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David Gardner’s “The Next Amazon.com” Stock

Motley Fool Rule Breakers teases: "Why this may be our second chance at banking an e-commerce fortune..."

Newer versions of the ad hint that "This 37-Year-Old CEO Is Betting $782,000,000 on 1 Stock"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, September 1, 2017


This article was originally published on January 12, 2017. I have updated my disclosures and the Irregulars Quick Take, and added some comments and number updates to update my thoughts on the stock, but many of the quotes are from the earlier version of the ad and not everything has been updated. The company being touted, Shopify, was just under $50 a share when this article first appeared, it is currently in the $110 neighborhood.

The Motley Fool has another sales pitch for their Rule Breakers newsletter service that has led a few readers to send questions our way, so it’s time for us to fire up the ol’ Thinkolator and see what it is that they’re hinting at.

Rule Breakers is the growth-focused “entry level” newsletter from the Motley Fool these days — as they’ve focused more on recruiting members for their hugely expensive Supernova and Motley Fool One and asset management and “get everything” products, most of what used to be their more exclusive newsletters (Hidden Gems, Rule Breakers, etc.) have drifted down in price to that key $49ish level where they can bring in new “never subscribed to anything before” customers (who then become the best candidates for their “upgrade to our better stuff” pitch in the months following their signup).

That’s what all publishers do, but it’s good to keep it in mind — in the Motley Fool’s case, the basic strategy seems to be that they do all the stock recommendations and analysis in the newsletters, and then do all the real portfolio allocation advice and more hands-on “service” in the pricier memberships. So at least they’re not pitching you a “secret” stock for this $49 service and then pitching a second “even more secret” stock for the $5,000 service the day after you sign up.

But most of you don’t care about that — what you’re wondering, I gather, is “what’s the stock?” Let’s look into some clues from the ad so we can get you an answer. First, the big picture promise of future riches:

“Two of the smartest (and most successful) investors I’ve ever met say that buying shares of this company today could be like going back in time and snapping up Amazon.com in 1997…

“Just before it shot up over 25,000% and made investors like you and me rich beyond their wildest dreams… turning every $10,000 invested into more than $2.5 million!”

It’s true that David Gardner recommended Amazon way back when it was a fresh new company that only sold books, before the dot-com crash… and that he rode it all the way to today, making it a fantastically incredible investment.

It’s also true that they’re a little free with the “next Amazon” comparisons in the marketing department at the Motley Fool… and that, like other growth stock services, they emphasize those few huge winners that any such service always has. Most growth stocks that they tease get the “next Netflix” or “like buying Priceline at $50” or the “looks a lot like Amazon in the early days” treatment as they try to remind you of Gardner’s past successes and, perhaps, gloss over the fact that it is typically a few blowout performers that bring up the average returns for the sometimes 100 or more stocks recommended by the newsletter… so you better buy all the stocks, or somehow pick the ones that will be huge winners instead of the ones that never take off.

One of David Gardner’s more recent heavily promoted “secret” ideas was Match Group (MTCH) last Spring, and that also got the “like buying Amazon in the 1990s” comparison (the stock is doing well since that recommendation, incidentally, up about 50%).

And this one also gets the “Netflix” mention from Eric Bleeker, the analyst who actually signs the recruiting letter (the Fool, probably wisely, has gotten away from having their stars, founders Dave and Tom Gardner, sign the heavily promotional teaser letters)…

“I haven’t been this excited about a stock since Netflix – which has delivered returns of 5455% to those who followed David’s December 2004 recommendation!”

But anyway… which specific one is being pitched today? Inquiring Gumshoe’s wanna know! Clues for you:

“… this one is still a relatively tiny company – meaning its biggest gains may well still be yet to come.

“In fact, it’s currently just 1/100th the size of Amazon, yet it is exhibiting the same kind of eye-popping numbers that have turned Amazon into arguably the greatest growth story of our generation.

“For instance, this company has…

  • Managed to grow the number of companies that sell goods on its websites from 84,000 in 2013 to well over 325,000 today (a 287% increase)…
  • Seen the value of merchandise sold across its platform soar from $1.7 billion to $9.8 billion in less than three years’ time (a 476% increase)…
  • And as a result, had its yearly revenues jump from just $23.7 million in 2012 to over $258.9 million so far this year (an incredible 992% increase!)…

“… like Amazon, this company was started by a brilliant and super passionate entrepreneur who set out to sell just a single category of goods online (in this case, snowboards, of all things)….

