David Gardner’s “Like Grabbing up more AAPL… Years Ago” Supernova Stock

When I first started Stock Gumshoe, the teaser ads from the Motley Fool were part of the inspiration — I saw those pitches (at the time it was buying the stock that looks like the “next Dell” or buying the “New American Superbrand” that’s shaking up the retail landscape), and I wanted to know what they were talking about. So I started writing about it. It wasn’t just the Fool, obviously — Louis Navellier and Porter Stansberry and many others were doing these same heavy-handed pitches about “secret” stocks, but I probably wrote about more Motley Fool stocks in those first couple years than any other. And a lot of them turned out pretty well — those two examples are Netflix (NFLX) and Whole Foods (WFM now, was WFMI then), from 2007… NFLX has been the best teaser pick ever ID’d here, with a 3,500% gain (so of course, it’s a stock I’ve never owned), WFM was much more tepid but now stands at about a 100% gain from that first “New American Superbrand” teaser push in late 2006.

But their teaser production has died down quite a bit, it seems to me — they’ve been re-running the same ads for such long periods of time that I rarely get a new one to sink my teeth into. The pitches about the “mobile phone that will kill Visa and Mastercard” for NXPI and the “Death of Cable” for a few content producers and the “Death of the Internet” or “Time Machine” spiels for the “Internet of Things” stocks like SWIR have all been running, off and on, for at least a couple years with little change.

So while today’s teaser comes with but one fairly innocuous hint, I felt compelled to dive in… and yes, they are making plenty of big picture promises about just how awesome this stock might be.

The service they’re advertising is one of their expensive portfolio-direction services, which has been the wave for the Motley Fool for a while — they use the lower-priced stock picking newsletters, like their flagship Stock Advisor, to bring folks in the door… then, once you’re on board, they push the much more expensive services like Supernova or Million Dollar Portfolio that provide model portfolios and specific allocation advice (like, put 5% of your portfolio into Netflix, 3% into Tesla, 5% into Disney, etc.), or Motley Fool One that I think includes actual financial advisor consultations and Tom Gardner’s “Everlasting Portfolio,” or lifetime access to research, or other premium stuff. To a large extent this is just the Motley Fool making the step to join the other newsletter publishers, who have long realized that the real money is made by “funneling” customers through a basic membership level and up to the top tiers, and that the best customer for a $5,000 service is the one who just got a great stock pick from your $49 service.

Which is why I have launched the Stock Gumshoe Super-Irregular Gold Alliance Club, whereby you get not only the work of our guest columnists and everything I write, including copies of my personal emails to friends and family and my periodic musings about the fate of the Detroit Lions or the Cornell hockey team, but you also get to stop by for a beer on every ninth Thursday. Possibly including some crackers and cheese, or peanuts (though those aren’t guaranteed, you understand). And depending on my shopping habits that week, you might have to bring the beer.

This is obviously a $50,000 value, but is currently available for a limited time for only $38,999.00 a year. And, of course, I wouldn’t be so crass as to accept US dollars, which we all know are irrelevant paper and will be defunct by October of 2015 (or December 2005, or January of 2011, or March of 2013, or… well, it depends on who you ask, and whether their memory is very good), so you can make your annual payment via a personal delivery of 32 ounces of gold. Actually, better have some disinterested party deliver the gold for you. Miranda Kerr is probably a good choice.

Sorry, back on point (and yes, for the humor-impaired, I’m joking)… so, what’s the Fool pitching now?

Well, they’re selling Supernova, which costs $1,999 a year, and the headline spiel is:

“Led by legendary stock picker David Gardner (who’s identified 19 stocks that have gone up 10x or more in value since 2002), you’re invited to:

“See the “next big thing” with the eyes of a venture capitalist and invest in it before it happens…

“Manage your portfolio with the skill and confidence of a world-class money manager…

“Have a blast inside one of the most successful and fun-loving networks of committed growth investors on the planet; and at long last…

“Climb aboard Motley Fool Supernova before it closes to new members for the year!”

And what’s the bit about this being like buying Apple years ago? They at least imply that they’re comparing the current opportunity to their suggestion that you buy AAPL a couple times….

