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“Government Erasing Serial Numbers” and Eifrig’s “Fedcoin” Pitch

What's Retirement Millionaire pitching as "Blockchain" investments?

Quite a few eagle-eyed Gumshoe readers forwarded the latest ad from Dr. David Eifrig to us over the weekend — he’s pitching his Retirement Millionaire newsletter, which is an “entry level” offering from Stansberry that includes money-saving retirement tips and health tips as well as investment ideas.

It tends to not be an aggressive or exciting newsletter — this is designed for folks in or approaching retirement, not those looking for moonshot-type investments… but, of course, even those who are approaching retirement might be enticed by the idea of making a fortune thanks to a secret government plan, right?

Here’s a little taste of the ad:

“The Government Is On the Verge of Erasing The Serial Numbers On 38.1 Billion Individual Bills, Starting in 2017

“Here’s a clever way you could make a fortune thanks to this covert government plan….

“The Feds have made similar moves over the years… and each time, folks who understood what was happening and took advantage of the situation made quite a bit of money.”

He gives a few examples of those “similar moves” that made money for folks — essentially, they fall into two categories: Government changing physical money, and therefore making the old stuff either collectible or otherwise valuable (as in the case of pre-1964 quarters and dimes, which were made of silver and have become more valuable as silver prices rose; or collectibles like the no-longer-printed $1,000 or $10,000 bill); or government changing the rules for payments and opening up new lines of business for companies — as was the case for credit cards in the 1970s or online banking in the 1990s.

And yes, some of the companies who benefitted from those latter changes certainly made fortunes for shareholders — though that assumes the benefit of hindsight since we now know which companies survived and thrived (like American Express starting in the 1970s and 80s or Intuit in the 90s, for example).

So what’s the big change coming now? Here’s a bit more from the ad:

“Right now, a similar opportunity is presenting itself yet again…

“Congress just passed a new bipartisan resolution that could ultimately have a more transformative effect on American money than any of these sweeping changes the government has made in the past 100 years.

“And because of this new House Resolution, I believe that the serial numbers will essentially disappear from every U.S. bill in circulation…

“And in their place, federal officials will implement an entirely new system to both mint and manage the flow of the $14.9 trillion that changes hands in America every day.

“It’s a revolutionary change… one that will impact any American who owns, uses, or saves any of their wealth in U.S. Dollars.”

The pitch is really about blockchain, which is the key part of the new “cryptocurrencies” that have surged in investor interest over the last couple years, like bitcoin (by far the most popular and widespread of these “alt-currencies”) or ethereum (or dozens of others, though all the others are much smaller so far). Blockchain is essentially the new database structure (for lack of a better term) attached to each unit of cryptocurrency that makes it fully trackable and verifiable (though theoretically also anonymous, depending on how strictly you define “anonymity”)…. here’s what Eifrig has to say about that:

“The technology that makes all current and future digital currencies possible is called “blockchain.”

“It’s essentially a giant interactive spreadsheet… a digital database that maintains records of assets and transactions, and keeps track of who owns what.

“Each digital dollar on a blockchain carries an ever-changing serial number.

“New digits get added to it, as the money moves from one person to another.

“And that’s how a blockchain keeps records of who owns what… by tracking each and every transaction that takes place as it changes hands across a digital network.

“With a national blockchain, money would be digitally minted and backed by the ‘full faith and credit of the U.S. government’—just like today’s paper dollars.

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“Surprisingly, it won’t take much for the government to make this change…

“The government already owns the largest digital money network in the world….
Fedwire processes about as much money in a week as the entire U.S. economy generates in a year.

“All the government has to do now is to put blockchain technology on top of this network, and a cryptocurrency is instantly possible.”

I suppose that’s true, though it doesn’t address the “limited supply” part of the appeal of the cryptocurrencies (unlike the US$, which can effectively be written into existence by the Federal Reserve and by fractional-reserve banks, most cryptocurrencies have fixed limits for how many new units of currency can be created).

