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“Greatest Medical Breakthrough in History” from Paul Mampilly

What's "midwestern company" has the technology that's being teased by Profits Unlimited as "More Important Than Every Drug, Vaccination and Medical Device ... COMBINED?"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, March 12, 2018


Paul Mampilly is out with a teaser pitch for his Profits Unlimited newsletter from Banyan Hill, which is the entry-level ($97/yr) stock picking letter for that publisher (which used to be called the Sovereign Society). I first covered this for the Irregulars last summer, but we’re still getting a lot of questions so we opened the article up for everyone.

Most of what follows originally appeared in the Friday File on August 18, 2017, though I’ve added a few updates.

So… what’s he using as bait to fish for our subscription dollars? He says he has identified “The Company Leading the Precision Medicine Revolution” … and that this will be a huge winner as it captures more and more of the health care market.

Let’s check our clues… this is how Mampilly gets our attention:

“The Greatest Medical Breakthrough In History

“More Important Than Every Drug, Vaccination and Medical Device … COMBINED!

“Experts Declare This Is ‘A Revolutionary Approach to Tackling Disease’ That Will Completely ‘Change the Game’ and Ignite ‘A Health Revolution.'”

And these are the hints he throws out to tantalize us:

“A mid-Western company is on the precipice of the greatest medical breakthrough in the history of mankind….

“In fact, this new method will make diseases that were once considered “untreatable” or perhaps even “death sentences” … things of the past.”

OK, so it’s “mid-Western” … what else?

We’re told that it is a $1.5 billion company. And that it is involved in “precision medicine” … so what is it that he means by “precision medicine?” Here’s some more from the ad:

“Imagine looking at a person’s DNA, that person’s blueprint, and being able to design a medicine to fit that person’s specific genetic makeup … the same way you can custom tailor a suit to fit an individual … to prevent a disease from ever developing.

“If that were possible … chronic diseases like arthritis, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, heart disease, Parkinson’s … could be wiped out simply by looking at a person’s DNA.

“Well, this is where we are in history.

“The impossible is now possible, thanks in part to this $1.5 billion Mid-Western company….

“In simple terms, precision medicine allows doctors to accurately identify which medicines and treatments will work best to prevent a patient from getting a particular disease … and which medicines and treatments will work best for a patient to overcome an existing disease … all based on a person’s genes.”

OK, but there are lots of companies that are involved with what they would call “precision medicine,” whether that means doing the actual genetic testing or building machines that enable that testing, or marketing specific tests, or customizing treatments. It’s a broad area. Anything else about this specific company?

Not much… there are lots of stories of success of “precision medicine,” none of which have much in common when it comes to the actual treatment or drug that the person received, and none of which are publicly associated with a particular testing regimen or company that I’ve seen. At least one of the stories is pulled from the (Obama) White House’s “precision medicine initiative” page, another comes from the City of Hope National Medical Center folks. They’re great stories, and they buttress the powerful pitch for precision medicine just fine… but they’re not about one company.

So what else do we get that hints at this company? Here are our other hints:

“Formed in the early 1990s, this Mid-Western-based company’s CEO is a 25-year biotech pioneer, and he’s using his industry contacts to bring some of the top scientific minds in the world to work in these hilltop facilities…”

And they include a photo of the headquarters… which will be key in a moment in confirming the Thinkolator’s work…

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“It is leading the industry in molecular diagnostic DNA sequencing to assess whether a person will develop a disease and to determine which drug therapy a person will best respond to.

“More specifically, this company’s sequencing targets various forms of cancer, from ovarian to breast to lung to uterine to prostate, and rheumatoid arthritis.”

So who is it? Well, thanks to good ol’ Google Earth I can confirm with certainty that this “mid-western hilltop” is actually in Utah, on the outer fringe of Salt Lake City, and the company is Myriad Genetis (MYGN). Here’s my picture that I grabbed from Google, in case you’re looking for confirmation as you compare it to the photo in Mampilly’s ad:

Myriad Genetics is indeed a “personalized medicine” and diagnostics company, they make their money by selling and processing tests that check for cancer risk, or that identify specific cancer variants and predict disease progressions and treatment efficacy. They do have non-cancer testing programs as well, but it’s largely cancer testing that drives revenue now… and, indeed, the vast majority of their revenue still comes from what they call “hereditary cancer screening,” mostly in breast and colon cancer so far, where their tests help to identify people who have mutations that dramatically increase their risk (and, importantly, where there are early-stage interventions that can reduce that risk if people are tested… which can make the tests much more appealing to insurers because they present prevention possibilities).

Myriad’s stock has performed pretty well since the original teaser back in August of last year… Mampilly’s teaser ad was originally dated July (it no longer carries a date), so that means he likely started recommending it when the stock was somewhere in the $24-25 range, before that good earnings report boosted the shares a bit in September, but after a series of good news events had helped the stock recover from the recent lows. It was a $1.5 billion stock in the Summer, it is currently a $2.2 billion stock.

