One and asset management and “get everything” products, most of what used to be their more exclusive newsletters (Hidden Gems, Rule Breakers, etc.) have drifted down in price to that key $49ish level where they can bring in new “never subscribed to anything before” customers (who then become the best candidates for their “upgrade to our better stuff” pitch in the months following their signup).

That’s what all publishers do, but it’s good to keep it in mind — in the Motley Fool’s case, the basic strategy seems to be that they do all the stock recommendations and analysis in the newsletters, and then do all the real portfolio allocation advice and more hands-on “service” in the pricier memberships. So at least they’re not pitching you a “secret” stock for this $49 service and then pitching a second “even more secret” stock for the $5,000 service the day after you sign up.

But most of you don’t care about that — what you’re wondering, I gather, is “what’s the stock?” Let’s look into some clues from the ad so we can get you an answer. First, the big picture promise of future riches:

“Two of the smartest (and most successful) investors I’ve ever met say that buying shares of this company today could be like going back in time and snapping up Amazon.com in 1997…

“Just before it shot up over 25,000% and made investors like you and me rich beyond their wildest dreams… turning every $10,000 invested into more than $2.5 million!”

It’s true that David Gardner recommended Amazon way back when it was a fresh new company that only sold books, before the dot-com crash… and that he rode it all the way to today, making it a fantastically incredible investment.

It’s also true that they’re a little free with the “next Amazon” comparisons in the marketing department at the Motley Fool… and that, like other growth stock services, they emphasize those few huge winners that any such service always has. Most growth stocks that they tease get the “next Netflix” or “like buying Priceline at $50” or the “looks a lot like Amazon in the early days” treatment as they try to remind you of Gardner’s past successes and, perhaps, gloss over the fact that it is typically a few blowout performers that bring up the average returns for the sometimes 100 or more stocks recommended by the newsletter… so you better buy all the stocks, or somehow pick the ones that will be huge winners instead of the ones that never take off.

One of David Gardner’s more recent heavily promoted “secret” ideas was Match Group (MTCH) last Spring, and that also got the “like buying Amazon in the 1990s” comparison (the stock is doing well since that recommendation, incidentally, up about 50%).

And this one also gets the “Netflix” mention from Eric Bleeker, the analyst who actually signs the recruiting letter (the Fool, probably wisely, has gotten away from having their stars, founders Dave and Tom Gardner, sign the heavily promotional teaser letters)…

“I haven’t been this excited about a stock since Netflix – which has delivered returns of 5455% to those who followed David’s December 2004 recommendation!”

But anyway… which specific one is being pitched today? Inquiring Gumshoe’s wanna know! Clues for you:

“… this one is still a relatively tiny company – meaning its biggest gains may well still be yet to come.

“In fact, it’s currently just 1/100th the size of Amazon, yet it is exhibiting the same kind of eye-popping numbers that have turned Amazon into arguably the greatest growth story of our generation.

“For instance, this company has…

  • Managed to grow the number of companies that sell goods on its websites from 84,000 in 2013 to well over 325,000 today (a 287% increase)…
  • Seen the value of merchandise sold across its platform soar from $1.7 billion to $9.8 billion in less than three years’ time (a 476% increase)…
  • And as a result, had its yearly revenues jump from just $23.7 million in 2012 to over $258.9 million so far this year (an incredible 992% increase!)…

“… like Amazon, this company was started by a brilliant and super passionate entrepreneur who set out to sell just a single category of goods online (in this case, snowboards, of all things)….

“… just like with Amazon, the founder of this company still not only leads its day-to-day operations but also owns a significant amount of the company’s stock (9% at last count, to be precise)…

“… insiders own roughly 22% of this company’s shares…”

OK, so that ticks a lot of the boxes that we know David Gardner and the Motley Fool folks are often looking for — passionate founder still in charge, large insider ownership, rapid growth, and, we’re told, it also has high gross margins (unlike Amazon) because it’s really more of a software/service provider that helps people create and support online stores.

So… hoodat? This is, sez the Thinkolator without even having to shift out of first gear, the little Canadian company Shopify (SHOP).

Shopify has been touted a couple times by the Motley Fool’s Canadian Stock Advisor publication (which is also still pitching it in ads today, though those ads really started running late last Spring) and, last Summer, by the US flagship Stock Advisor newsletter that’s run by both Gardner brothers.

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Shopify is indeed a founder-led software company that sells e-commerce and business management software, both to smaller businesses and to large corporations that have online stores as a side business (like the Bud Shop, where you can pick up your Budweiser flannel shirt or cowboy hat). And it does seem to have a great market position and brand power among small entrepreneurs — much like Square (SQ) does, where we see the power of branding as those little Square terminals might take over most of the cash registers in a small town (like mine) even though there are dozens of companies that provide a similar product service.

