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RWJ
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June 1, 2011 8:26 pm

Porter’s investment letter subscription is just a gimmick to get you to spend more money on the next big pick, which of course costs you more…etc., etc. I never saw anything to make me excited….waste of money to read his opinion of how wealthy and astute he is………Buyer Beware. The only consistency is the deep levels you must continually pay for after you have paid for his newsletter, now that is consistent.

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Chris
June 2, 2011 1:17 pm

The Russian Computer Geeks, Spyware, is not always shown as an “Advertisement”. Many times it is showm as the following:

“Our business resently spent hundreds of thousands of dollars” and it is signed George Rayburn, Publisher, S&A Investment Research. That is not an ad, it is the whole content of the emailed newsletter.

Then you click on the link and you have to buy another newsletter to find out what information S&A has gotten from their “Spyware”, that they say they paid $500,000 to have written. So yes it is another newsletter. By the way, they were giving that newletter, based on the Russian spyware, away for free for 7 months, since no one was fooled by the Russian Spyware nonsense.

That is not a simple ad to lower the cost of the newsletter, it is one of their own newsletter they are selling, big difference. The Chris Webber newsletter was a crazy ad for someone elses newsletter. See the difference

As for politics, it sounds like DickG is Sevens, complaining about politics when someone objects to the tactics used by S&A. What does politics have to do with any of the negitive reviews?

PS, I have my own system which is working quite well, so you are not taking my money, DickG.

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sevens
June 3, 2011 8:28 pm

Of course any intelligent reader would recognize the differences in style, topics, and preferences between this new reviewer DickG and me but this is not really important. As confirmed on the same ground, Chris, a.k.a. ScamDar, a.k.a. Nayem, a.k.a. RWJ is visibly obsessed with his/her presence and ratings on this humble and not-so-significant site. Notice that in all his/her virtual incarnations the accusations and conclusions are basically the same (Buyer beware…) while ignoring my multiple and direct challenges to review the INVESTMENT advisory, not the newsletter and advertisements. Playing deft is very typical liberals behavior when they run out of valid arguments. Obviously he/she believes that the comments here have some measurable impact on PSIA membership and company success. Let alone the lack of content in many of the reviews. If this site allows same online ID and same IP address to be used over and over again what is the value of these ratings? It smells like ACORN organized voter fraud, doesn’t it?

Is this Chris etc. a minor league Porter competitor (why not from this site?) envying PSIA success or another crazy liberal enraged by the uncomfortable but undeniable truth in Porter’s video? Notice that PSIA subscription fee is same as the membership fees for this site with only 30-day trial (the monthly subscription), so PSIA trial is three times less expensive. Of course there are out other valuable investment advisory and education services and Porter is just part of the elite of a growing industry. Do they really care what ratings they get here?

Any intelligent trader and/or investor would simply check for $5 what it’s all about during the 90 days trial period. Those that value the reviews here more than $5 simply don’t need PSIA advisory and hardly anything can help them, hence why so much noise about nothing?

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sevens
June 3, 2011 8:32 pm

ScamDar, dare to comment as suggested on the INVESTEMNT advisory itself or on the Annual Report Cards I and II published in the S&A Digest January 14 and 21 that review and grade the performance of the various subscription advisories, not advertisement mumbo-jumbo.

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sevens
June 3, 2011 8:33 pm

Nayem, dare to comment as suggested on the INVESTMENT advisory itself or on the Annual Report Cards I and II published in the S&A Digest January 14 and 21 that review and grade the performance of the various subscription advisories, not advertisement mumbo-jumbo.

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sevens
June 3, 2011 8:34 pm

RWJNayem, dare to comment as suggested on the INVESTMENT advisory itself or on the Annual Report Cards I and II published in the S&A Digest January 14 and 21 that review and grade the performance of the various subscription advisories, not advertisement mumbo-jumbo.

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sevens
June 3, 2011 8:42 pm

Hey Chris it’s easier than you think. Wanna make me write a script to repeat this comment thousand times? It will execute probably faster than me reading Jeff’s Direct Line at Porter’s site.

Why don’t you just follow the guidance in 3 above this frame and finally write a honest review, are you at all capable of this?

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sevens
June 3, 2011 8:45 pm

Sorry after published the guideline 3 appears below the comments and above the entry frame.

DickG
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DickG
June 4, 2011 6:00 pm

I can’t totally disagree with RWJ. Before I joined the Stansberry Alliance (where you get all of their newsletters for one price plus a yearly maintenance fee) they kept sending me ads to upgrade. Fortunately for them, I loved what they wrote and made enough $$$ from Sjugerrud to convince me to go all in. It was the best decision I’ve made, from a financial standpoint as well as an educational one.