“First, let’s consider Apple. Many of us own it in our personal portfolios. And all of us know it’s been one of the best-performing stocks over the past several years…

“But what if you knew the best times to add to your position along the way? And just how large of a position to own in your portfolio?

“The Phoenix team knew. They manage one of our real-money portfolios in Supernova — a portfolio that could be particularly well suited to you if you’re closer to retirement…

“They bought and added to their Apple position four times. At one point recommending it as a 10% position in members’ portfolios. And while the first position was profitable for investors, it was the back-to-back “double downs” that delivered the big returns.”

Those purchases were around $70-80ish back in 2012 (split adjusted) and then the “double downs” were when it was in the $60 neighborhood in 2013. Not much to argue about with those, it obviously worked out well and I also owned Apple through those buys (and bought more at similar prices), though I have paid more and less for my position (I first bought around $50, at the short-term peak I paid around $90).

The other examples they use are Netflix (NFLX), which apparently the first “launch” of Supernova picked in early 2012 (both Gardners picked and teased it many times before that, for the Stock Advisor newsletter)… and Tesla (TSLA), which provides the lead-in to the “secret” Supernova stock they’re hinting at today….

“Like when we scooped up shares of Tesla Motors in early 2012. Before the Model S had a full production run. Then, in 2013, after the Model S began winning awards and Tesla reported its first quarter of profitability, Odyssey bought Tesla AGAIN:

“Supernova Members Invest Like Venture Capitalists — Which Sometimes Means Backing an Innovative Leader

“And if you think that sounds pretty darn interesting, here’s something else I expect will float your boat: David Gardner has just advised the Odyssey 1 team to DOUBLE the position in one small company…

“A little dynamo deftly staking its claim in an exploding industry, operating lucrative websites in 30 countries and 21 languages…

“And I’d like nothing more than to tell you all the details. Including how much of your portfolio to dedicate to this position, and how much you could expect to make if it takes off!”

So who is that “little dynamo?” You won’t get any more clues, I’m afraid… but I’m pretty sure the Thinkolator is up to the task, and when I revved it a little extra this morning it gave us a solid answer: This is very likely TripAdvisor (TRIP).

TripAdvisor now operates in 45 countries and in 28 languages, so that hint is no longer accurate — but for a while the “30 countries and 21 languages” was their PR tagline on press releases, back in 2012 or so when those numbers were accurate, and I suspect the Fool is still using those numbers in their ads… whether to be misleading or just because that was in their initial recommendation of the stock, I don’t know.

You probably know TripAdvisor, and may have even used it. I know I have — it’s the world’s largest travel site (collection of travel sites, really), with a phenomenal store of information that has essentially replaced the well-work Fodor’s guides that many of us would have consulted a decade ago before embarking on a trip, and it is both the blessing and bane of anyone who operates a tourist business… it’s where you’ll find the rankings of hotels and attractions for any city, and the reviews from travelers who visited those places or stayed in those hotels, including those hotel stays or restaurant meals that were not happy and successful. While Priceline is probably the dominant merchant for travel, TripAdvisor is the dominant advertising spot and social media hub for travelers… and they also do provide bookings on the site for travel both directly and through a variety of partners.

TRIP is an interesting company — they have a phenomenal “network effect” propelling their traffic growth, since they have by far the most reviews and the most thoroughly vetted collection of reviews about thousands of hotels, vacation spots and other attractions, people use them the most… and since people use them the most, that’s the only place to submit a review if you want other travelers to actually see it. That network effect is their “special sauce”, and it’s all based on the utility and convenience of their site in researching travel and on the community that has been created. And that, in turn, is the base of their profitability, since you have hundreds of millions of people visiting the site who are planning to spend a substantial amount of money on travel in the near future — indeed, who are actively shopping for or booking travel. Those people are, it’s no leap to assert, the most valuable people for a hotel chain, or an airline, or a vacation destination, to reach, and they pay up for that and make TripAdvisor’s advertising business quite lucrative.