And there is, as Eifrig notes, a movement to create something that pundits are calling “Fedcoin” — Eifrig refers to David Andolfatto, who is a Fed official (a VP at the St. Louis Fed) and also a blogger… Andolfatto’s blog includes some interesting speculation on the potential of a “Fedcoin” that would use the blockchain but separate out monetary policy (meaning, essentially, that the Fed adopts a blockchain technology for money transfer and payment processing, saving lots of money and time, but keeps it fixed to the dollar).

That, to me, makes the fairly obvious point that mainstream financial people are taking cryptocurrencies and the blockchain seriously — we’ve known that for some time, and there are meaningful institutional transactions now using the blockchain… though the attractiveness of bitcoin or any individual cryptocurrency as a payment system remains subject, to some degree, to the concerns about the fluctuation in value of bitcoin versus the dollar. You can’t expect to make billions of real-world transactions in a currency that fluctuates substantially in short periods of time (even a few hours sometimes) like bitcoin does, but the blockchain idea is compelling enough that all the big banks and central banks and payment systems companies are actively trying to figure out how to use it (and, preferably, how to “own” some particular way of using it).

And, of course, there’s a way to profit — if only you’ll subscribe to Eifrig’s newsletter:

“… a perfectly-timed investment in the right companies in this space could be a life changing event for you and your family.

“Today, the overall blockchain market is valued at roughly $210 million…

“But at least one research firm predicts that it will grow to $20 billion within the next 10 years—100 TIMES bigger than it is today.”

I don’t know where that “overall blockchain market is valued at $210 million” bit comes from — certainly the level of interest and speculation and business exploration of bitcoin itself is far larger than that. There is currently about $20 billion worth of bitcoin in existence, and venture capital companies are still throwing money at virtual currencies — there is at least one venture-funded company that has raised over $100 million just to provide user-friendly virtual currency account/wallet services (that’s Coindesk, of which I am a customer… though there are many others in the same space as well), and there remain several bitcoin ETFs in the pipeline for SEC consideration that would probably increase interest in the virtual currencies considerably.

For what it’s worth, bitcoin and ethereum have both gotten a fair amount of investment newsletter attention over the past year or two — most recently, it was the laissez faire letter pitching bitcoin based on the upheaval that might hit next time the federal budget hits the debt ceiling, and last Summer the Palm Beach Letter was pitching ethereum as the more appealing “next bitcoin.”

So the big argument here is that the government and big companies are “gearing up” for big changes in the dollar, and in payment processing in general — perhaps to the extent that an official blockchain version of the dollar is released someday, though that’s certainly not the consensus expectation. And, more to the point, that the technology behind the blockchain is also being used and considered in most major businesses and sectors — whether it be for inventory control, or medical records, or more complex transactions (real estate, etc.).

And what’s the investment to make because of this trend? Here are clues about Eifrig’s “secret” idea:

“There’s a single stock you can buy today… that is doing more to drive this powerful new technology forward than any other company on the planet.

“If you are looking for a way to safely make extraordinary gains over the next few years, this is it. And the time to get in is now….

“… this company is already generating positive cash flow from it.

“.. nearly every bank, company, or government that is looking to use blockchain technology is already working with this firm in one way or another….

“It has deployed this blockchain platform at the world’s largest banks and financial institutions… including Bank of America, Merrill Lynch, Barclays, Credit Suisse, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, HSBC, Royal Bank of Scotland, TD Bank, UBS, and KPMG.

“It is even working with the CEO of the small startup I told you about earlier…

“The one who was invited by Fed Chairman Janet Yellen to speak at the Fed’s secret meeting—and conducted the first-ever blockchain-based transaction from inside the Fed’s headquarters.

“So we can assume that it’s probably working behind the scenes on the official launch of Fedcoin as well. That’s just an educated guess… but I’d be really surprised if it’s not true… this company just dominates this space.”