My read of the situation is that shares bottomed out around $15 in February after falling sales due to competitive pressure for some of their hereditary cancer risk tests (the Supreme Court disallowed their patents on the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes a few years ago, opening the market for competitors to offer similar tests in what had been, and still is, their core business), but recovered as clinical trials helped to prove the power of some of their screening tests, and as insurers started to cover some of those newer tests.

Myriad still seems to be the leader in this kind of hereditary cancer screening, probably partly because their monopoly position for a few years gave them a huge library of data on cancer variants and mutations that their competitors don’t have (there’s been controversy about their monopoly control of that data as well), but they’re still facing more competition than they would like, and insurers who continue to demand pretty strict efficacy before paying for tests, and it seems like pricing has been a little softer than expected.

It’s hard to draw any clear lines for Myriad’s success based just on their financials — the past four years have seen revenues pretty much flat, and there has been no particular trend of earnings growth (though they have bought back a bunch of shares), and the analyst growth estimates are not particularly compelling. Earnings per share took a big hit in 2017, but analysts expect them to rise about 15-20% annually over the next few years and get back to those 2016 levels by 2020. So from here, that’s a reasonably attractive growth rate but not necessarily a compelling one for what is supposed to be a high-growth “hot sector” biotech stock. The valuation right now is certainly reasonable for a 15% grower, the shares trade hands at about 24X forward adjusted earnings estimates, but it’s not a clear bargain. And, of course, MYGN’s GAAP earnings are far, far lower than their reported “adjusted” earnings that most analysts still stick with — if you use GAAP earnings they’re trading at 38X forward earnings.

Which means you can’t find your prognosis in the numbers — you’ll have to make an argument about their particular testing products being more successful than analysts expect, or becoming foundational to the industry over time and growing beyond this current “recovery” period as new tests come online and get adopted by doctors and patients.

If everyone’s going to use Myriad tests in five years, and everyone will have health insurance that cheerfully pays retail prices for genotyping cancers or screening patients, then it almost doesn’t matter what you pay for MYGN shares today — but that, of course, is a tough projection to make in a competitive world. Even if, as Mampilly argues, the market for precision medicine is going to grow at an “exponential rate.”

I don’t know enough to make that prognosis for you, I’m afraid — you can check out their latest investor presentation here, in which they make the case for their growth prospects, and judge for yourself. The diversification into new segments seems appealing, including the GeneSight test for assessing which antidepressant has the best chance of success for a particular patient and the Vectra DA test for assessing rheumatoid arthritis treatment, each of which has become roughly a third of testing volume now (the core business of hereditary cancer testing has not growth much in volume, but it used to be almost 100% of the business and now it’s only about a third of the business by volume) … but I don’t have any real wisdom to build on in those areas, so I’ll stick with the financials.

On consensus estimates about earnings for the next few years, the stock is probably priced about right with a PEG ratio of about 2 (meaning the forward PE ratio is about twice the expected long-term growth rate). Paying more means you think the company’s market-leading position is worth paying a premium for, or that the analysts are being too conservative in judging the growth of the overall market for these types of genetic tests, insisting on a lower price probably means you’re a bit worried about competitive pressures (or insurance companies) keeping pricing down. I’m not particularly interested in buying this one, but it’s not ridiculous.

And in case this whole thing sounds a bit familiar, that might be because Mampilly pitched a different “personalized medicine” stock for his much pricier Extreme Fortunes letter starting back in February of 2017 — the broad “personalized medicine” pitch was similar that time around, though the company specifics that time pointed directly at Foundation Medicine (FMI), which has done very well so far (and which is much less established than Myriad — FMI is almost as large as Myriad, with a market cap of about $1.3 billion, and is currently growing top-line revenues much more quickly, from a much smaller base, but is nowhere close to making a profit). As a reflex, looking briefly at FMI just now made me like MYGN more… but that might just be because I’m feeling cheap and skeptical today.

Since this teaser solution was first released, Myriad has had some news in the breast cancer business — they launched their “riskScore” algorithm that improves assessments of breast cancer risk (basically, by combining family history data with Myriad’s myRisk hereditary cancer genetic test), and they also released data supporting that test at the 2017 San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium. They have a presentation up on their website explaining the value of the riskScore program that can provide some perspective — essentially, what riskScore provides is an assessment of your “at risk” probability if you don’t have the obvious “high risk” flag of a positive BRCA test, so it can say that your genetic test result is negative but that you also have a 30% or 50% (or whatever) lifetime risk for breast cancer. Higher risk individuals can be funneled into more aggressive monitoring, like MRI’s instead of just annual mammograms.