It’s also an expensive stock — you have to be able to look out into the future and see them continuing to build the business at a rapid pace to be able to convince yourself to pay 25X 2016 earnings estimates for your little slice of this company, particularly since trailing earnings growth has only been in the 10-15% area annually and TRIP does not have a history of “blowing out” the earnings estimates. There’s a lot to like even aside from the obviously valuable business relationships and irreplaceable review data they own, particularly the substantial insider ownership (including by John Malone through part of his Liberty octopus of companies, as well as by real insiders and the founders of the company), and they’ve certainly done a good job of improving and personalizing the site over the years.

And while there’s certainly ample space for them to grow as they increase their direct bookings business and grow into more countries, and as more consumers find and fall in love with their products, there’s also plenty of risk — they rely on their biggest advertising partners, like Priceline and Expedia, for a huge portion of their revenue; they’re an advertising business that’s doing a good job with the transition from desktop to mobile, but mobile ads are still substantially less lucrative than desktop ones; and though their big database of reviews is almost impossible to replace, there is plenty of competition for organic “travel” keyword traffic (incoming traffic that they don’t pay for through Google search ads)… particularly with Google making noises about getting more directly involved in travel information…. so they may end up having to pay more for traffic to get new customers in the door, which could depress margins. That may already be happening, with profit margins dipping down to the 16-17% neighborhood as costs have come up in general over the years — several years ago that number approached 30%.

I’ve actually considered buying TRIP on this recent dip, both a few months ago and more recently, as the trailing PE came down from 75 to 50 and the share price has come down from well over $100 at the peak to about $75 now (it dipped even lower before the last earnings release), but I haven’t ever actually made the buy. It’s a phenomenally valuable brand with very solid growth, and a great “network effect” social advertising business, it’s still fairly small relative to the global travel industry with a market cap of about $10 billion, and I probably should own it for many of the same reasons that I own Facebook shares (data is valuable, the more personal the better), but the valuation is certainly sobering and the growth is not quite high enough to make me want to jump without lots of hemming and hawing… at this valuation, you don’t get a lot of margin for error.

The risks of large customer relationships with partial competitors in Priceline and Expedia make me more nervous than anything else, but the value of their collected review database and their deep reservoir of “big data” about traveler preferences is probably enough to swing me over to the “thumbs up” side on this one… even if the trailing numbers (ie, the “real” numbers, not the analysts forecasts of the future) — 50X earnings for a company growing their earnings at only 13% a year — makes me grind my teeth a little bit. At the same time, there’s a great comfort in the huge top-line growth — in an era of manufactured earnings and cost cutting they’ve just about doubled sales in two years. I don’t own it, but maybe I will someday — I’ll let you know if I jump in (it wouldn’t be for at least three days, per my trading restrictions).

(And for disclosure’s sake, as long as I’m mentioning what I own, I should clarify that I do own Apple, Facebook and Google shares, I don’t own any of the other stocks mentioned above — and won’t trade any of them for at least three days).


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chibana
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chibana

Travis,
Superb article as always. I utilize Motley Fool’s Stock Advisor. Seems their Super Nova is always offering me a slot before membership closes. 🙂 Guess I’m a little surprised that TRIP is the one they are promoting since that is also one of their top 10 current picks which I can see as a basic member (along with PCLN). TRIP seems more attractive than PCLN. If I recall they were really pumping PCLN last year but their strategy is always buy and hold long term.
V/R
Tom

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Tom M

I also have been in (and am still in) several MF services and have exited a few. I currently get SA free along with other services, but I don’t care for it one bit. They bill themselves as an “ideas” service and never give any valuation info … no PE, no PEG, no earnings talk, no nuttin. They wax on about how great the company is positioned, but without some discussion about the proper entry point such as when shares are overbought (discussions such as the ones Travis provides) I don’t jump. Of course we can (ans should) do our… Read more »

goldseal5050
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goldseal5050

Travis
Great Post….I use stock advisor and rule your retirement. Of all the news letters,I believe the Motley Fool is one of the most credible out there.That being said,with the constant ”harassment” regarding super nova and how wonderful it would be to give the Gardner boys a cool grand to join them in receiving Super Nova…..(holy expensive advice batman) I believe they have been sounding more like Hucksters than investment givers from time to time. Having said that,I still believe the Motley Fool is still one of the best around.