The only editor I don’t really care for is Ferris. Good ideas but too arrogant to adhere to stops. I will buy his reco’s but ignore his sell advice. I also liked Dyson and was sorry to see him go. Porter is arrogant as well, but I give him a free pass because he is so good at what he does. I’d rather have a successful arrogant guy at the helm rather than a modest loser.

Sevens, I wouldn’t waste too much time on the other guys here. Some people make up their minds right away and nothing you can say will change their minds. It’s not worth pursuing. Just be glad that you Get It.

For folks who haven’t yet signed up for S&A, I simply recommend that you read the newsletters and ignore the ads as best you can. There is a lot of good stuff there if you can make it past the hype.

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DickG
June 4, 2011 6:09 pm

Chris re: the Russkies: if you didn’t pay for it, it’s an ad, dude. Stansberry owes you nothing, and he’s not going to send you free stock tips. Get over it and either do your own research or pay someone to do it for you.

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Chris
June 6, 2011 8:47 am

DickG, If you like your subscription so much, why are you so concerned by what others think? Is it because you and sevens are really, Porter or one of the other editors of S&A.

I did pay for a subcription and for my money all I get are crazy get rich quick scams and not much real investment advise. I paid for a subsription and what they owe me is investment advise, not a non stop stream of emails for crazy scams.

The Russian scam is not an ad, as I have said over and over, S&A editors claim that S&A paid to have the “spyware” written.

Calling it an ad is like saying a promo for a new TV show on its home network is only an advertisement. Obviously it is not, it is a promo of their own product, which is this case they claim to have spent $500,000.

Finally, S&A has my money and as long as they do, I have the right to complain about their product, if I don’t like it.

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DickG
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DickG
June 6, 2011 10:20 am

Chris, I’m sorry you thought I cared. I really don’t, unless you’re a hot blond chick. Then I can probably care.

You say you gave your money to S&A and have the right to complain about their product. I totally agree. So which newsletter do you subscribe to, and what don’t you like about it? I’m not talking about marketing e-mails you get because you signed up for a newsletter; I’m talking about the paid newsletter itself. What paid recommendation by S&A did you not like, or lose money on?

And regarding the Russian e-mail: so how much exactly did you pay for the newsletter that talks about the Russian Spyware? You said in a post that it was addressed to “Dear S&A Digest Reader.” Now, I will type very slowly so you can understand this. The S&A Digest is a free publication made for marketing purposes. They created it to sell subscriptions. You do not pay for it. You will not get free stock tips from it. Does that make sense? I am continually amazed at how many people do not get the concept of You Get What You Pay For.

So, once more for the back of the room: I don’t like their marketing tactics either, but folks need to get beyond that in order to get to the good stuff, and there is a lot of good stuff coming out of S&A. You just don’t read it unless you pay for it.

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An Observer
June 9, 2011 2:20 pm

I have not as yet subscribed to this newsletter as I wanted to perform due diligence first.

What I will tell you about this man is that he’s bang on when it comes to what’s in store for all of us – regardless of country. I don’t know where Mr. Porter got his information from, but this is certainly an interesting arrival to what’s forthcoming.

I don’t need to rely on his word, (or even the media reports for that – modified as they are). The BIBLE clearly states that we are approaching a time when people will throw their money into the streets – because of its loss of value (for those of you interested enough to check, see Ezekiel 7:19).

The world is already dealing with food shortages and we’re kidding ourselves here in the Americas if we think those things can’t happen to us. Are we really that SPECIAL? A good portion of the U.S. is already under-water, burning or so polluted that it is not usable for farming. It’s not the only country and no science degree is required, a simpleton can see that!

While Mr. Porter may sound like a ranting, crazy man, his assertion that most of us are in fact “asleep” to what is going on around us is correct. Politicians can never be your friend – they are out for their own interests. This system we have created in broken.

This arguing is over semantics, do so if you must, but realize your actions won’t excuse you. For my part, I’d be more incline to check the facts on the history he’s presented to confirm to yourselves where we are in the stream of time.

By the way, no amount of listening to his picks can, in the end, guarantee anyone’s safety or security – that is a matter each of us can only address when the time comes. We could follow his advice, make pots of money and then get killed by a rioting group of have-nots!

Chris
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Chris
June 10, 2011 7:54 am

I am not sure why sevens/DickG are so fired up over someone posting a negitive review. Could it be that they are both Porter or one of his editors? Probably. Why else would they both be so fired up over a review and feel the need to respond directly to the reviewer and post multiple positive reviews, as was done June 3 and 4. They both act so insulted that people don’t like the tactics used by S&A, why?

