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Explaining “770 Accounts” and Palm Beach’s “How to Fund Your Own Worry-Free, 100% Tax-Free Retirement.”

Reading into Tom Dyson's Palm Beach Letter pitch for “The Secret Investment Account: How to Fund Your Own Worry-Free, 100% Tax-Free Retirement.” This was originally pitched as the "770 Account" and has also been touted as a "702(j) Account" that "pays 30-40X more than bank accounts"

This was originally published on June 3, 2013, and it continues to be one of the most-discussed topics we’ve covered during those years.

The idea continues to be teased and promoted actively by Tom Dyson and his folks at Palm Beach Letter, sometimes using different names, so we’re re-posting it for those new readers who might be interested… the idea is now sold partly as a secret strategy used by Warren Buffett, Joe Biden, Wall Street Bankers, and other notable names… but the basic idea and the type of “bank on yourselflife insurance policy they’re pitching is unchanged (yes, I expect Buffett probably has some whole life insurance, since essentially all wealthy people use life insurance as part of their estate tax planning, and Berkshire Hathaway has engaged in life settlements/secondary life insurance investments in the past).

While you’ll still sometimes see it teased as the 770 Account, or as the “World’s Most Notorious Asset,” it’s mostly now being teased as the “702(j) Account” (just another mysterious-sounding number, like 770, that refers to the part of the IRS code that deals with cash-value life insurance)…

…the story otherwise hasn’t changed much, here’s our original article…

—-from 6/3/13—-

“Imagine an account that…

“Lets you retire 100% tax-free

“Is NOT reportable to the IRS

“Pays you an average of 5% per year

“Has paid out, on average, for 121 straight years

“And which, unlike traditional retirement plans like IRAs and 401(k)s, lets you withdraw money anytime you like, for whatever reason you like, and with no penalties whatsoever.”

That’s what Tom Dyson and a few other folks who sign their promo letters are promising in the latest pitch for the Palm Beach Letter, which he publishes with Mark Ford. It’s all about an account that’s been used by the uber-wealthy for generations, and by “at least six different U.S. Presidents,” including John F. Kennedy and FDR, whose pictures grace some of the ads to provide gravitas, to generate “IRS-exempt” income for retirement.

So what’s the story? Well, Dyson calls it the “770 account” to make it seem mysterious (why else, of course, would you buy the newsletter?), but, frankly, it’s plenty mysterious on its own even if you don’t give it a sneaky name. More on that in a moment.

In fact, this kind of “Account” is already being touted by lots of skeezy-sounding infommercials and books whose promises make you very suspicious — they come with names like “Bank on Yourself” and “Infinite Banking.”

That’s not to say that any of the heavily marketed versions of these plans are skeezy, just that their promises give me that feeling, and the numbers and specifics for plans like this come usually only when you’re sitting in an office with an agent. “Skeezy”, by the way, is defined by your friendly neighborhood Gumshoe as a combination of “sketchy” and “sleazy.”

But what they’re talking about with those plans, and what Tom Dyson is pitching for his newsletter, is life insurance.

Not just ordinary term life insurance like most people under 60 carry, though — we’ll get to that in a minute. First, a bit more of his tantalizing teasing:

Manhattan’s Secret Vault: Why Wall St. has kept this powerful secret hidden from you

“There’s a very good reason you’ve never heard about the “770” account before:

“That’s because Wall Street doesn’t want you to know about it!

“And neither do the big banks too, for that matter. (More on this in a minute.)

“Now, even though this is the investment account The Wall Street Journal is on record as saying is better than 401(k)s and IRAs… the majority of Americans don’t know it exists.

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“Why?

“Well here’s a clue…

“I just got off the phone with an insider who works in the 770 industry. This person has worked first-hand with one of America’s biggest financial gurus (a name you’d instantly recognize), as well as several employees from Goldman Sachs and other big investment banks.

“And this is what this person said to me: NO ONE in Wall Street has their money in stocks—many of them are invested instead in ‘770’ accounts!