I don’t know whether this will be embraced by insurers and providers, or what the cost will be or whether it will increase usage of the myRisk genetic tests (which presumably are more expensive than the riskScore program), but it’s clearly good news that the test and assessment appears to be useful, and investors have reacted to that. Analysts have not changed their outlook at the moment, so the financials above are still accurate, and I still don’t have any opinion other than that the stock doesn’t seem particularly over- or under-priced.

My call isn’t the important one here, though, not when it comes to your money — for that, we turn the microphone over to you… what do you think? Is Myriad Genetics going to be a barn-burner again? Are analysts being too optimistic or pessimistic? Let us know with a comment below. We’ve kept all the original comments from the first version of this article appended below, in case those insights from readers prove to be helpful… thanks for reading!

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Ken
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September 25, 2017 12:22 pm

Hi
I’m a subscriber to Profits Unlimited and haven’t seen this one recommended, or in his eportfolio

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Ken
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September 25, 2017 4:47 pm

Hi Travis
One possible explanation is that it was a teaser for one of the expensive services that Banyan Hill sells. I only have profits unlimited which cost only $47 for the first year. At least once a week they try to upsell me into a service that costs like $2000 a year. So far I haven’t bitten on those.
Ken

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September 26, 2017 8:59 pm
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Don’t bother biting on those more expensive subs. In this case you don’t get what you pay for.

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SoGiAm
September 27, 2017 10:57 am
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The ONLY subscription to buy is to stockgumshoe.com
Travis is a rear jewel, in this effed up world of wolves!
Long Gummunity! Best2ALL 🙂

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Ken
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September 27, 2017 11:45 am
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I am a free subscriber now and considering becoming an irregular guy 🙂

dealerdeb1
November 20, 2017 8:18 am
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Don’t Hesitate because Travis is the best in the business. Why buy all these letter when all you need is the tease that Travis figures out for us. Isn’t investing our decision ultimately?

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joe
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December 14, 2017 5:21 am
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and without the extra added expense. That was a terrible mistake I made by getting upsold to EXTREME PROFITS from Banyan Hill.[God, I’m so sorry]

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January 7, 2018 3:06 am
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I just opted out and turned BH into the BBB. I was disgusted with paying for a subscription only to receive advertisements without access to anything. They are promptly refunding me.

Laura
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May 24, 2018 10:41 pm
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I bought it and cancelled in the first 30 days. It was easy. Full refund. Please take note…If you are unhappy, just cancel within the trial. I kept True Momentum, and have been happy with it, but it was expensive. Extreme Profits is the most volatile of his 3 base subscriptions. It wasn’t for me. He has a new “Million Dollar” that sounds even more volatile – specian$4995, with a $495 annual fee. Yikes!

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October 1, 2017 11:21 am
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His star must be like an ass-terisk.

dealerdeb1
November 20, 2017 8:17 am
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Ever since I found Travis I have ZERO interest in other people’s newsletters. Travis is the BEST why buy the chicken when the eggs are cheap? LOL not free I have a paid account here and only here. Although George Schneider at Seeking Alpha is pretty straight as well. He has a newsletter but I’m too poor to buy all these things.

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December 11, 2017 2:30 pm
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I second that. Michael Carr might be the only other good candidate on Banyan Hill.

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December 11, 2017 3:42 pm
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You can get PU for $19 for six months.

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January 11, 2018 7:51 pm
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Travis what have you invested in so far? I receive so many up selling emails that i’m probably missing the right emails.

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martimark
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September 27, 2017 5:05 am

For whatever it is worth, I did a small play of about 6k with STM based on his recommendation and almost doubled it in 9 months. He does seem to have a knack.

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Bibnang
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November 28, 2017 4:32 pm

why

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epicprince
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December 18, 2017 2:43 pm

he also teased fmi and look at that

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October 2, 2017 9:02 pm
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Made 160% return on STM … bought it when he came out with the IOT pitch …. even before he added to the portfolio.

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joe
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December 14, 2017 5:24 am
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i will say PAUL MAMPILLY is gifted and knows his business. I like Pauls demeanor.

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March 15, 2018 1:05 am
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I bought 500 shares about 18 months ago up 300% going to hold another year if. Market stays up.

michale
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September 28, 2017 8:44 am

I think this is a ploy to get current subscribers to extend their subscription. At least that is what happened when I resubscribed.

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Laura
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May 24, 2018 10:32 pm

Mampilly is not allowed to own anything in his portfolios of Banyan Hill. I’m sure he owned it earlier and then when he decided he was ready to sell he move it into Profits Unlimited, – I’ve had good success with the service. – but I also do independent research and sometimes pass on a stock. Overall, I’m a fan.

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October 1, 2017 2:25 pm
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Yes Myriads is under special reports. I bought the STM and made around 22%. Another stock that I bought was PCOM that was revealed by Travis not long ago. I bought them too and so far made 12%. Travis is excellent at revealing all these teasers.

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December 11, 2017 3:34 pm
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I am a Profits Unlimited subscriber too, and it is definitely recommended. Just look in the eportfolio for Nov or Dec and it is in there as a buy near the bottom of the page.