I also feel they are the same person because they both blame politics for the bad reviews and both make the same excuses for the bad business practices of S&A.

It is my opinion that anyone who really liked S&A would either feel no need to search out a place to review the product or would simply post a positive review and walk away. They certainly wouldn’t act insulted or blame politics.

On the other hand a person who does not like a product would be more likely to vent over and over when they see the same wrongs being committed, in this case by the constant emails of nonsense sent by the S&A staff.

I am not a liberal, I an not a competitor of S&A and I only review under my name.

Sevens write all the scripts that you want, enjoy yourself.

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DickG
June 10, 2011 1:13 pm

Chris, two thoughts entered my mind as I read your post:

1) You still haven’t answered my question from June 6th. Could it be that you and Donald Trump are one in the same, since neither one of you can answer a question directly? Or is it because you have never actually paid for and read a S&A newsletter?

2) How sad that you cannot understand why people would defend an entity, whose services they value, from those who obviously Don’t Get It. Perhaps one day you will find something you feel is worth defending.

At least you gave my wife a chuckle the other day. She said, “He doesn’t understand basic marketing and he has money to invest in the market? I doubt it.”

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Sanjay
June 11, 2011 10:24 am

Hi,
I have read a fair number of reviews, both positive and negative. Truth is, I am simply looking for someone with a fantastic track record. At this stage I have no real idea of Porter’s tracker record or track record of hias colleagues.

So today, 11th June 2011 I will purchase ‘Steve Sjuggerud’ product ‘Use my passwords to access all our best investment ideas… for just $5 a month’, (apparently worth nearly $27,000). Apparently there are 16 paid subscriptions, and he states the following:

“In short, we have found a way to get you access to the best investment ideas from among EVERYTHING we publish… at just a tiny, tiny fraction of our regular fees (only $5 per month).”

“But instead of paying the normal rates you’d typically be required to pay to access these ideas, you get them simply by paying your $5 per month fee for DailyWealth Premium.”.

“In DailyWealth Premium, we’ll deliver to you only the very best ideas, cherry–picked by me.”

So I really do expect to receive the best. And he states he has ” a low–risk, slam–dunk” recommendation.

So here goes, I will subscribe to this Service. As soon as I become a member I will ask for a performance record for the past 12 months for each recommendation across all 16 paid subscriptions.

If ‘Steve Sjuggerud’ words start to come true, I will report back. If I start making serious money, then I will seriously look at the other products. However, if I lose money, then I will be also report back and let you know how much money I lost. I will try to my best to remain objective, ie non-emotional, is my replies.

The devil is in the details, and I would also like that whoever has taken on recommendations, to succinceintly inform all of the success/failure of each receommendation.
Regards,
Sanjay

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Richard T
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Richard T
June 11, 2011 12:41 pm

I have subscribed to the service for several years now. I am currently a Private Wealth Alliance member, which entitles me to 6 of their most popular newsletters for a relatively small, upfront fee and small annual maintenance fee. As my star rating show, the value is great as is the information. As for marketing techniques, they are part of life – get over it, people. Bragging about their personal wealth? – as someone else said, I’d rather take my advice from someone who is rich, not a pauper. And very little of this so called bragging goes on anyway.

Political views? They have their own views as they are entitled to. I find their views a very clear, accurate, and an un-sugar coated interpretation of the reality around us. Others who wish to continue in their own dream world may not.

Russian scam? Get a life, please. You’re reading marketing ads – of course there’s some hype and bally-hoo. How else would they build a subscriber base? If you owned an investment advisory service you would too, otherwise you’d go broke – which maybe explains why you don’t have an investment advisory service. I’ve read Sjuggerud for years now and he has proved to be one of the most honest, sensible, guys out there and has a solid common sense approach that has worked well. I trust his new “spyware” based system. So he had some Russians do some tedious calculations – he wasn’t going to sit there and do a bunch of repetitive calculations himself so he hired help. I have no problem with that. I’d be willing to bet it will be one of the best systems out there and well worth the money, especially the introductory price.

Those who get on here, whining and complaining about losing money or the recommendations going down instead of up need to read a little more deeply. The methods of investing in the recommendations are there if you read it like you should – i.e. protective trailing stops, proper position sizing, etc. If you use your head a little you can protect yourself even more by using say an initial stop of 10 or 15% for new recommendations, smaller size positions, etc. As they also say repeatedly in the newsletters and the S&A Digest stress the primary thing is not to lose money – “cut losses short and let the winners run” – don’t just go in there hoping to make a fast killing. Follow the advice. It’s all there.

