I’m updating this quickie teaser solution for you today because we’re getting a LOT of questions about it over the past few days. The ad originally ran in mid-January and we published the first version of this article on January 20, but it is still circulating widely. The ad seems identical to the one we covered in January, but I’ve updated this article for you today.
The pitch is from Stephen Leeb, it’s an ad for his Real World Investing ($1,495/yr, no refunds), and it’s another mining story… this is the intro:
“Discovered: $26 Billion Treasure Trove 48 Miles North of the Arctic Circle
“Move on this tiny $2 company today and you could walk away with $312,400”
And the catalyst for all of these riches, apparently, is that they’re about to build a road to make this huge “treasure trove” accessible:
“As you’ve seen, a road is being planned in Alaska to reach a massive deposit of copper — a substance more important to our modern way of life than gold, silver, platinum, or lithium.
“After five years of prep work, endless meetings, and legal wrangling, the wheels are finally in motion to unlock $26 billion in trapped wealth and bring it to the outside world.
“And one small company is sitting on the motherlode of it all.
“Its stock is now so cheap that it gives you the chance to turn $10,000 into $312,400… and possibly much more.
“And it’s all coming to a head in the coming weeks.”
And the latest versions of the ad really push the “insiders are buying” spiel… here’s what an email I got noted on Wednesday:
“So when the people running this company started betting millions of their own personal money on a project that’s been in the works since the 1980s, it got my attention.
“The man who led the firm for 15 years has bought 2.8 million shares – currently worth $5.6 million. And he bought them all on his own. They weren’t gifted to him as a stock option or bonus.
“The new CEO is being paid entirely in company stock. He must be awfully upbeat about his company’s future.
“The CFO just invested another $279,800, bringing her holdings to $1.74 million.
“The VP has been buying shares, too. He says he feels like selling his house to buy more.”
So what’s the story? You can see the rest of the ad here if you like, but we’ll just jump to our answer.
That $312,400 is not, of course, a likely outcome — that’s what Leeb describes as one “scenario” that could have the stock spiking to almost $50 a share from the current $2ish. I suppose it’s not impossible, but don’t count your chickens.
What’s being teased here is Trilogy Metals (TMQ in both Toronto and NY) and its projects in the Ambler Mining District in Alaska that htey call the Upper Kobuk Mineral Projects.
The name might not sound familiar, but Trilogy used to be called NovaCopper and was spun out of NovaGold about eight years ago. Stephen Leeb, in case you’re curious, has been a big fan of these folks for many years and was teasing Novagold as a favorite in the years after the global financial crisis… so in case you need an extra reason to be cautious, or you haven’t yet seen how challenging the large-scale mining business can be, we’ll note that Novagold, which had two projects they wanted to develop but has now sold one of them in addition to spinning off its founder and its copper project to what is now Trilogy, has spent well over ten years working to develop a major gold mine in Alaska (Donlin Gold is one of the world’s largest potential mines, with a very high average grade), but hasn’t ever actually built anything or generated any revenue in almost 25 years. In fact, Novagold would almost have to double today to get back to the $16 hostile takeover offer they rejected in 2006 from Barrick (ABX), which owns the other half of Donlin Gold.
But that Novagold business is neither here nor there — what’s this Trilogy copper story? Like Novagold’s Donlin, their lead project is a 50/50 joint venture — the copper-focused projects in the Ambler district are owned by a joint venture with South32 (SHTLF), which is a collection of “non-core” projects in the US, Australia and Colombia spun out of BHP Billiton a few years ago but also, importantly, has a lot of revenue and cash to support building more projects (they’re putting up $145 million in cash). They have some strong institutional backing, like Novagold (John Paulson, Electrum, Baupost, etc.).
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And the insider details match up, though the tease is misleading — yes, insiders have been buying, with some big spurts of buying last fall, and there have been a few ‘real’ purchases of stock on the open market… but the big transactions for the vast majority of those insider shares look like they were mostly stock option exercises. They didn’t sell all the stock once they exercised the option, so I guess that’s a good sign, but nor have they recently been putting up a lot of money to buy the stock at $2 a share (or even at $1.50).