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December 18, 2017 10:43 pm
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On 8/17 Paul added MYRLAD to his Special Report RECOS, HUH? He’s lately showcasing this secret list & that’s when he took STM into his regular portfolio, yet claims that he bought STM @ $5.99, SHAMEFUL of him. 🙂

jrm1960
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September 25, 2017 12:53 pm

#MYGN
I’ve held Myriad since 1999, splits and spin-off adjusted cost basis of $2.44.

Yes, I learned a lesson a few years back when I didn’t sell the collapsing enthusiasm for this quality company, when the patent court setback bolstered competitors. Hindsight teaches, Sell good managment with best in class product when a flood of new competetion will narrow profit margins and shrink market share.

Today, I believe: MYGN is still the quality company in a croweded cancer testing space; that rev’s and net profit will grow going forward for years because of new products that will be well enough accepted into competative markets where customer purchase decisions are not always based on paying for quality; that the market cap has more than doubled in 2017 because of hope that these beliefs will be correct; and that the hope is further supported by a younger generation of investors who think they’ve found something “new” that is taking off.

I’m not buying here, but it feels “safe” at least until co fulfills investors’ hopes–or dashes them. I’m not a short term trader, but the market enthusiasm feels as solid here lately as in any co with a new product in the medical space. Can you momentum traders see a likely 10% up from here? I’m personally thinking about selling 1/2 position at >35.00 and redeploying into other riskier biotechs more likely to be worth holding, for example, the next 18 years.

Good hunting to all!

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September 25, 2017 1:24 pm

Thanks Travis and jrm1960.

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SageNot
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September 25, 2017 3:54 pm

Wasn’t STM his pick before 2018, it’s come down big so far today?

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September 25, 2017 5:57 pm
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It’s still up 200% from last summer.It will go back up When Apple x starts being known.It has a very promising future and should double in each of the next 4 years.

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November 13, 2017 4:10 pm
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I joined PU as he was pushing STM at 8.00 – 9.00 that’s when I got in and that has been a 200 percent increase.

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Steve
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September 25, 2017 8:51 pm

Well, I have far too much to add coherently — I know the company, was there when all the research happened, have decades of advanced work with their “product line,” etc. So to jump to the end of the story, I would NOT buy Myriad in any way or form in the hyped context of Paul Mampilly’s Precision Medicine discussion. Since I just subscribed to his newsletter, and see what his analysis is like in something I know very deeply about, I will cancel [or try to] my subscription. In short, there is NO coherent line of reasoning from his “precision medicine” vision and Myriad’s current capabilities. What in the world is he thinking !!! By the way, we are decades away from a genomic read-out and a correlated medical prescription.

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September 26, 2017 9:02 pm
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If you got PU for less than $50 a year, then don’t cancel it. Just read future issues with open mind. His picks as a whole have done well.

park schimp
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September 26, 2017 3:34 am

Ken, I was taken aback by your comment. As a P U subscriber, I received info on MYGN after market close 9/5/17. I was unable to buy the next day anywhere close to the recommended price. Then I saw MYGN on the e-profile list dated before I was told about it! I have written to P U a second time today to see if I can get a response. I think it is immoral to use the research work to sell memberships for weeks before letting existing subscribers know of the offering, resulting in the stock price being approx 20% higher when we get a chance to look at it. Thanks, Stock Gumshoe.

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Ken
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September 26, 2017 9:36 am
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you are absolutely right. My apologies. It was written up on Sep 5 and somehow I missed it. It is NOT in the Profits Unlimited Portfolio though, but was described as a “bonus stock”. Like a couple of the others, I am hoping the price will drop significantly by which time I may buy.

One of my problems with the service is he has made some recommendations of companies I know and would never have bought on my own, only to turn around and tell us to sell when it starts dropping. I’m like, why did I bother buying this in the first place? Anyway, most of the ones I bought thru PU are up. I know, yes, the market is up too, but most of my Motley Fool recommendations that I purchased several years ago seem unaware of the bull market!

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October 9, 2017 9:36 am
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You are right he does not get them right all the time. However … he did get the IoT technology stock picks right … at least up to this point.

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Laurie
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October 1, 2017 6:52 pm
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Im a newbie with pu and i have notice the same thing with his stick recommendations. They are alway in the expensuve range when i get his recommendations!

Mark Murphy
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October 8, 2017 10:16 pm
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Same thing has been happening to me in Profits Unlimited and Extreme Fortunes. I’ve called and written them and the only response I’ve received is to review Paul’s buying strategy in his manual.

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October 11, 2017 1:25 pm
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Same thing here, sounds like front-running, contacted them about it with no response.

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Laura
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May 24, 2018 10:55 pm
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Call! I’ve had not problem reaching them.

frank_n_steyn
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November 1, 2017 2:52 pm
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Same thing here, I often receive his picks and immediately check the stock and it’s been going up for at least 45 minutes. I asked them several times about front running and if others get his picks before we do with no response.

