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It’s been a couple of years since I tried Options Hotline… What I do remember is that I lost a good chuck of $$ AND that there was no exit strategy. At least most other services offer an exit strategy.
What I don’t understand is why Agora continues a service with such a poor rating… makes me wonder about the quality of the other Agora services….
My experience was similar to many of you. The advertising is deceptive and the results are no where near what’s depicted.
It’s an example of distorting results to promote your service. As some said earlier you probaply could have made more money doing the opposite of his recommendations.
I highly recommend using services like this to check out any company or service you are considering investing in.
I’ll complement from my experience with Larry Blair’s review. It is exactly how most newsletter does they exaggerations. Basically, they gives a conservative and aggressive price point along with each reco, when to exist is your decision. One would think they cannot claim a winner unless it at least meet the conservative exist price, but as Larry pointed out, even intra day price goes up by 1 cent, it’s a winner to them, most of the case, it went way down afterwards and never come back. And that’s how they claimed no losser since 2007. I had been with Option… Read More »
True, the two series are not all that different — though the A shares do yield slightly less and are above their call price already, and there are a lot more B shares out there so the volume is quite a bit higher. The A series do pay quarterly and the B pay monthly, but both have basically similar risk profiles as far as I can tell. And yes, I agree — when you’re levered up 8-to-1 or 12-to-1 the idea of being ahead of the common shares in bankruptcy is not all that comforting. It’s something, but it’s not… Read More »
Thanks for the input. So the "secret" is just a come on to get you to subscribe to an expensive newsletter for their recommendations on the options to buy/sell. By the way, I do subscribe to 2 of S&A more resaonably priced newsletters and hve been very happy with the results.
Too much been said on the advertising technique of this newsletter. The claim of no loser since 2007 is definitely a false statement, far from it!! The way this newsletter works is they give one reco once a week with a conservative and aggressive target. When to exist is your decision. The only problem is the reco might go the right direction (call or put) for a bit then reverse. Only very few will hit the conservative target, never mind the aggressive target. It has been having losers after losers since the beginning of Q2 of 2009
Can’t speak for anyone else but I do sometimes speculate in options, or use options to hedge. I don’t use an options service and have never done so, so I don’t have much direct experience with them. I am generally more skeptical of options trading services than I am of stock newsletters — it is extremely hard for most options newsletter subscribers to come close to matching the “paper returns” of options services, due to the relatively large spreads and low volume in most options contracts. That’s true with some stock newsletters, too, and the bigger stock newsletter touts often… Read More »
Which two? Do you find S&A credible with integrity?
I think it’s as close to being a con trick as one can get without being arrested. I wonder why Agora stick with him. Their involvement with this loser tarnishes their other products. I will not pay out money for any more of their services, ever!
I have this subscribtion for several months since they gave it to me for free instead of Easy Options that got closed. I also had it for a year before, in 2008 for $500 and lost money at that time. I agree with the most what the others say about Options Hotline. Just want to be fair. He does tell you when to sell option based on stock price, if it goes your way. Most options recommended are under $5 and either out of money or slightly in the money with 1 to a few months term. Quite a few… Read More »
My experience in the past was EXCELLENT! I traded Options Hotline picks for a period of 6 months and I loved it. This was 2 years ago! Unfortunately, my marriage was on the rocks at that time and when it finally caved, I had to deal with other issues in life and stopped trading. However, I must say…that if it wasn’t for the money I had made with Options Hotline when we separated, my situation would have been much worse. The great news is that i’m back and looking forward to trading Options Hotline again within one month! It was… Read More »
I make consistent money with this advisory. I simply sell what he advises to buy and almost always make a tidy sum at the end of the option expiration. Saved me a bunch of times, because there were many times I was bearish and Steve was bearish too, so I backed off and sure enough Steve (and I) were wrong. he’s so bad in his recos that i can do the opposite and do well.
This nitwit ought to be shut down. Am I pissed because I got conned??? Hmmmm…………maybe just a little. They were pretty quick at cancelling my subscription, though. Guilty conscience perhaps?
I want to thank every one for the honest reviews and comments. I just subscribed to this service and I will start trading in a couple of days. Steve’s first two recos I paper traded so far, was EBAY 30 puts dec (which to date is at a loss and his JCP Feb call at 31 is in the money). So, on paper, he is 50/50 with me. After hearing all the comments, my process moving forward will be to put a 20% stop losses on every trade!, only purchase 10 options max on every trade, and watch each trade… Read More »
Sorry, I'm not familiar with Canadian brokers. Every US account I've held allows for free and automatic reinvestment of most dividends — that should be (though isn't always, I imagine) a basic, included service for any brokerage account.
Do discount brokers provide you with costs of reinvestments when you eventually sell your shares? Also, how do you evaluate service of discount brokers? (Actually, that is a question for a different conversational thread.) I have heard of one person who had trouble transferring his account from one broker to another without selling and buying back all his stocks. Is that common?
This service came as part of the Agora Reserve 3 years ago. I followed his recos a few times and consistently lost money because I cannot watch my positions multiple times a day. Most expire worthless. Maybe there is value for active day traders. Also, using the maximum to compute performance is more than just misleading. I could randomly pick some puts and calls on some stocks and I, too, would have doubles every second time, if I only count the maximum option value attained for a second. This is probably the least useful service out of Agora. They should… Read More »
I got into this via the Agora Reserve. Wish I could leave now – but after paying what I did to start, it seems odd to lose all that research to not pay the yearly fee. I got sucked in. I wanted to like this options service. The numbers were amazing. Problem is: everyone’s numbers can be amazing in hindsight when using intraday prices (especially on options). That’s what all of the figures in this publication are based on. Total scam. Used it for 3 years, lost money in 1, made some in 1 and broke even in the last.… Read More »