Shopify is doing well so far, as you may have noticed — the shares are up 150% or so over the last year, and it’s not profitable but it is growing revenue very quickly and maintaining a strong relationship with its customers. Online storefronts and business services (like inventory management, payment processing, etc.) are sticky businesses — it’s a pain in the arse to change from one provider to another, so as long as SHOP keeps at least on pace as one of the leaders (if not the absolute best or cheapest) they should have good customer retention.

It’s very much a “story” stock, there is huge revenue growth and there is potential to turn that revenue growth into substantial earnings at some point if they stop investing in the growth… but, like Amazon, they are not aiming for maximum profitability, they’re aiming to build the business.

That can lead to very lumpy stock movements as the actual bottom line results vary sharply (and the range of estimates is pretty wide as well), so this is one that you’d have to buy because you have faith in management to drive growth and you think they can hold off the many competitors — analysts are expecting the company to continue losing money this year and to make a small profit of 20 cents a share in 2018, so at 500X 2018 earnings forecasts it’s not a “buy this great PE ratio” stock, it’s a “buy the story” stock with a hope that it will dominate a large sector for years to come.

Will it? I have no idea. They do have a good partnership with Amazon to help their customers get into the Amazon marketplace, and their large cash hoard means they have no worries about financing or lack of flexibility (they have almost $1 billion in cash after equity offerings this year and last and the 2015 IPO, and they are close to being break-even on a cash basis right now so they can invest much more aggressively in growth if they have that desire and opportunity).

But I will leave you with that and let you research it for yourself — the company is no longer small… but it is arguably small enough (market cap now about $10 billion, roughly $500 million in annual revenue) and growing fast enough (50% annual revenue growth expected for the next couple years, after tripling revenue in the last two years) that there are ways to justify an investment… which does not, of course, mean that you should go in confident that Tobi Lütke is the next Jeff Bezos, or that the company will rise forever without hitting stumbling blocks or challenges along the way (certainly Amazon has had its share of troubles, despite that massive long-term return).

I get a little bit of confidence in the high insider ownership — Lütke as the founder and CEO does own roughly $790 million worth of SHOP shares, as the ad teases… and I suppose you can say that’s a “bet” on his company, since he’s not selling many of them (he does sell about a million dollars worth of shares a week), but he also didn’t buy them… like most smaller tech companies, SHOP never has any insider buying but gives lots of stock options and stock grants to employees and the board.

Those same Motley Fool ads used to say that “This 36-Year-Old CEO Is Betting $560,100,000 on 1 Stock” — he hasn’t increased his bet by $230 million, it’s just that his holdings have increased in value (actually, it’s probably over $790 million now — and he is over much entrenched as the leader of the company, with 60% ownership of the super-voting Class B shares that are owned by company insiders).

I also like the relatively long history and established customer and developer base using Shop’s foundation (Shopify has been around for more than a decade), and I like the scalability of some of Shopify’s services (like the payments processing, which gives them more exposure to the growth of their best customers), but I wouldn’t personally make big bets on the stock at this valuation… odds seem pretty good, given the small size and the varying analyst expectations and high level of attention SHOP has received recently (particularly after announcing their better integration with Amazon earlier this year), that there will probably be large stumbling points when harder to buy the stock, and that’s probably the smartest time to get on board if you otherwise love the story. For now, I hold my small stake and will watch for opportunities and see how the story develops.

That’s just my take, though — it’s your money, what do you think? Let us know with a comment below.

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Disclosure: I currently own shares of both Shopify and Amazon.com. I will not trade in any stocks mentioned for at least three days following publication of this article.

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gems10024
gems10024
April 6, 2017 3:03 pm

Greetings all,
I have my own products hosted on Shopify.
Also have my products on Amazon.
To compare the two, is day and night!
Amazon treats sellers as dirt, and at the same time trakes BIG bite out of all our sales.
Shopify, smartly charges monthly, with discount option for annual payment, and small processing fee.
Exceptional customer support, exceptional technical options and selections, exceptional processing of orders and payments.
They are growing rapidly in the eCommerce universe and even though I missed buying their stock, as a customer-user of their platform, I am very confident of their longevity and popularity.
They might not be immediate competition to AZ, but have tremendous appeal and numerous advantages to AZ.
My 2 cents

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jameshmwebb
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April 7, 2017 2:24 am
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That’s good to hear, gems10024. I bought SHOP in August last year, and they’re the best performing stocks in my portfolio. They’ve doubled in under eight months.