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November 12, 2017 2:58 am
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how much is Extreme Fortunes?

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December 18, 2017 12:10 pm
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EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE…$3000.00 AND IT IS UNREFUNDABLE. HE GOT ME

Richard R Hoffman
December 23, 2017 7:51 pm
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I was charged $3,219.63 (purchased 12/20/2017).
I didn’t realize that it was non-refundable. They
still haven’t activated my subscription, so I have no idea if I wasted my money. Most of the posts I’ve read are extremely negative, except for Profits Unlimited. I feel that PU is sold at a fair price, to entice you to buy the more expensive newsletters that Paul writes. I was offered the latest one he just came out with for an astronomical price of $14,000. There’s no way that any talented stock advisrr can possible do
justice to so many newsletters. Eventually they will lose credence when word gets around about poor stock picks. I hope Paul Mampilly does well, but he should not be spreading himself so thin.

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December 24, 2017 10:33 am
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A good friend of mine is up over 300% from following Paul after paying the 3000. So much so that I’ve been thinking about following suite. You regret buying? I’m new to stock gumshoe

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May 24, 2018 10:56 pm
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Are you sure it’s not refundable anymore. It was in October.

mary555
October 16, 2017 8:40 pm
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Hi Laurie,
Do you mean the brand new picks when they are released? I have not had a problem buying those in the low to middle range. Sometimes I have to wait a few days to buy them on a dip if a lot of people pile in. I only occasionally buy PM’s picks as I like to do my own research and buy sectors I understand, but overall his entry-level portfolio seems to be doing well. Sometimes I kick myself for not following his lead ; )

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Laura
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May 24, 2018 10:54 pm
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Users that monitor their in basket closely act immediately and it drives the stock up the day of the announcement. If you act quickly great. If not, monitor the stock for 1-3 days and buy on a dip. I’ve had good luck with this strategy. Mampilly says that’s why he gives the buy range.

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October 8, 2017 9:54 pm
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I’m glad you wrote that park schimp, I’ve had the same experience. I don’t want to totally bash Paul yet, but I’m finding that I can rarely get an initial purchase price close to what he gets. I wrote to ask them about this and their response was a canned form letter response about reviewing Paul’s buying strategy.

frank_n_steyn
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October 11, 2017 1:22 pm
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I’ve experienced something similar, just happened to be at my desk the very moment his recommendations arrived, immediately go to the stock and it has been rising for about an hour or so before the recommendation arrives. I emailed them back on those occasions asking if some people get the recom’s earlier than others, or that there may be some front-running going on, with no response, and it continues.

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joeybags
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December 18, 2017 12:14 pm
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I believe the reason that he is ahead of the curve, now that i think about it, is he is in Illinois, I think. And depending where you live and breathe and have your being, will create that 1 to 3 hour time difference. So I doubt its an intentional thing MR. Mampilly is doing

david Verderosa
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January 12, 2018 1:45 pm
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its not like i have to wait three hours in AZ to see the current price of a stock…this makes no sense

Rudra
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January 15, 2018 3:44 pm
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I can’t believe people complain about not being able to buy the stock at the exact recommended price especially since the portfolio is averaging around 30%. For the money paid I couldn’t be happier with PU and I have had it for over a year. I am going to get into True Momentum next. For the most part his stocks are returning around 30% in 3-4 months. And if you read his ,material he clearly says don’t buy your entire position at once, be patient and wait for the dips.

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September 27, 2017 6:10 pm

I bought STM and its doing great so far. His subscription is very affordable not like others who charge 2000.

SoGiAm
October 1, 2017 12:22 am

Paul Mampilly’s latest tease: https://www.stockgumshoe.com/2017/09/microblog-solving-new-mampilly-teaser-could-this-topple-ford-toyota-and-tesla/ There aren’t too many specific clues. He says that it’s a ”tiny company” and that it ”builds the technology for the car companies” giving it many revenue streams because it’s working with ”dozens of automakers”. He adds, ”It’s cornering the market at this very moment locking down a contract with one of the world’s largest automotive manufacturers.” He says the stock is starting to take off and is ”set to soar”

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October 1, 2017 11:44 am
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genetic tests for cancer are also available–free!–to survivers with a nasty family history of breast cancer, which covers me and my daughter as well. I have two aunts, one on each side of the family plus 2 cousins who had breast cancer and also me, a survivor of 22 years. Our daughter also has an aunt on her father’s side who got breast cancer at a young age and again in her 70s (on the other side.) Yet neither of us has a known genetic flaw–meaning that if it is genetic (we are of Ashkenazic Jewish heritage) the errant gene is not yet known as of my most recent free test earlier this year. So having a test in production is not the only key to success in cancer screening because most of the trigger genes are not yet known about.