And, yes, a road is key — there are other mines in northwest Alaska, like the Red Dog Mine, but they’re close enough to the ocean that they don’t need massive roads — the Ambler Mining District is more isolated, and the next step is to get a road permitted and built that could connect the district to the highway and then to the railroad for shipping ore out of the port at Anchorage. There are a couple options for roads, depending on whether or not they have to go around some National Park lands, and the expectation is that a permitting decision on the road will come quite soon, perhaps in the next few months — there’s a good summary here from the Frontiersman if you’re interested.
Assuming that permit is granted and they move forward to begin building the road, which is no small feat, then Trilogy enters into permitting — one big Federal permit and a bunch of state ones, and the permitting process, they expect, will take about three years. After that they’ll have to have raised the larger chunk of money for mine construction, which presumably won’t be cheap in this remote area at the edge of the arctic circle, and they say the engineering and construction of the mine will likely take about three years… so this is likely to be a permitting and exploration-driven story for the next five or six years, moving based on success or delays in the permitting or financing process and on new discoveries or assessments they publish along the way as a result of the ongoing drilling exploration.
The prefeasibility highlights for the Arctic project that they post in their latest investor presentation sound impressive — a huge open pit with 5% copper equivalent grades, including meaningful amounts of zinc, lead, gold and silver, and they say they calculate the post-tax net present value at $1.4 billion, with a 33% internal rate of return. And there’s also some potential in their second location (Bornite, which is nearby), which looks like it’s another meaningful copper cache and also hosts a substantial amount of cobalt.
So that all sounds lovely, a $350 million company like Trilogy owning even half of that $1.4 billion “value” — but, of course, that’s a prefeasibility study and there are a lot of variables that could change meaningfully in the 5-10 years it would take to actually begin producing copper from Arctic (and that $350 million valuation was on January 20… it’s back down to $210 million today).
And, of course, even going just by the prefeasibility study. the guess is that the initial capital cost of building the project will be almost $800 million, which is easily justified if the production and pricing works out as they imagine (they anticipate $450 million in annual free cash flow from the mine, so “payback” is only two years), but it’s still a LOT of money and a long period of time before this might become a real business. And the next update to their projections, the “feasibility study for the arctic project,” could shake up that expectation considerably (good or bad), is now expected sometime in the second quarter.
So yes, a road will be a big deal in this part of Alaska, and they need it to move forward with the project… but there are lots of other permitting and financing steps along the way, so investors today will have to hope both that all of the permitting goes well and that copper prices are favorable over the next ten years (and, particularly, that copper prices are rising happily at the time that they go looking for mine financing).
So sure, things could go very well with good permitting response, a fast and successful construction period, and strong copper prices over the next five years… but don’t get too confident about any of that being guaranteed. All you have to do is look at the stock price since we first posted this teaser solution in January to see how the market treats copper companies and early-stage mining projects during times of recession fear — it was right around $2.50 on January 20, and today it’s down to $1.50. That’s leverage both to “fear” and to the copper price — the spot price of copper is down thanks to China’s slowdown, from $2.75 to about $2.55/lb during that time, so that’s about a 7% decline and copper is still pretty close to where it was six months ago. The stock is down by 40%… whether that’s appealing or terrifying to you will have to be your call. Here’s the chart going back a year so you can see the tendency these shares have had, over time, to be levered to relatively small moves in copper prices (the blue line is Trilogy shares, the orange one monthly copper prices).
This isn’t the kind of thing I like to invest in very often, building big mines over long periods of time, but that doesn’t mean it can’t work out — if you’ve got an opinion about Trilogy or these Ambler projects in Alaska, please let us know with a comment below. I’ve kept the original comments from January attached here, so you can see how your fellow readers were feeling about it at $2.50 and maybe get a little additional perspective.