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gummydave
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gummydave

I think 40 years of Stockgumshoe subscription would be a better deal for my $1,999 🙂
I love the discussion boards on the Motley Fool and have subscribed to some of their paid services in the past. Stock Advisor was fairly good, but you really have to buy all the recommendations to match their performance and that’s not really practical for most of us.

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chibana
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chibana

Travis,
200 looks about right although they also show every time they recommend a stock for a second and subsequent time. Oldest entry I can see is from April 2002.
V/R
Tom

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fabian
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fabian

I was a subscriber to their dividend letter and stopped when the list was above 50 stocks. You end up stock picking the stock picker. I now subscribe to their Canadian letter, the list is fairly manageable and they give you their best US picks with it. They also have an AUS dividend letter, but most of the stocks are local, difficult to buy with your broker and a UK letter I may subscribe to. I like CAN and UK stocks but it’s not obvious to get relevant information about these stocks, unless these are the big blue chips

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billcole
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Interesting, but not to the point of pulling the “BUY” trigger

DBMD
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DBMD

From a user side of TripAdvisor or Flipkey, I like the recommendations, but as a property owner I prefer VRBO. There are some inefficiencies in the system because it is so large, but that is what gives the best ratings. The ratings are for free, aside from advertising, but the bookings need to be better for revenu. No postion in TRIP. Thanks Travis.

Chris Sartore
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What is VRBO as I do not find this as a ticker symbol? Thanks

Plymouth
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Plymouth

It is vacation rentals by owner. From Yahoo! : HomeAway, Inc. (AWAY) together with its subsidiaries, operates an online vacation rental property marketplace that enables property owners and managers to market properties for rental to vacation travelers. The company’s portfolio includes vacation rental Websites, such as HomeAway.com, VRBO.com, and VacationRentals.com in the United States; HomeAway.co.uk and OwnersDirect.co.uk in the United Kingdom…

greenfire67
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I also just started using VRBO. So far so good!

hedy1234
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hedy1234

Will you accept Bit Coin if I bring the beer??

R. OBryan
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I too receive the standard Motley Fool newsletter, and I think it’s a good value. I am, however, getting a little miffed at the strong upselling they are engaging in. The “Supernova” is the latest “limited time” offer that never seems to expire. “Last chance before the door slams shut” is typical. They fail to mention that it’s the last chance…..until tomorrow, when you’ll get another “last chance”. Why not just just give us the good advice with the regular membership? Why are they holding back? Kinda makes me question whether I should be staying with them………

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jfenlin
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jfenlin

Very witty stuff Travis.
The Fools have SWIR so wrong
Watch out for Penn State Hockey, just a matter of time (as a former Penn State Wrestler I must say that Cornell coach Rob Koll almost singlehandedly revived Ivy Wrestling) Didn’t hurt that some former Cornell Wrestlers were senior partners at Goldman Sachs and highly successful hedge fund guys.

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dcohn
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Well when the fools first suggested SWIR I bought it and I doubled my money in several months I believe. I got out though before it died completely as they want you to hold everything forever. I figured take my original money out and then leave the rest something Stansberry always seems to push.

chibana
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chibana

dcohn. $SWIR and $WETF were both MF recommendations that I had nice positions in last year. I got impatient with $SWIR and sold at a tiny profit before the big run up. I did much better with $WETF but also sold to early and only made a modest profit. Even with the recent pull back with $SWIR had I simply held I would be up 50% and about the same for $WETF which of course is their philosophy. I put my toe back in the water last week briefly with $SWIR but got out quickly when I realized a firm… Read more »

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D

Have TMF Inside Value, their best performer. Fairly happy with it. But — the universe of “value” has shrunk in the last 3.5 years as stocks have generally entered a new bubble era of overvaluation. There are some pickings out there in energy etc.

The most expensive services from TMF are getting into separately managed accounts that they manage for you. If they can make significant inroads there, they’ve hit the jackpot. It’s still a great outfit, but not scrappy upstart of the 1990s. They never fully recovered from the tech crash.