“… just like with Amazon, the founder of this company still not only leads its day-to-day operations but also owns a significant amount of the company’s stock (9% at last count, to be precise)…

“… insiders own roughly 22% of this company’s shares…”

OK, so that ticks a lot of the boxes that we know David Gardner and the Motley Fool folks are often looking for — passionate founder still in charge, large insider ownership, rapid growth, and, we’re told, it also has high gross margins (unlike Amazon) because it’s really more of a software/service provider that helps people create and support online stores.

So… hoodat? This is, sez the Thinkolator without even having to shift out of first gear, the little Canadian company Shopify (SHOP).

Shopify has been touted a couple times by the Motley Fool’s Canadian Stock Advisor publication (which is also still pitching it in ads today, though those ads really started running late last Spring) and, last Summer, by the US flagship Stock Advisor newsletter that’s run by both Gardner brothers.

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Shopify is indeed a founder-led software company that sells e-commerce and business management software, both to smaller businesses and to large corporations that have online stores as a side business (like the Bud Shop, where you can pick up your Budweiser flannel shirt or cowboy hat). And it does seem to have a great market position and brand power among small entrepreneurs — much like Square (SQ) does, where we see the power of branding as those little Square terminals might take over most of the cash registers in a small town (like mine) even though there are dozens of companies that provide a similar product service.

Shopify is doing well so far, as you may have noticed — the shares are up 150% or so over the last year, and it’s not profitable but it is growing revenue very quickly and maintaining a strong relationship with its customers. Online storefronts and business services (like inventory management, payment processing, etc.) are sticky businesses — it’s a pain in the arse to change from one provider to another, so as long as SHOP keeps at least on pace as one of the leaders (if not the absolute best or cheapest) they should have good customer retention.

It’s very much a “story” stock, there is huge revenue growth and there is potential to turn that revenue growth into substantial earnings at some point if they stop investing in the growth… but, like Amazon, they are not aiming for maximum profitability, they’re aiming to build the business.

That can lead to very lumpy stock movements as the actual bottom line results vary sharply (and the range of estimates is pretty wide as well), so this is one that you’d have to buy because you have faith in management to drive growth and you think they can hold off the many competitors — analysts are expecting the company to continue losing money this year and to make a small profit of 20 cents a share in 2018, so at 500X 2018 earnings forecasts it’s not a “buy this great PE ratio” stock, it’s a “buy the story” stock with a hope that it will dominate a large sector for years to come.

Will it? I have no idea. They do have a good partnership with Amazon to help their customers get into the Amazon marketplace, and their large cash hoard means they have no worries about financing or lack of flexibility (they have almost $1 billion in cash after equity offerings this year and last and the 2015 IPO, and they are close to being break-even on a cash basis right now so they can invest much more aggressively in growth if they have that desire and opportunity).

But I will leave you with that and let you research it for yourself — the company is no longer small… but it is arguably small enough (market cap now about $10 billion, roughly $500 million in annual revenue) and growing fast enough (50% annual revenue growth expected for the next couple years, after tripling revenue in the last two years) that there are ways to justify an investment… which does not, of course, mean that you should go in confident that Tobi Lütke is the next Jeff Bezos, or that the company will rise forever without hitting stumbling blocks or challenges along the way (certainly Amazon has had its share of troubles, despite that massive long-term return).

I get a little bit of confidence in the high insider ownership — Lütke as the founder and CEO does own roughly $790 million worth of SHOP shares, as the ad teases… and I suppose you can say that’s a “bet” on his company, since he’s not selling many of them (he does sell about a million dollars worth of shares a week), but he also didn’t buy them… like most smaller tech companies, SHOP never has any insider buying but gives lots of stock options and stock grants to employees and the board.

Those same Motley Fool ads used to say that “This 36-Year-Old CEO Is Betting $560,100,000 on 1 Stock” — he hasn’t increased his bet by $230 million, it’s just that his holdings have increased in value (actually, it’s probably over $790 million now — and he is over much entrenched as the leader of the company, with 60% ownership of the super-voting Class B shares that are owned by company insiders).