“Now, consider what this means…

“Here are the same investment professionals who’ve been telling us for years to “buy stocks”… and meanwhile… they’re all putting their money somewhere else!

“Ridiculous.

“Can you imagine the outrage this would create if most people found out about this?

“That’s why you’ll never hear your broker mention this investment to you, no matter how much money he (or she) has parked into it.”

We get a lot more in Dyson’s ad about the safety of these plans, and about how the big banks have tons of their own capital tied up in these plans (that’s true, by the way — banks have massive life insurance assets called “bank owned life insurance” or BOLI, they take it out on their top employees and it’s a large portion of their core capital), and Dyson’s reiteration that he has been putting increasing amounts of his own family’s money (20% of his net worth) into these accounts and getting a safe 5.5% yield … and it’s money that he can take out whenever he wants to by borrowing against it without penalties.

So what he’s talking about is not just life insurance, but probably a specific class of permanent life insurance that’s called “whole life.”

And it’s not really life insurance, not in the way those of us with term life insurance policies think of it (making sure your family’s not destitute if you die when your kids are young, or your mortgage has 20 years to go), it’s more of a wealth protection and tax-avoidance savings policy.

Whole life insurance is an agreement between you and an insurance company that they will pay out a certain amount of money when you die, and the agreement never expires as long as you keep paying the premium. That obviously means the premium is far larger than with a term life insurance policy, since a term policy expires at some point — term life insurance almost never pays out, so it’s cheap. You can pay $25 a month for $500,000 of 20-year term life insurance if you’re 35 years old, which is obviously cheap, but that’s because you’re young and healthy and the insurance expires when you’re 55, well before you reach the highest mortality risk years.

Whole life insurance does have that insurance portion, in that if you die in the early years of the policy there’s a death benefit that probably exceeds the money you’ve put in. But it’s not really for that — it’s set up to accumulate your death benefit over time. So if you want a $500,000 policy and the actuaries think you’ll die in 35 years, your premiums plus whatever returns the insurance company can earn on those premiums will have to add up to $500,000 in that length of time, plus whatever the insurance company wants to make as a profit. Life insurance companies do not generally do crazy investing or earn great returns in times of low interest rates, and they know pretty precisely when their insured people will die (for a large group, on average) so your premiums would likely be pretty stiff.

But that’s if you’re thinking about it as insurance — much of your premium goes into building a cash value for the insurance policy, and if you buy your policy through a mutual insurance company (like State Farm, or many others) that’s owned by the policyholders, and you get a “participating” or dividend-paying policy (meaning you get a dividend from the insurance company when they make money), then your cash balance can compound nicely and provide what are effectively decent investment returns that are indeed tax-advantaged. I don’t know whether the 5.5% gain that Dyson is expecting is typical or not.

Life insurance is often used by families who have some wealth to pass some of that wealth down to the next generation without taxes, and it doesn’t have accumulation limits that I’m aware of, like tax-advantaged retirement plans that restrict the amount you can put in every year — for most people contribution limits are a theoretical concept, but for the upper middle class and the wealthy the cap of 25-50 thousand a year across various retirement accounts is a bother.

So the key aspects of this, from what I can tell, are that you would want to buy whole life insurance, that you would want to have a participating or dividend-paying policy, and maybe even, if Dyson is following the same track as folks like the “Bank on Yourself” people, that you want to maximize the amount of savings you put into the plan (these are often called “paid up additions”) to increase your potential dividends from the mutual company and the growth of the account over time. The maximizing and “be your own bank” stuff is all about putting so much of your net worth into these policies that you do all of your big purchases (like buying cars, etc.) by borrowing from your policy. But of course, to do that you have to be the kind of person who can put a substantial amount of money aside for these large premiums as your “forced savings” plan.