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Andrew
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April 6, 2017 11:13 pm

interesting info Travis, but don’t know about comparison, as far as foreign stocks are concerned financials seem to be settling down http://eqibeat.com/top-40-global-big-cap-adrs-dividend-yield-apr/

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Ahn Singet
April 7, 2017 4:52 pm

Maybe there’s a chance that Amazon may acquire it.

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dean
April 16, 2017 5:57 pm

Nice article.I like shop,have about 120 shares in a Roth waiting for a sell off to buy more shares.Looking to hold for 10-15 years.

Dianne Schumann
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Dianne Schumann
May 1, 2017 12:04 am

I used to love Motley Fool, but in recent years I have lost my respect. They regularly tout ‘the next big thing’ via a barrage of e-mails and click bait ads. aimed at the naive and desperate.

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Wayne
May 3, 2017 8:37 pm

I agree Dianne, but they do put out ideas for a person to research. Stock gumshoe is one of first go to sites for that.

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braisin-raisin
braisin-raisin
May 6, 2017 9:31 am

I knew about Shopify a few months ago and bought some shares. They have increased by 34% and have risen sharply in the last few days due to good sales figures (still not making a profit, though). I do not think it compares to Amazon at all but, for the moment, I am keeping them (I live in Europe). I have an online shop myself (ShopFactory – it is Australian and has been around since about 1995) and looked at shopify’s e-shop. However, it would be murderous to change and it is actually too expensive – ShopFactory gives a very similar service at a much reduced rate. So, I think Shopify is popular for new shop creators but it is nothing particularly new or different to many other online shop services. In my view, comparing Amazon to Shopify is like comparing pears with cheese – they are not comparable.

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Glenn Bre
May 12, 2017 9:13 pm

I know there is no “magic bullet” to getting wealthy fast. I however am a bit desperate at the moment. I need to make some REAL money in a relatively short period of time in order to help my sister. I am a nurse and make a decent living and as embarrassing this is to me I am truly desperate to become somewhat wealthy. I’m 50K in debt and until I can find a way to overcome that, I can’t start helping my sister by sending her money. I only have a little bit of cash to invest. I had considered a “gofund me” account but who would really understand me and help me? I stumbled on to this chat session I believe by divine intervention. All of you seem sincere, motivated and remarkably intelligent and I really value all of the advice on here. I will be completely candid. I have suffered from severe depression and was “Baker Acted” not long ago as a result. I knew while writing my “good bye” letter that I could never do to him what my mother did to me. I felt that I WAS WORTH MORE DEAD THAN ALIVE. I suppose technically that still holds true but my love for my 11 year old “mini me” is too strong. I know he needs me. I’m sure I will find a way to dig myself out. My sister is in serious financial difficulties and with the passing of my father (truly a great man) I feel it is my obligation to fill his shoes and help her and I suppose me too. PLEASE don’t make light of my posting. I am being as candid as possible. Who in their right mind would put all of this crap out there but I am. I know this is not the “DR. PHIL” show but I really NEED YOUR HELP and or ADVICE. If you have read this entire message then maybe you can relate to my situation? I imagine many will simply poke fun at me. I hope not because this is a sincere plea for your HELP. I don’t expect any of you ( I doubt you are billionaires) to send me money but ANY great Stock recommendations I’ll gladly accept. I am very real. My name is Glenn Bre and I live in Ruskin, Fl. I truly hope someone is out there that can help change my life and in turn my family. If you want to ask questions I will answer them. THANK YOU for at least reading this post.

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Ash
May 16, 2017 11:26 am
Reply to  Glenn Bre

Glenn

I read through your message and feel for you. Good on you for trying to get some help and set yourself on a straight path. I would advise you not to rely too much on information provided by random strangers on a message board 🙂
If you want to invest some money, you should look at it as a long-term process. Trying to predict highs and lows precisely enough to make a quick buck and get out is very risky.

Maybe you can start local and look around to see if there is anything you can supply in the local market and make a little bit of money at a time?
You can also check your local classifieds to see if there are any reputable clubs you can join up with that may help.

As far as stocks are concerned, set up a free mock trading account with google/yahoo and add some virtual stocks to your portfolio and see how they perform over time.

Don’t give up, keep trying to move ahead. But tread carefully and don’t jump into things until you have an understanding of what you are getting into and don’t fall for promises of quick money!

Cheers and all the best to you!

Glenn Bre
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Glenn Bre
May 16, 2017 12:12 pm
Reply to  Ash

Thank you so very much for your understanding and advice. I truly appreciate it. I hope this finds you blessed my friend.

Glenn Bre
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Glenn Bre
May 19, 2017 11:21 am
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I BELIEVE I FOUND A GEM! Would LOVE to get your opinions! SYMBOL – CPRX

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bmcdiaz
May 22, 2017 3:31 pm

I’m up over 100% over the last year. This stock is a sure winner. Earnings keep getting better each and every quarter.