P.S. And yes, I thought this one sounded a little bit familiar — so I went back and checked, and it turns out that this “$2 hero company” was also teased by Leeb as an absolute steal in September of 2018, when it was in fact just about at $2 a share… with the story at that time spun largely around the potential that they might also eventually produce cobalt.
So, what I’m getting from this is drop 200$ on this and forget about for the next 10 years and see what it is then?
I don’t think miners are ever “set and forget” speculations — if I were
To buy I’d hope for a surge of copper/mining sentiment or a big new boost to reserves at some point and try to sell during a nice mania. Odds of something bringing the stock down sharply again at some point in the next decade are pretty good, so mine builders are generally companies I’d want to watch, not buy and ignore.
And, of course, if you pony up $1,500 a year for Lene’s newsletter you should be planning to invest at least $50,000 a year into that sector — I think that if you’re spending more than 2-3% of your investable assets for advice (and even that’s a lot), you’ll really decrease your odds of success over time.
Mining, this is the same old approach of “Salting the Mine” game. Grew up in Bisbee AZ home of one of at the time, largest copper open pit mine called the Copper Queen. It takes years and a whole lot of dough to get a new mining operation off the ground. Put your money on the Lottery.
I always LOSE at the Lottery – except ONE TIME when the CLERK in the 911 store STOLE MY TICKET .
@frederick Stickler – I would rather put my money into WPG. About the same price and get a dividend to boot. Mines are a big hole surrounded by PR (prevarications). Much like Mall stocks.
That’s good advice on advice, Travis, but heck, I don’t even have the $1500, much less the $50,000. 🙂
Not going to lose any sleep over $200 . . ..
…tom…
Yep
Lend me $200!
I think Barrick changed its ticker to GOLD when it merged with RandGold November 2018.
You’re right, sorry, was just going by memory.
Update on my MASSIVE purchase of TMQ – I have LOST 8 cents so far!
Good thing most trades are now free.
Far more MAJOR loss NOW!
GOLD is DEAD!
The pump: When I got the email from Leeb last week, I noodled it out for fun, bought some shares, sold them three days later for a 20c/share gain, and now the stock is almost back to where I bought it.
I didn’t buy enough to retire, so I guess I’ll retain my Irregular status here. 🙂
I would like to know who will get the contract for the road an invest in that company. Any thoughts?
Haven’t looked, but it will be a one lane gravel road and my guess is it would be done with state support so probably there are a few likely contractors in Alaska that are likely to get the work. Not much chance that they’re public companies, but you never know.
I live nearby, and will point out that public sentiment over the proposed road and it’s permitting process is VERY sharply divided. The Frontiersman newspaper’s article looks a bit optimistic to me. Any chance of cutting through National Park land is slim, so Routing Option C may be more likely than Option A.
Also, the State of Alaska itself, is in no position to fund ANYTHING right now.
I just discovered Gumshoe, and like the honest and calm writing style. Will probably sign up.
Thanks Tim, helpful feedback … and welcome!
The giant international construction outfits usually win the larger contracts, up here in Alaska. Local outfits do often get sub-contract supporting roles.
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Thanks for the welcome! I recently dropped $99 for my first stock newsletter because i wanted some generalized education. But most of what i got were exclamation points and hype (ok – guess i DID learn something)…
I’ve found more of my desired education here already – just from reading about the things U examine during your sleuthing.
Purchase of this, my second newsletter, is temporarily delayed – as i’m contemplating making a bet that i will want to read more than 5.6 years of it. Do U expect to continue publishing longer than that?
I’ll pass. I don’t want to spend 10 years praying for a miracle. The economy is going to tank badly one of these years, and that won’t be good for the price of copper.
I see a path forward here. First, get the backing of a Russian oligarch, then get the support of crooked politicians and judges, then have the property privatized. Second, borrow millions (billions?) of dollars to get into production. Bingo! Ten years later you are in production . Can’t happen here? Research Nevada Copper. A shorter route would be to get Alaska to secede.
Guess what? Nevada Copper (NEVDF) got into production! Will they make a profit at $2.55 copper? Market doesn’t seem to think so. Current price is $0.17 per share U.S.