And the reason it’s confusing, even if you don’t call it a “770 Plan”, is that these are complex contracts, they’re not standardized across different insurance companies, and from what I can tell you can only really buy them through an agent, whose commission structure may drive him in a different direction than you want to go. There are many, many variations and riders on these policies that I have only seen briefly mentioned, and I don’t know how most of them work — I suspect that they’re difficult to compare across providers, which is a hallmark of most commission-driven, hidden fee businesses.

Life insurance has a reputation for being riddled with fees, and for permanent life insurance and whole life insurance like this, the articles I’ve read suggest that most of the policies start to make sense after 10-15 years, but they suck up substantial costs and fees that mean you might lose out if you needed to try to pull your money out before that. This is a small segment of the insurance business that’s focused mostly on the wealthy, and the stuff that Dyson seems to be talking about is probably better handled with agents who are specialists in this … preferably those who don’t also happen to market a skeezy “secret plan.”

That is an extremely non-expert view. I don’t have a policy like this and I have not researched them fully, I’m sure there are people with whole life plans and probably agents who sell these plans out there in the great Gumshoe readership who could probably explain it better (feel free to use our friendly little comment box below) — all I can tell you is that Dyson seems to be teasing participating/dividend-paying whole life plans as his “770 plans” (and no, I don’t know what the 770 refers to), and they are real, and I don’t know whether they’re a good idea for you or not.

P.S. As of November 2013 this is now also being teased as “The ‘Underground Wealth’ Account: How to Fund Your Own Worry-Free, 100% Tax-Free Retirement” — these “accounts” were pitched in a different Palm Beach Letter teaser ad that was mostly about silver, I covered that one here on November 7.

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joe blow
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joe blow
January 17, 2014 6:34 pm

looks good if your selling

Timothy L. Singleton
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Timothy L. Singleton
January 25, 2014 9:53 pm

This is hilarious to me for so many reasons.
First, people should own permanent life insurance. It is a forced savings plan that provides death benefits as well as cash accumulation.
It is also funny to me that what I used to have to ‘sell’ is suddenly sexy for all the benefits that so called financial pundits who pushed buy term and invest the rest when they knew damn well the general population buys term, blows the rests and then drops the term when things get tight.
I used to be an agent for Northwestern Mutual. I no longer keep up with their AM Best’s ratings as I am no longer in that business. One thing is for sure, though. Of all the business transactions in which I have participated over the years selling a young family whole life insurance that was carefully crafted to fit their situation was the cleanest, most moral of them all.
Yes, I miss the business. My reason for leaving was quite simply that I got tired of trying to convince men to do for their families what they knew in their hearts they needed to do but did not have the character with which to do it and stick to it.
Today’s economy is the result of buy term and use the rest to finance more lifestyle than you can afford at credit card interest rates.
LOL, this matter is too complicated for a blog response and in any case, it matters not. The country has to deal with the consequences of choosing to not accumulate capital personally.
Tim

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Andy Zahoran
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Andy Zahoran
January 29, 2014 1:30 pm

Hi: just for curiosity what is the minimum amount of investment 2,3,4, or maybe 5,000 thou.

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Andy Zahoran
January 29, 2014 1:37 pm

what is the approximate time $ 5,000 can become an amount that one can use some of the interest amount….or do you know…

Terry Courtney
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Terry Courtney
January 30, 2014 6:45 pm

I suggest that you take a look at Alliance. I purchased one of their product that guarantees a 10% interest rate that I can withdraw up to a 9% income stream and in this way I NEVER will drain my account. It compares their stock market investment earnings and the 10% guarantee rate. I get the larger of the two rates, racheted every quarter! That is up, never down! I have increasing life insurance to boot. I contributed once (converted, tax free, from another type of policy), and I am earning 10% minimum. As far as tax free; I suspect that I will have to pay taxes on the interest but sense I’m not withdrawing yet, I ‘m not sure/

About two years ago they stopped selling the 10% guaranteed product and now only offer a 5% or 6% guaranteed product (not sure which) but the deal has the same rate structure.

Annuities have been given a bad rap over the years but Alliance is, I believe, what these people are talking about and I do not believe that anyone in the industry can equal it.