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Glenn Bre
May 22, 2017 4:29 pm
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AWESOME!!!!!! I’m learning!

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Sharon brstslavsky
November 30, 2017 2:31 am
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Which stock are yiu syggesting here if i may ask

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Mike McFarren
June 2, 2017 6:35 am

As of this post SHOP is at $90. Seems like I got to the party way too late… Would you recommend still investing at this point?

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orokusaki
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orokusaki
July 14, 2017 1:33 pm

Long $SHOP, looking forward to a breakout about the 95-100 mark, then sky is the limit.

In the meantime, wanted to share this book I read recently, with you all. Very well put together I might say.

I am baffled how price action of stocks in international markets is such an accurate predictor of % move in local stock prices, that too half a day in advance due to the time difference! I am a big fan of price action trading and this one’s clearly a solid solid strategy and probably the simplest one yet to implement. Not sure many of us know about this

This will definitely blow you away…

https://gumroad.com/l/titan0346

“Simple price action trading strategy to unlock massive stock market profits”

cheers

I do not intend to put spoilers here, credit goes to the author of the book. Pl support the author if you’re interested or profitable.

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orokusaki
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July 17, 2017 7:53 pm
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Received $5 off code (gummytrade5off) for the book on gumroad (https://gumroad.com/l/titan0346) in email last night. Practically free, limited time.

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William Hooligan
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August 24, 2017 9:58 am

This one was way too easy 🙂 Come on Fool.

Having used Shopify as a developer, I think the platform is still very underrated in terms of what you can do with it when developers start building apps for the marketplace. Facebook did great with this of course.

I setup a Shopify store with a mate of mine who had some bricks and mortar hair salon. With fairly minimal weekend work we’ve got it up to around $500K/year revenue. Not bad for a half arsed commitment.

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chasingscott
September 1, 2017 4:30 pm

I bought a small position in SHOP mid-January from an off handed comment I saw in an article. Bought in at $48 and it’s now over $110. I’ll take that 130% gain any day! Wish I had more faith at the time 🙂

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kblyons46
kblyons46
September 2, 2017 12:59 am

actually, I think highly of the Motley Fool approach. They emphasize long term growth and always take pains to point out the risks as well as the prospects. Their recs don’t always pan out…of course not. But the approach is highly transparent and I find it very useful. And by the way I did buy some SHOP on their rec a while back, and I am still holding it, with good gains.

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braisin-raisin
braisin-raisin
September 2, 2017 7:54 am

I bought Shopify a few months ago – saw this same pitch ands worked out what it was – just a small position but when I found the price was was increasing, I added and my average gain is now 56%. Can’t complain. I won’t add to it though – have a trailing stop loss order so the profit doesn’t dissolve into nothing. I cannot see the comparison with Amazon – it is, after all, just an online shop and there are many really good ones on the market (I have had ShopFactory since 1998) and that is entirely different to the idea behind Amazon, where there is really no comparison with anything else. I think the hype about SHOP is good (at least for me) but it won’t last – investors will find another “hype”. I just don’t see SHOP as a viable long-term investment – the competition will catch up, even if changing from one online shop to another is difficult, to say the least. SHOP has not worked that one out either – I enquired with them but with over 5000 items in my shop, I will be darned if I do all that work again. So, should they find a way to just transfer one shop to theirs, then I think they will be way up front (until others work that one out too).

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Barefoot
September 2, 2017 3:09 pm

Its interesting that as the ad for the next Amazon still runs an article appears on the fool.ca titled “Why now may be time to take profits off the table with shopify inc” https://www.fool.ca/2017/08/25/why-now-may-be-the-time-to-take-profits-off-the-table-with-shopify-inc/

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Jim
September 3, 2017 9:08 am

I am a fairly new subscriber to Stock Gumshoe, really am impressed with the knowledge of so many investors here. My question, hope this is a good forum to ask, has anyone had any experience or researched Zacks “CounterStrike” program? It makes sense, but I am still an inexperienced investor trying to grow and learn. Thanks to all who contribute.

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Andrew
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September 4, 2017 7:34 am

interesting but i would rather look to up and comers in China than US or Canada, amazon has it by the b…ls – http://eqibeat.com/top-20-chinese-technology-stocks-by-market-cap-no-4/

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bfchmv
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September 22, 2017 3:28 pm

David Gardner just came out with a new pitch about apple’s secret interest in a company to help them come out with a self-driving car. What is your take on this, Travis?

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backoffice
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September 29, 2017 7:49 pm

You have to be kidding me! He leads you to believe he has a tip to buy a mid cap stock at $3.19 a share and is talking about Shopify?

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