If you like metals I think you would be better served by placing your money into NUPMF, and you won’t have to pull A Rip Van Winkle waiting for TMQ to pay off!
Thanks, will check your tip out!
If you thought NUPMF was a buy at 5 $ your going to love it at 3$
ROFL @ Matthew
In another 10 years the only hole in the ground I’ll be concerned with is the one being dug for me.
Has anybody thought about the environmental impact of this road and the mining? Obviously Trump has no concerns about the environment, but sooner or later a Dem or a concerned Republican will set this project back to the dark ages.
No, we don’t care anything about that – we just want the GOLD.
bought TMQ at $1.98 9/2018; sold at $1.55 10/19 not ready to go back at this time
TMQ is hardly worth 20 cents/ share,there are plenty of cheap stocks producing copper now,why paying +tenfold for a mine that will take many years to be build and lots of money they dont have now,their joint partner for this mine SHTLF is a much better choise if this mine is so much promising,this teaser is a joke I think TMQ will go back down to 20 cents as it was a few years ago.
Well, one thing to consider though – it was trading around $2.50 before the corona-crash – and it has been in a steady uptrend since 2016.
Comment on the copper mine north of the Arctic Circle; I still own shares of stock in Gila Mines, which has been defunct for about 40 years. At one time those shares were worth nearly 20k. Gila Mines was a prime example of the old adage, “Mining stocks are mostly just holes in the ground surrounded by liars.”
Don’t you love how they figure out you’re going to make $312,400. What would I do if I only made $120,324.89 ?? Where do these guys come up with these crazy numbers?? They are so sincere in their pitches, I wonder how they sleep at night? Serious BS…
Sorry, just venting
Is the metals market in that much need to supply industries with copper ore. I thought copper was a dimishing usage as new technologies would replace led, copper, zinc, nickel, etc. In homes cpvc is used as supply mostly due to fire regulations add sprinklers. So I m not ready to sit on potential flush of dollars, especially from a news letter who s author loves to taut speculative pump and dumps from Canada.
Moving to a more electricity-powered economy will significantly increase copper demand to supply additional grid and distribution capacity, especially as renewables capacity increases. Additionally EVs require about 2-3 times the copper of an ICE vehicle. Also global population is growing while many are also experiencing improving standards of living, moving toward middle class lifestyles and the associated consumption patterns. Simultaneously supply is already tight while discoveries of new reserves are far below production. Most of those discoveries need > $3.50 copper to be economic. So copper prices must go up significantly to maintain, let alone increase production.
I was at the Bornite site 40 years ago The head geologist in charge of the drilling crews said they had located 9 billion dollars worth of ore in the area. A mile long runway was built in the 1950s near the village of Kobuk and Boeing even designed airplanes to fly the rich ore out. The treasure is there. No one is salting the mine.
Anyone have a clue on Leeb’s latest pitch:
people running this company started betting millions of their own personal money on a project that’s been in the works since the 1980s, it got my attention.
The man who led the firm for 15 years has bought 2.8 million shares – currently worth $5.6 million. And he bought them all on his own. They weren’t gifted to him as a stock option or bonus.
The new CEO is being paid entirely in company stock. He must be awfully upbeat about his company’s future.
The CFO just invested another $279,800, bringing her holdings to $1.74 million.
The VP has been buying shares, too. He says he feels like selling his house to buy more.
Same company we covered above…
Worth a few BUCKS? 100 SHARES? or will it TAKE FOREVER to find out?
Am I the only person who hears the name “Leeb”, immediately thinks “PEAK OIL”, and makes an obscene gesture? WHO pays $1500 annually to read this guy’s re-hashed “advice”. Is he still touting himself as DR Stephen Leeb?
Whoa! Not my cup of tea either. Thanks!
I took a MASSIVE position! With 8 you get $1.52 a SHARE!
I am LOSING already – but so goes the day!
I am a HUGE investor, LMAO!
Travis,
How do I send (or post) a couple of 5G equipment PHOTOS of JUST installed equipment?