Disclaimer: I am not an expert by any means on this product and you should research it yourself. If interested contact Fred Farhoumand at One Resource in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. (260) 478-0680. I have known him for 30 years and he has always led me honestly & professionally and I have made money.

Good Luck!

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Dean Owen, CPA, PFS
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Dean Owen, CPA, PFS
March 1, 2014 12:44 pm
Reply to  Terry Courtney

http://www.producersweb.com/r/WPI/d/contentFocus/?pcID=f05d25bdf8b6bc66b6f62e21c23166af

http://www.riabiz.com/a/12348571/how-glenn-neasham-lost-his-house-was-forced-to-go-on-food-stamps-and-faces-jail-time-after-selling-a-senior-an-indexed-annuity

A jury of this guys peers said the annuity was so bad, it merited throwing him in PRISON for selling it. Look up “Gelnn Neasham Annuity Prison Alliance” for more info

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Malcolm Jensen
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Malcolm Jensen
March 28, 2014 4:25 pm

Dean Owen, That was one dumb jury, convinced by an ignorant state’s attorney. If you think everyone ever convicted of a crime is guilty, you are among the sensationally naïve.

mike
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mike
February 4, 2014 11:02 am

Universal Life policies tank. Legal way for insurance companies to screw you. Agents sell these policies knowing that 20 years later when they tank, no one will remember who sold it to them and what was said. Read the policy. The simple illustrations have a non guaranteed and guaranteed value. The guaranteed value is the really what will happen.

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Malcolm Jensen
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Malcolm Jensen
March 28, 2014 4:22 pm
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You don’t know what you’re writing about, Mike. You don’t sound worth the effort involved with fixing some of your misunderstandings, so I won’t try. You might want to limit future writings to areas in which you actually know something.

steve jackson
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steve jackson
February 7, 2014 12:25 pm

The article and comments are very interesting. I deal with asset management, and am licensed in insurance as well. My POV is that of finding the best long-range investment solutions for myself and my clients. Since I am licensed to sell both insurance and securities, I have no preference for or against these programs. My name in this forum is fake, as is the email address that I have provided. I will not respond personally to any direct questions because of my position and license regulations.
First of all, for those of you who are using this forum to solicit clients – I suggest you review this practice with the compliance department of the companies you work with. You may find that this type of solicitation is not only unethical, but unlawful under the terms of your licensure. Any type of investment advice is specific to an individual, and there is no way to possibly understand the complexities of a ‘poster’s’ full financial situation by reading a paragraph or two.
I have studied a few of the ‘borrow from yourself’ strategies and I’m not at all sold on them.
When you roll up your sleeves and actually crunch the numbers, and include the very high cost of owning a Whole Life policy, you’ll quickly learn that you will have a stronger bottom-line (more money accrued) even with modest returns in the current interest-rate environment, through conventional, low risk investments.
Risk is the key here – the only two advantages that I see using insurance products as investment vehicles are through principal protection, and tax deferral/avoidance elements. However, you pay for each of those protections, and with simple calculations, you’ll quickly scratch out the differences.
I am a proponent of using insurance for risk management… but for investments, it just doesn’t pay off.
When you ‘bank on yourself’, you are not borrowing your own money. So, you’re not banking on yourself. The insurance company owns that money as long as you hold that policy (that you gave them in the form of premiums). You are borrowing their money, against your own Death Benefit. And, you are paying interest -in part- to them for the privilege of borrowing that money.
If you want to use your own money to purchase durable goods or a home… here’s a novel idea: save up the money, and buy it with cash. Yes, you will pay taxes on that money while you’re growing it, but that is ‘generally’ less expensive than paying the high commissions and insurance fees in a whole life policy.
I encourage all of you to read Nash’s book, seek a good insurance broker to provide you with hypotheticals – be very careful to examine actual, historical returns… not fictional/straight-line ‘assumed’ returns. Compare that to historical returns from any number of investments from Treasuries and CDs to non-traded REITS, S&P 500, tactical bond strategies and the like. You’ll run the entire gamut along the risk scale… and I believe that you will find out that insurance is NOT the way to go for long-range investing/income/retirement.
Good luck, and I really appreciate many of the comments in this forum!