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mary555
October 4, 2017 5:04 pm
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PettyFan solved this teaser early this morning and posted it on the thread I started:
https://www.stockgumshoe.com/2017/09/microblog-solving-new-mampilly-teaser-could-this-topple-ford-toyota-and-tesla/comment-page-1/#comment-4953390

Let’s all give her/him a thumbs up!

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December 13, 2017 5:55 am
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MBLY is probably this software co. for driverless cars.

SageNot
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October 1, 2017 12:11 pm

Yep, Mampilly has flip-flopped here. Why, i guess we’ll have to ask him, but he doesn’t reply as his readers know.

SageNot
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October 1, 2017 12:33 pm
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I forget to add, here is Yastine’s view on Mampilly’s best pick, STM.
https://pro.banyanhill.com/p/SVSSVC17/L190T934/Full?h=true

Maybe we’re getting double-teamed here, yah think? 🙂

laketangler
October 1, 2017 12:19 pm

Over the past 30+years I have subscribed to dozens of entry level services in the hope that I could glean a little bit of knowledge about investing in different areas of the market. I have followed many different strategies and recos, with mixed results, but have managed to build a very comfortable retirement portfolio. I rarely renewed any of those subscriptions, but as a previous customer, I still continue to get their e-mails trying to sell me either a renewal or an upgrade. Those e-mails have become a great source of revenue for me by figuring out what stock is recommended, then selling puts against the inevitable bounce generated by the promo, then waiting for the pullback when the hype has subsided. Yes, I have been “put” a few stocks over the years, but I am getting them at a price I am willing to pay anyway. Most recently, Sold 20 Ford $12.oo puts for $1.26 and was “put the stock on Sep. 15 when it was trading at $11.33. Net profit if I had sold on Sep. 18, $1180.00 for a 27 day holding period. I still hold the long position since it is still creeping higher, and am looking for a little higher premium before selling covered calls a month or two out. Since discovering Stock Gumshoe a couple of years ago, my life has gotten much easier. Most of the heavily hyped stocks are covered by Travis, thus saving me the time and trouble of trying to identify the position. I still do my own research after getting the name, but sometimes finding the name takes the most time. Thank you Travis.

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December 11, 2017 10:59 pm
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My experience completely, laketangler and oddly enough exactly the same for Ford! I got PUT my $12 strike shares and have held as F creeps higher. Next step is selling covered calls and clearing them if they decline to a low price or letting them ride to call away time and/or valueless bids at expiration. I have no respect for all the hyped up tease letters and constantly hyped promotions. Travis saves me time and money. I once took Mampilly’s service, found-out the hype so quickly quit for a refund; never again! Bravo Travis. Worth every penny and the only “letter” you need.

Thomas
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Thomas
October 1, 2017 10:12 pm

Hi SageNot
The $ 1 trillion industry stock Jeff Yastine is teasing about is CyberArk (CYBR). I bought 1000 shares to hold for 3-4 years. Hopefully, the stock will behave as what Jeff predicted.

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October 3, 2017 7:05 am
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Do you have subscription. Could it be rapid 7 as well?

Thomas
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October 3, 2017 11:26 pm
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Yes. I subscribed Jeff Yastine’s Total Wealth Insider. I am 1000% sure it is CYBR and I bought it. We will see how it goes.

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william1959
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October 3, 2017 12:44 pm

do not buy PM’s $2k Momentum service! It has 6 stocks in it and has not added
1 stock in 4 months! Has his more expensive service done any better?

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mary555
October 16, 2017 8:29 pm
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I don’t understand, william1959: We figured out two of his True Momentum picks here on Stockgumshoe in the past two months and we are working on a third that is due out tomorrow. The two we solved each went up about twenty percent. Perhaps you should contact the customer service dept. to find out why you are not receiving PM’s emails.

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deano1
October 10, 2017 4:41 pm

On this same topic of genetics advances, who is the $6M gene editing company that Michael Robinson’s “Radical Technology Profits” is pitching, also in the same arena as the greatest medical breakthrough EVER?

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d69doyle
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October 16, 2017 6:47 am
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I believe it was blcm

Not Saying
December 12, 2017 10:05 pm
Reply to  d69doyle

EDIT ,gene splice
BLCM for turning off DNA therapy

mary555
November 3, 2017 3:13 pm
Reply to  deano1

Hi deano1,
It’s not a six million dollar company. It had 6 million in revenues and the company is EDIT . This is an old teaser that they are recycling. If you look at the stock, it peaked in Feb. on the news that they won the lawsuit but all three of the crispr companies are selling for about the same price currently (clearly not a winner take all situation). The field is moving fast and it’s not clear who the winners will be. If you want to invest in the basic science you might put a small bet on all three. Not investing advice just my personal opinion. I own no stock in any of these companies.