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Jason Ramage

Very true. Moving the message boards behind a paid wall was their “jump the shark” moment. Back around that time, one of the two Gardners was kind of enough to hear me out in a thread where I questioned why they would switch gears from scrappy-upstart-helping-the-regular-investor to slick-newsletter-promoter, as I felt the Fool shouldn’t have to stoop to the level of late night telemarketing gimmicks. His response boiled down to “this is what works,” only reinforcing in my mind that they were consciously selling the soul of what made them interesting in the first place. Alas, only my two cents,… Read more »

Blind Guide
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Blind Guide

I am SOO excited about your new ‘flagship service’…when/where do I sign up…pls advise!!

PS – I prefer west coast IPAs

bj
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Will that new SUPER GOOD “flagship service” (MUST BE, it’s SO EXPENSIVE!) be as good for us as Ron Paul’s latest advice on the internet!!!???

bajapete
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bajapete

Last June Trip’s high was 111 and over the last year it has fell 1/3 to 75 as of today. Nice if your into catching a falling knife.

Jon
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Jon

I own TRIP @ about $68. I think it’s a good product, well run company, lots of potential. P/e at 50 does make me nervous but I think because of how big their moat is with their reviews the long term play will pan out well. Might get bumpy though. Thankfully I’m Irish so I’m used to bumpy rides!

Illuminati Investments
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Are you sure this isn’t YELP? According to their official blog, they’re now in 31 “countries” (30 if you count Hong Kong/Taiwan as China) and 21 languages if I’m counting right:

http://officialblog.yelp.com/2015/06/index.html

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I’ve never subscribed to anything on Fool, and it sounds like I should be glad that I didn’t need to hear pitches for more expensive services. I have very much enjoyed Gumshoe’s coverage of the fool. I created Supernova in Motif with their 16 stocks they pitched and got down to final 4. Market was too high, so I didn’t jump in, but Motif is up 20% since I created it. (Dang… should’ve invested). But I’ve often wondered if I invested a small amount in all their stocks how my performance would be. Seems to me the few big winners… Read more »

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Susan V L

Great article…and made me laugh, too. Thank you.

hendrixnuzzles
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Travis…I was wondering when you would get the newsletter disease. You have a very resistant constitution.

Thanks for Stock Gumshoe, it’s such a rare experience get more value than one pays for.

You have made waiting for the End of Western Civilization much more enjoyable, and
when The Crash That Will Destroy the American Way of Life arrives, I am confident that the stocks I find here will only tank 50%, instead of 75% like the rest of them.

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Walter Schwager
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Walter Schwager

You might want to have a look at a Canadian advisory site, 5iresearch.ca, mainly covering Canadian small and midcaps not covered by the usual analysts. For around Can$150 a year it will answer your questions on companies such as PHM, ACQ, AYA, and so on. 5i also publishes research reports and has a number of model portfolios. Not as much fun as Dr KSS, but cheap and profitable. Will also answer questions about US companies, BTW.

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Kris Tuttle
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TRIP isn’t a bad idea in this era of ever-expanding market capitalizations and valuations, or at least so it seems. If TRIP continues to be able to use their reviews to aggregate more traffic and get it to “convert” into reservations, tickets or what have you then they should grow nicely and ultimately be an irresistible acquisition target for someone like PCLN.
No position but I’m going to look into something with covered calls. It’s a volatile stock to selling calls might be a good strategy in owning the shares. I have one account where I do that sort of thing.

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dcohn
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TripAdvisor is in their lower end offering now as well I believe. I can swear I saw it yesterday on their rule breakers or stick advisor

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dcohn
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Yes TripAdvisor is in SA and RB, their two low end services.

dcohn
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HMM don’t buy it anything on my word. I am not sure it is even Wednesday

seretha reid
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Just got mesmerized by MFSA ads and video. Decided to check around, and stumbled upon your site. what a riot…I haven’t laughed so hard since I watched the midget commedian named Brad ____ Oh u get the picture. I will be sure to check in regularly…But what is this Super Tech stock that is suppose to have car insurance COs up in arms???

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Gr8Full!
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MBLY – seretha reid appx 46 2 50.74 close since 6/8 a.m. Best-Ben

Chris Sartore
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I recently shorted YELP and did make some money. Was initially concerned as when I first shorted it, YELP jumped over $2 a share. But then it has been on a slow decline since. Decided to not be so greedy so covered and made a modest profit. Agree I doubt this is a recent promotion for YELP and feel TRIP is much more likely. Will place TRIP in my watch list. Thanks, Travis, I continue to enjoy reading your Gum Shoe posts.