I also like the relatively long history and established customer and developer base using Shop’s foundation (Shopify has been around for more than a decade), and I like the scalability of some of Shopify’s services (like the payments processing, which gives them more exposure to the growth of their best customers), but I wouldn’t personally make big bets on the stock at this valuation… odds seem pretty good, given the small size and the varying analyst expectations and high level of attention SHOP has received recently (particularly after announcing their better integration with Amazon earlier this year), that there will probably be large stumbling points when harder to buy the stock, and that’s probably the smartest time to get on board if you otherwise love the story. For now, I hold my small stake and will watch for opportunities and see how the story develops.

That’s just my take, though — it’s your money, what do you think? Let us know with a comment below.

P.S. Have you ever subscribed to Motley Fool Rule Breakers? Click here to let your fellow investors know what you thought. Thanks for sharing your opinions!

Disclosure: I currently own shares of both Shopify and Amazon.com. I will not trade in any stocks mentioned for at least three days following publication of this article.

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ctnice
October 4, 2017 4:13 pm

Getting crushed today. Thoughts anyone?

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bezoomny
bezoomny
October 5, 2017 3:01 am

Long $SHOP
His main criticism is they use affiliate marketing to gain customers? That’s just standard practice for startups. He compares them to herbalife, yet they don’t provide product, just an easy way to make an ecomerce store. He complains they make less from subscriptions than merchant fees yet their revenue continues to grow year on year. This revenue is also coming from these smaller 450,000 stores that he claims are the hidden dark side. Overall a pretty rambling incoherent article.

How does a guy like this have so much influence?

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ctnice
October 5, 2017 1:06 pm

Seems like hanging tight is the plan for most?

msanghadia
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msanghadia
October 5, 2017 2:24 pm

Went through my stop loss and sold all,,,but it is now back up a bit.. Unsure what to do at the moment.

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orokusaki
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orokusaki
October 5, 2017 10:15 pm
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onebadinvestor
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onebadinvestor
November 9, 2017 10:06 pm

Thanks for the research. I’ve been following Motley Fool since 1993 and never followed their advice. Yep!…stubborn. I did purchase 100 shares of NVDA two years ago after watching their video though. And after a few months of it doing nothing. I sold those and forgot about the NVDA. Yea you guess it. I’m kicking myself daily. But one stock that is following the same pattern of NVDA today is SQ. I’m serious! Compare their 3-month stock graphs. 6-month. One-year. Just about identical. I’d love to read your research about Square to counter my belief. Thanks again!

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jbkjb
November 17, 2017 1:52 am

mmm

Brendan O'Brien
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Brendan O'Brien
December 20, 2017 7:36 pm

What is David Gardner’s latest stock pick (crypto – based) ?

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Nick
January 4, 2018 2:52 am

Interesting and important to note that Shopify is heavily advertised and promoted on the Motley Fool Money weekly podcast.

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carl88mgal
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January 12, 2018 5:10 am

I purchased amazon at $8.00 per share. I still own the stock, but it isn’t because of the Motley Fool gang. David Gardner is very good, but the majority of the time you are handed down advice from some new analyst. Gumshoe helps an investor to know who you can trust. I hope shop is the next amazon because I own some of that stock; however, I receive my advice by following basic investment rules, while letting Gumshoe weed out those who try to peddle their garbage hoping someone will be desperate enough to bite. Paying $3,000 and up for a service from PM is not the way you help out “main street Americans.”

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gjosiban
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January 28, 2018 4:13 pm

“..odds seem pretty good, given the small size and the varying analyst expectations and high level of attention SHOP has received recently… that there will probably be large stumbling points when harder to buy the stock, and that’s probably the smartest time to get on board if you otherwise love the story. ”

What in the world does “when harder to buy the stock” mean?

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graceauteri
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February 8, 2018 4:43 pm

Hi Travis,

what do you think of QUALSRTAR (QBAK)
Many thanks,
Grace

thanethebrain
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thanethebrain
February 16, 2018 3:46 pm

I hopped on SHOP when first discussed here on Gumshoe! Thanks for the tip, Travis. It’s been on a good ride.