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AKA moogell
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February 15, 2014 1:39 pm
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Steve, You encourage the reading of Nash’s book. Could you tell me the complete name of the book and author please. Thank you, Moog

Gina Lowe
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Gina Lowe
February 10, 2014 2:33 pm

I am interested in this program. Which companies participate in this type of program,

iceberg
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iceberg
February 17, 2014 2:30 am

I’ve always had Term Ins. (got new policies every few years before age bracket went to a higher premium). I’m just a simple guy and like simple things; Exceptions: Whiskey and Women….a man still needs a few challenges in life.

Harris S Levy
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Harris S Levy
February 18, 2014 1:51 pm

I willl, for some altruistic reason unknown even to me, to give one more bit of advice to ALL OF YOU.

Harris S Levy
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Harris S Levy
February 18, 2014 2:20 pm

Once again – and for some reason unknown even to me, I shall try to make clear the basic principles underlying this whole chain of commentary:
Never buy anything (including insurance) from anyone whose primary interest is in the amount of commission he or she can make;
Never buy or sell anything only for the tax consequences which may or may not ensue;

Only accept advice from a qualified expert be it an attorney, a CPA, an Appraiser, an Actuary, a CFP, CLU ChFC or the like. and in the specialty in which you have the situation.

Deal with an enterprise or sales person who will only make recommendations to you based on your needs with the caveat that if you have no need no recommendation will gbe forthcoming, So, here goes:

If you know either the date or the bracketed time frame of your death or the close of a given period during which a need may exist, and if a term product from a good company is available with good provisions and terms, then consider the term coverage.

If you have a need which may extend for an unknown or indefinite period of time or is known to exist at a point in time after available term products will cover you (term insurance at age 95 if still in force on an existing policy may cost darn near 100% premium per year (and nobody gets any commissions on these amounts, maybe a tiny service fee)) . A good lawyer to prepare trusts and the like for estate planning to make sure that the high net worth individual is properly situated vis a vis taxes and other factors which could prove problematic upon death, may recommend life policies which may have high commissions but his fees may just possibly also be substantial. So if you also don’t want your lawyer to make any money either, then listen to all the
“know-it-alls” who will tell you a million different wrong or partially correct zero to half-truths. Summary: If you need permanent coverage, permanent life with GUARANTEES is the way to go unless you can pre-fund 100% of the potential need right away. As an actuary, I am well aware that the insurance industry actually does better on term (most policies expire or lapse worthless without the larger commissions and expenses of setting up permanent programs) we factor profits into all premium calculations. As for a 401k), always take what you can get free since most employers have long since terminated their costly pension plans for the near freebies of the 401(k) cash or deferred plans. Again, there will be expenses, even commissions maybe, and taxes at the end of the line but if you would end up with more, even taxable, then take it – you would be a fool not to.

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Dean Owen, CPA, PFS
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Dean Owen, CPA, PFS
March 1, 2014 12:41 pm

Its a scam. See Black v. Comm’r, T.C. Memo 2014-27 (T.C. 2014)

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March 8, 2014 11:53 pm

Good god you people are all ****ing idiots. First, you actually waste your time on these obvious newsletter con men, then you dont even realize this website pretends to give you “analysis” on con men without ever telling you they are con men either because the moron who runs this site is too naive to know any better or because all he really cares about is making you think this useless site can provide value. The real deal is that this site uses the hard work of others to draw in an audience in order to see advertisements.

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March 9, 2014 7:02 pm
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Frank:
Since we are a bunch of idiots, I presume you are another of those brilliant know-it-alls. We all know what this site does and we have a choice at to ignoring or posting, so get over the name calling. You are the one showing your ignorance.