And for the one who said Ferris uses no stop loss – if you ever took the time to read into his service, you’d see he has very clearly spelled out his reasons for not using stops. I won’t go into it here – if you’re too lazy to investigate yourself I’m not going to tell you.

And in case anyone is not aware, if you stick around long enough, at the end of every year, they have a thorough evaluation of how every newsletter’s recommendation performed. If you don’t like it cancel. As it is, you get what – 6 months or more to evaluate every subscription – if you don’t like it get your money back. But I can tell you, it may take longer than that time frame to see significant results depending on “Mr. Market’s” mood during that time. The Stansberry advisories generally deal with fundamental facts, and sometimes secondarily with market sentiment at the time of the recommendations. Your protective stops are there to protect you. If you want more protection, as I’ve said, tighten the stops yourself. The advisories are not as substitute for common sense. Do your own diligence as they’ve said repeatedly.

And no, I’m not Porter or any of the others and I’m not in cahoots with any of them – I just take my investing seriously and if I’m going spend money for and advisory letter, I’m going to read it thoroughly and follow the advice, limit my risk, etc. If you focus on limiting risk, the money will come. It does for thousands of others, millionaires included. They have a lot of high net worth subscribers, not just a bunch of pip squeaks like some of you whiners out there.

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Richard T
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Richard T
June 11, 2011 1:24 pm

Oh and just to address the points requested about posting a review here… I had both good an bad results on my investments. For me my impatience for results was a factor. If you want to benefit, you’ve got to follow through on their recommendations and follow their guidelines on risk management. Don’t try to get in and out and back in again. Stay in unless a stop is hit or when they say to. Also I find it is best to get in only when they make new recommendation, not several months later after it already made some gain. I think you do better getting in right away, and you can get the same results as they do that way.

What I would say I don’t like is that they make a recommendation every single month whether the market seems like it’s about to tank or not. I’d rather they say something like “there are no appealing investments this month”. But the reason they do that is because that is what most of their subscribers expect. Most subscribers do not want what is best for themselves – only what they think they should get for their money and that is a recommendation every month. Too bad.

I’ve continued my subscription for years because the advice is top notch, the explanation of the market and political backdrop is excellent and there’s an assortment of wisdom from the analysts though they may differ from each other significantly at times. When I follow the advice properly the money comes. If I don’t, it doesn’t.

As I said, I’m a Private Wealth Alliance subscriber which gives me six of the newsletters I liked most anyway. They knocked off the cost I already paid for those subscriptions off of the upfront cost of the Alliance membership (which was $500). The annual maintenance fee is $149. I never lost more than 15% on any recommendation because I used a 15% initial stop loss. But I’ve made good returns on my investment when I held them long enough. I more than doubled my money on Seabridge Gold (SA) and I’m up almost double on Hershey (HSY). I made couple years of high dividends and about 14% more in capital gains on Annaly (NLY). I had held those positions from maybe 6 months on SA to a bit over a year on NLY. I’ve done well on others as well.

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Niall
June 16, 2011 4:35 pm

First off, if you have absolutely no morals or ethics in your heart, then Porter may be someone you could respect! I have zero respect for him. Yes, Porter is smart. Yes, he knows what is going on in the world of finance. But does he have a heart? I would say not! He trade suggestions are based upon making money, not upon any ethics or care for life. Now why am I saying this? Very simple, his recent trade recommendations for BP and Monsanto! Anyone with half a heart knows the absolute evil perpetrated by the Monsanto Corp. and BP is not far behind if not in the lead. Sometimes Porter calls some good trades, other times he just speaks like he is an all knowing god and his suggestions do not perform well. To me he is hit or miss. I will say again, he is a smart guy who tells it like it is and this is why I subscribe to his newsletter, not for the performance. Thus, I use his information/opinions so I can synthesize my own general understanding of market/economic conditions. I also use Doug Casey and Larry Edelson for their opinions as well.

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June 17, 2011 9:14 am

Investing in stocks in the zero-sum, secondary market, i.e. BP or Monsanto, has zero relevance to the company itself. The only way one can influence such companies is by being an officer, on the board of directors, or controlling enough voting shares, i.e. being an activist investor. By the same logic, avoiding investing in “sin” stocks ala “Socially Responsible” mutual funds has zero relevance either. Being morally outraged about a company’s actions and its stock are two entirely differnet things if you are not in a position of influence.

Does anyone know if Sjuggerund ever fessed up and did a mea culpa about his Iceland bonds recommendation? I’ve seen nothing mentioned in DailyWealth nor the S&A Digest.

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