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yukonjack
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yukonjack
February 16, 2018 4:19 pm

I wonder if any of these gurus ever get it wrong and your investment tanks 80% or more? If you ever get any recos from Doug Casey and friends, you get a new buy of something or other every week. It’s like they are all going up 1,000-10,000% very quickly and all you gotta do is buy our newsletters and become a millionaire with a few bucks. Maybe SHOP is the next AMZN, but it’s going to take another 10-15 years to find out. The big problem with holding for decades is that unless you have been fortunate to pick the right stock(s), you will waste precious time and valuable capital.

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jillsami
February 16, 2018 5:13 pm
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Shopify is a good stock to buy, but I don’t see it ever being another Amazon.
Travis’s article written 9/1/2017 said 22% of insiders owned stock in the company, but according to what I just read on ‘gurufocus’ it’s now 0.00%.

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jjjohnnyq
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jjjohnnyq
February 17, 2018 2:27 pm
Reply to  jillsami

what is gurufocus? thx!

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Bill
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Bill
March 19, 2018 6:49 am
Reply to  jjjohnnyq

Why wouldn’t you type this exact question into google?

Derek McLellan
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Derek McLellan
December 20, 2018 9:53 am
Reply to  yukonjack

Hey Doug, Yes you are right, those “gurus” sometimes get it wrong, but more often get it right. For example, I bought Seadrill, which built oil drilling platforms mostly for the Gulf of Mexico. It went bankrupt and I lost 100% of my money. However, I also bought Netflix and Nvidia on their recommendation, and before the recent correction Netflix had risen past 6500% and Nvidia over 1600%. You don’t know which ones will be stars and which ones will be lemons so you diversify–plain and simple.

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Deneisha Cook
February 18, 2019 3:15 pm
Reply to  Derek McLellan

Hi Derek, do you mind sharing websites and articles you read by the gurus?

jeffreyl
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April 8, 2019 1:07 pm
Reply to  Deneisha Cook

deneisha, your not paying attention.

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Britt
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Britt
February 16, 2018 5:55 pm

I got sucked into Rule Breakers and signed up for three years worth for $149. And yes, I’ve been swarmed with pitches for their other products, none of which I want to pay for. One year in, what I’ve noticed is most of the names they’ve touted are already way up. Momentum investors are they? What really irked me is the last report I got dated 2/14 included an article on iRobot dated 2/8. I was already interested in IRBT after their big fall. If Rule Breakers had provided me their input on 2/8 when they wrote it, maybe I would have been more likely to buy the shares before their little recovery this past week. Does anybody make picks before they pop anymore?

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razkeys
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February 17, 2018 12:17 am
Reply to  Britt

exactly

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Chuck Morgan
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Chuck Morgan
February 17, 2018 6:28 pm
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I have been mostly satisfied with The Oxford Club. They are usually way out front

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Frank
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Frank
February 18, 2018 10:11 am

Travis, I bought SHOP a while back when it was in the $40 range, took a profit of over 35 %. Recently I bought again @ $91 and $103. Despite recent litigation news ,
Fridays close was above $137! I’m all smiles!

Lorne
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February 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Shopify just got a big bump up as they have been awarded the contract by the Ontario government to market online cannabis sales for the Ontario Liquor Control Board (the Ontario government liquor retail monopoly and soon to be cannabis monopoly) in Ontario, Canada’s largest province.

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Winchel Hamersted
February 19, 2018 8:02 am

TEUM…internet of things play. You’d be ahead of the curve by buying TEUM before the FOOL picks it up. They’re supper stoked about the Internet of Things. (IOT)

Nick
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Nick
May 7, 2018 4:19 pm

Still holding on to TEUM?

Craig Glendower Llewelyn
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Craig Glendower Llewelyn
February 21, 2018 4:22 pm

Mr Gardner, Has it ever dawned upon you that like the “noisy “guy in the seat behind you at the movies some times they become a pain in the ass. You thrust your self upon consumers bu offering some far fetched scam to get rich and you do so by having your terrible commercials interfear with the publics desire to read some thing else . Like “Little child fall in well help is on the way MOTLEY FOOL ! STUPID

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Clarita Woodley
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June 16, 2018 12:23 pm

I would like to buy stock but do not know where and how to begin

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dacstevenson
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dacstevenson
July 3, 2018 7:05 pm

Go to Ameritrade.com and set up an account. Watch their tutorial.

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Sata
July 10, 2018 7:23 pm

I am already member of fool stock advisor. I see it is beneficial and made some money.

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