Kevin A
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Kevin A

Good article…I had to look up Miranda Kerr…I think I need to get out more!

GKN
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GKN

I don’t like MF’s political commentary so I won’t spend a dime with them. Glad to read their free stuff, but there are plenty of other reach out there without the BS.

eddie036
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eddie036

I trade with Fid. and am able to have many watch lists. I often populate them with pretend buys when I want to scope out various recommendations or portfolios. These lists update daily and display a G/L column giving me an idea of what they are doing. I have found that usually the recommended basket of stocks never make a gain as a total group. My latest decent buy using this method has been AMBA.

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jtkacc
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I’m new to this just joined this service.I know your talking about a couple of travel
sites.I do a lot of travel all of the americas etc. My point is i have never found better prices
by far than hotwire not even close. Who owns hotwire? I have personally saved ten’s of
thousands.

Gr8Full!
Member

Alan, Welcome to stockgumshoe.com Hotwire, Inc is a private company:
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=520308
Best2Ya-Ben

hedy1234
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hedy1234

Nope Ben

Hotwire is owned by Expedia which is a listed company.

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Gr8Full!
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Thanks Howard, I stand corrected. I was looking at the bottom of hotwire.com website and saw Hotwire, Inc. and grabbed the Bloomberg link. Here’s the Wiki link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotwire.com Best2Ya-Ben

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wonderphil

Alan, I have also used Hotwire a lot in the past and still do occasionally. I have also saved lots of money with it. Many times I don’t like the Hotel I end up with. Sometimes you can sort of do a gumshoe thing and figure out what Hotel you are going to get by researching the clues. Because I like to know in advance what Hotel I am getting, most of the time I just use Priceline, the hotel web sites directly or Expedia. Most of these travel sites (and travel search engines) are owned by a very few… Read more »

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carroll richard
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carroll richard

I was going to sub to r service for $38,999 but since u gave the tip free,I’ll save my money…thx

FRANK
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FRANK

Wonderful new service you’re offering, do you have any ultra 10x ETFs to recommend?

FRANKLIN
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I use buy teasers (before I discovered GUMSHOE) Never was 100% happy with the results. I would never pay BIG MONEY for a stock newsletter. My advise, for what its worth, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, AND LEARN FROM TRAVIS. GUMSHOE IRREGULARS, BEST MONEY I HAVE EVER SPENT.

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Harry
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Well, unless I’m off in left field, I think they’re talking about a split in Netfix. Maybe 5-1split
They said that they talked to the owners if the stock and the obviously thought it was cool!
They said they were going to issue an enormous
Amount of stock. I didn’t catch all of it, or maybe
They’re merging or buying something!

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cloud3
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I’m new to Gumshoe and wish I had discovered it earlier. There is so much stuff out there promoting investment advisory services so it good to have a place that sorts through all the “chaff”. Motley Fool is one such service that I have used over the years off and on. I get hooked on a new one, get frustrated and don’t renew and then pick up another one later. I currently have Stock Advisor and I think it will be my last. My biggest issue is that they heavily promote the winners and don’t tell you about the loosers.… Read more »

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fedwatcher
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fedwatcher

TRIP could well be a great buy, however it is a rehash of previous Motley Fool picks. I think services like Motley Fool see that the retail investor is hunkering down into cash due to the uncertainty ahead. These services all depend on selling news letters to the retail investor and are hurting big time and are desperate for high priced worthless subscriptions. This is DESPERATION pure and simple. They are all in the same sinking ship as their business model is failing. After a reasonable “correction” and recovery they will get a second chance only if they can survive… Read more »

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Phil Arra
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Phil Arra

Thanks, Travis, for the good work. How’s Vermont?

takeprofits
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I think that greed plays a part in the results investors are reporting. on buy and hold strategies. While some few may go on to continued profits after doubling or tripling, the safest approach is to be satisfied with 50% to 1005 profits and at least take your original investment off the table at that point. YES, you will sometimes sell too soon, on the other hand you will mostly avoid giving the majority of your profits back.