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March 28, 2014 4:14 pm
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Frank, You’re dead wrong about Travis (Gumshoe). He is providing a fine service and doing so free. He is not naïve; you are. Further, you’re a nasty person who fails to think (at all well) before committing your foul thoughts to writing.

Fed-Up
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Fed-Up
March 12, 2014 3:05 pm

“WHAT” the life insurance companies, the investment houses, and the bankers “do” with every single dollar of deposit, earned interest, or whatever shows on their ledger, is “fractionalize-the loans- that are issued” 9 to 14 ‘fold and KEEP the bulk of the earnings, as they pay out the paltry ( but about average ) returns, to “US” the idiots who don’t have the slightest idea of how the rich get richer and what REALLY goes on with these leveraged trades behind the scenes, BECAUSE – if enough of “US” would FINALLY get “The Rest Of The Story” – there would be world-wide riots ensuing, BUT, since “WE” the Comon Village Idiots – wouldn’t believe that these things are possible, for it’s been ingrained in our mediocre brains that “IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE- IT MUST BE FALSE” – no worries about world-wide rioting !……

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Ron
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Ron
March 20, 2014 1:00 pm
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PUA ?

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Powell
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March 13, 2014 4:52 am

The 770 accounts are NOT Indexed or Universal Life products – those don’t have guaranteed cash value, and they don’t endow (which is huge). Yes, you’ve all figured out in the thread that it is whole life – but whole life with maximized paid-up additions, which makes the cash value grow more quickly. I’ve had illustrations run on myself (I’m 50) and I’m definitely getting one (or more) of these policies. The rate of growth is modest but steady, and by year three you have ALL your premiums back PLUS the death benefit, should something happen to you. From then on, it grows faster. (Policies without the PUAs grow cash value more slowly.)
If you already have money in the market (which of course you can’t collateralize, have no guarantees against loss, no death benefit, and are not as tax-advantaged) you owe it to yourself to check it out – thoroughly. I used to be a “buy term and invest the difference” person, but would be better off if I had done this instead.
The Palm Beach Wealth Builders Club is awesome, lots of useful info (Income for Life, same as 770, and much more).

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christopher puletasi
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March 14, 2014 1:39 am

I still need more information about this 770 account.

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g. leighman
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g. leighman
March 20, 2014 2:43 pm

need more info. on how and if I should join. turning 70 this yr.. does it apply to me???????????

MR. NELSON L. GROSS
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March 29, 2014 12:53 pm

HOW TO GET ACCOUNT 770 ACCOUNT ,,WHERE IS IT AT. ADDRESS, WHAT CITY AND STATE AN PHONE NUMBER. NLG44792@GMAIL.COM

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RMealey
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RMealey
April 2, 2014 5:00 pm

Im 72, Im not so enamored with insurance policies other than a means of leaving money to beneficiaries tax free. Ive created my Irrevocable Trust and put all my assets so to speak under its umbrella but I have a problem which is good but problematic and Im unsure how to handle it. Ive concluded a transaction Ive worked on for a number of years the result is income in the millions + The minute I bring this money into the USA Ill be taxed 42% on said moneis. Thanks to the new laws under Obama, can not put the money as a US Citizen overseas, so 42% will be lost to me in tax. This is where one is seriously tempted like many others to move overseas and drop ones Citizenship. On the other hand at 72 I wont have many years to enjoy my good fortune but it chokes me to give money to an administration so incompetent in the business of governance

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Malcolm Jensen
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Malcolm Jensen
April 3, 2014 8:54 am
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RMealey, Remember that the current administration has only two years yet to go. To get some perspective on the real quality of this administration as it compares to previous administrations read “The Big Con” by Jonathan Chait. Regardless, do the right thing and stay here. Loyalty is not just about being American while accumulating wealth.

marty
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marty
May 24, 2014 6:23 pm
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I have a similiar problem RMealey, but I’ve not come up with an answer. If you have a favorite charity or your University, that might help, but you will still have to pay a large portion. Can’t see much change with this administration, and I cannot see much tax legislation changed with ANY administration, the way they like to spend.

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