PS Before subscribing to expensive newsletters check here first. Travis solves many of them and those he doesn’t have time for are often solved by the Gummunity. You can show your appreciation by joining Stockgumshoe – the least expensive and the most valuable newsletter I have found (IMHO).

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stvski
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October 16, 2017 7:40 pm

Hi new member of Gumshoe love the insight . Any ideas on Paul Mampilly new cyber security stock pick .

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Frank
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October 24, 2017 10:30 pm

I just got an email from Mampilly and co. today and looks like they’re charging 3k for their premium newsletter Extreme Fortunes. But they really reveal what they’re all about when it states this “greatest” stock has not even been revealed to their existing newsletter subscribers.

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swing trader
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October 26, 2017 7:19 pm

Anyone buying some MYGN on this pull back. I’m buying in increments as it drops. Hope the long term play resumes as Mampilly suggests.

MoonLight
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November 1, 2017 5:01 pm

JL Yastin from Banyan Hill Publishing is a sly old fox!:) Probably the most dishonest of them all. Some of his recommendations such as SRCL and UAA bombed BIG TIME and people lost like 30-40% of their money from following him. What is really disturbing is he doesn’t include those “closed out” recommendations on his profile, so when you look at it, his recommendations and “gains” appears a lot nicer than what it really is! Beware of that.

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kit rens
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November 3, 2017 1:33 am

FMI climbed huge at the time of his presentation to sell u true momentum. It climbed exactly on that day. it didn’t go much further than that.

Profits unlimited is a pump n dump scheme IMO.

There are two many loose nuts in Sovereign Society routines.

Here’s the latest new big sell. I love he personally states now, that he can’t personally invest in this new tip, but you must… LMAO. There’s various bs variables to why he states that…

Here:

Mampilly is BS. His portfolio is never a true reflection. The weeds are pulled out. They pump and dump. His news is not news that can’t be found elsewhere.

lol. his recent bs pump. Always starts with something like Next week I”m going to give you the NEXT BIG THING… this is the “pump”.

On Monday, I will be making a major recommendation to my True Momentum members.

The recommendation involves an opportunity I think could quite easily triple your money as this situation evolves … meaning every $5,000 invested could return as $20,000.

And I’m confident because, not too long ago…

I made over 20-times my money on this exact stock.

You see, this is a firm I was watching carefully for some time … and personally invested my money into.

It paid off.

And in short order, I made a 2,539% return in less than a year.

But, I saw the headwinds coming and got out.

Sure enough, government agencies and mishaps in the company set them back, causing me to sell before the stock plummeted.

Now, times have changed … all of those hurdles have been conquered…

And my data shows the stock is about to go on another tear to the top.

Not only do I expect it to hand early investors a quick windfall … but with the momentum it’s gathered, I expect this stock to soar higher in the months ahead … unleashing a gain upwards of 300% for those in before things start to truly heat up.

I’ll be issuing a buy alert with full details on this investment to my True Momentum readers Monday morning.

For company policy reasons, I can’t personally invest in this stock this time around while recommending it to my readers … but it’s an absolute screaming “buy.”

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Ken
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November 3, 2017 9:10 am
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I’m not sure about the high priced services but I’ve been in Profits unlimited for 6 months or so and it seems like a great service. I didn’t buy everything at the time it was recommended and I agree it’s rarely available at the recommended price, but 3/4 or more of my holdings are up, even counting the ones that he told us to get out of (most of which I stayed in as my exposure to any individual stock is low). Now I know that “everything” is up in the last 6 months, but looking at my Motley fool recommendations going back 5 years, there is a big string of losers that have never benefited from any of the bull markets. There are a half dozen motley fool stocks that I’ve lost my shirt on. They recommend it, it goes down and down and down, and you never hear from them again on it but it’s still on their list. At least Mampilly sends a weekly podcast and makes any immediate recommendations in between, and he addresses the stocks he recommended. For the same price as Motley Fool. It’s a no brainer that I have dumped Motley fool and their “long term” approach to big losses

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mary555
November 3, 2017 2:59 pm
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Hi kit rens,
On what date/s did Mampilly promote FMI? Did it fall afterward (i.e. pump and dump)? I’m not a member of True Momentums but I did figure out one of his picks beforehand and bought it –NTNX at 21.5 That one has done very well and just continues to climb with more and more analysts jumping on board. I thought the deal with True Momentum was to identify stocks that are moving up (independent of promotion) and the company’s financials suggest that have staying power and will continue to grow. Extreme Profits, on the other hand, appears to be much more speculative with extreme gains and losses. I subscribe to the least inexpensive Profits Unlimited (47 dollars a year) newsletter and many but not all of those picks are solid and hold their value a year or two out. I’ve invested in a couple of his recommendations but don’t invest in the entire portfolio because many of the stocks (Paypal, Autodesk, STM etc.) already have huge gains and high price tags and are beyond their recommended buy points. We’d appreciate your sharing your experience and insight on True Momentums or other stock recommendations he makes because some of us enjoy figuring out the picks and then investing (or not).

Happy Trading,
Mary555

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Rudra
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January 15, 2018 5:49 pm
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He hasn’t dumped anything and his stock picks have returned decent gains. My only losing positions with PU were IBM (I bought in three months after he called it.) and Lowes. I am not looking for things to triple I am just looking for decent returns and he has delivered.

Also no “weeds” were pulled out – his portfolio shows ALL closed positions winners and losers.

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Swing Trade
November 3, 2017 12:54 pm

Bought more MYGN at <$29/sh on this huge pull back. Had good study results for GeneSight.

MoonLight
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MoonLight
November 3, 2017 5:16 pm

To be fair, Paul’s Profit Unlimited newsletter is one of the best I have came across. Most of his picks in there are rock solid. You can’t find a better newsletter like that for under $100 per year. However, they use that newsletter is a marketing strategy (for advertising) to lure investors into more expensive subscriptions such as Extreme Fortunes or True Momentum, claiming much higher returns. They target basic human nature of greed and easy money! True some of some recommendations from EF are up a lot, but it’s no way near what they make you to believe what they can deliver. Also, you have to be willing to take huge risk and have the stomach for it. Some of his trades can swing in either direction by as much as 30-40% in 1 day! You can lost 50% or more of whatever you are willing to invest in. Look at PI- it dropped almost 40% in 1 day! Look at KNDI. What people don’t realize is they think EVERY of Paul’s pick is a winner. Right now, almost half of his EF picks are losers. Overall, I still think he is the best in the Bayan Hill group. Chad Snoop’s Automatic Profits is garbage- like 10 losers for every 2 winners. JL Yastin is the worst. Most of picks are losers such SBS, SRCL and most recently UAA. People lost like 30-40% from SRCL and UAA. What’s more disturbing is he never includes any of the closed out trades on his profile, so you only see winners!:) Go figure.

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mary555
November 3, 2017 7:17 pm
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Hi Moonlight,
I too think that P.M.s entry level newsletter is a best-buy at only 47 dollars a year (plus an additional 39.00 for the second year if you sign up for both at one time). I would pay 100 to 200 dollars a year for it if I didn’t come wrapped in Banyan Hill spam. Also, Profits Unlimited is fully refundable, unlike Banyan’s other pricier newsletters. That and Stockgumshoe (which is priceless) are the only two newsletters I subscribe to. I think Mampilly’s reputation is being trashed by his association with Banyan. I bet he would have hundreds of thousands of happy subscribers if he struck out on his own and just posted honest solid picks (like those in Profits Unlimited).

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MoonLight
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November 4, 2017 10:41 am
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Hi Mary,
I enjoyed all of your postings and great job on deciphering some of Paul’s picks! You might even convince me to subscribe to StockGumShoe!:)
Let’s all work together and see what Paul’s TM tease is for Monday. If I can get the correct pick here from you guys, I am willing to give out one of his EF picks in return. Sounds like a fair deal? Thanks everyone.

mary555
November 4, 2017 1:54 pm
Reply to  MoonLight

Hi Moonlight,
I have solved this one and plan to post it Monday morning after the market opens and I have placed a small trade. Please send me an email if you would like to discuss at mary555@gmail.com.
Happy sleuthing and trading to all!

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mary555
November 4, 2017 2:09 pm
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PS One of the reasons I stay with Profits Unlimited is that Paul Mampilly shares all of the trades including the losses and closed out positions so one can get a realistic picture of how PU is doing. You can also get an idea of the sectors he’s good (or not) at picking. Travis is even more amazing: he shows you his actual portfolio and discusses the gains and losses. Travis is invested in sectors that I have no experience with so this is very helpful and broadning for me. Plus he writes such wonderfully entertaining and illuminating columns. I’m long Stockgumshoe and PU ; )
If anyone is really happy with other newsletters that are honest, successful and reasonably priced please send me an email mary555@gmail.com
or share them here.
Happy trading,
mary555

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MoonLight
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November 4, 2017 2:52 pm
Reply to  mary555

Sounds good Mary. I just sent you an email and gave you the lowdown on one of the EF trades.
Thanks.

mary555
November 4, 2017 4:56 pm
Reply to  MoonLight

OOPS! I’ve been up all night working on a research proposal. I gave you the wrong email address. Let me know if the one you sent bounces back. There might be another Mary out there scratching her head right now ; )
Here is the correct email for me: mmqc555@gmail.com

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MoonLight
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November 4, 2017 6:30 pm
Reply to  mary555

Ok. I’ll send you another email. Let me know if you don’t get it.

mary555
November 6, 2017 10:32 am
Reply to  mary555

As promised: Paul’s True Momentum Pick, which will be released shortly, is SRPT Sarepta Therapeutics. It has been climbing for several days on earnings beat and other news. This is not investment advice. I just like to solve puzzles ; )

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