And we get a specific quote from the company, which is always a nice help to the Thinkolator:

“… one of the company’s VPs recently admitted, their business model is simple: ‘We want… access to every blockchain.'”

And apparently it’s not a little tiny speculative company… Eifrig says:

“You can invest in this company today and hold it for years to come. I expect you’ll get huge cash dividends… and great capital gains, too.

“Best of all, with this one stock, you’ll gain access to a growing royalty stream thanks to the thousands of blockchains that exist, and will continue to pop up all across the world.”

Eifrig says he “can’t share any more details of this company” … but that’s OK, because we can tell you that this is… Microsoft (MSFT)

I know, I know. All that for just for a “buy Mr. Softy” recommendation? Come on!

But yes, Microsoft has made a fairly visible commitment to working with blockchain technologies — that got ethereum speculators excited last year, because Microsoft was specifically enabling that technology in Microsoft’s Azure cloud platform.

And I expect it will be a long time before any kind of blockchain technology has a meaningful impact on Microsoft’s revenue or earnings, but you never know — perhaps they’ll pull a rabbit out of their hat and some sort of blockchain-related support will make their Azure cloud platform stand out for its support of ethereum or bitcoin or whatever, giving them some competitive advantage over Amazon and Alphabet. I have no idea. Though Amazon and Alphabet, unlike Microsoft, tend to be fairly secretive about their plans — so we shouldn’t jump to conclusions about what any of those giants are working on.

Microsoft is obviously a great company, and it has been a fantastic investment over the past 30 years — though whether it was a real market-beater depends, of course, on when you bought it (buying it in 2000 would have led to disappointment, and it pretty much tracked with the S&P 500 for about ten years or so, but over the last 18 months it has gone through a bit of a transformation under new CEO Satya Nadella and has again become a “hot” stock.

It is a pretty safe investment, since it’s clearly a “blue chip” in enterprise and cloud computing, with the powerful Azure cloud platform joining Microsoft’s Windows operating system and Office desktop suite and, increasingly, Xbox video game platform as key drivers. It’s a bit expensive in my book, at 20X 2018 earnings forecasts (that’s more expensive than Alphabet, despite Alphabet’s stronger growth rate), but it’s a good company and it pays a solid and growing dividend of about 2.5%.

I won’t try to talk you out of Microsoft shares, but if we’re picking among the rarefied universe of $400-$500+ billion companies I see more to like in Alphabet (GOOG) and Amazon (AMZN) at current prices because of their growth potential, both of which I own… and though I’m a little wary of the valuation now for Apple (AAPL) since its most recent surge I also still own that one, and I don’t think I’ve ever owned Microsoft shares directly (though, of course, since it’s been one of the biggest companies in the world for decades I’ve always had some exposure to it through index funds).

So that’s what I think. I agree that virtual currencies have some real potential, and it is true that Microsoft is showing substantial interest in incorporating blockchain technology… I don’t know if I’d go so far as to say that Microsoft will soar because of bitcoin or blockchain or “Fedcoin”… but it won’t collapse because bitcoin’s value drops by 50%, so it is certainly less risky than the various virtual currencies themselves, and there’s plenty of reason to consider a Microsoft investment for non-blockchain reasons.

It’s your money though, so what do you think? Interested in blockchain, or in Fedcoin’s potential, or bitcoin or ethereum or whatever? Have any other speculations you’d like to make on companies that might benefit from the rise of alternative currencies? Let us know with a comment below.

P.S. Eifrig also hinted at four other blockchain-related investment ideas in his ad — if there’s interest, I’ll dig in and see if the Thinkolator can ID those for you as well… they’re pitched as “picks and shovels” and “royalty” streams on blockchain investments by the major banks.

Disclosure: I have small positions in both bitcoin and ethereum, and am invested in Alphabet, Amazon and Google shares. I do not have direct investment in any other stock (or alt-currency) noted above, and won’t trade in any covered investment for at least three days per Stock Gumshoe’s trading rules.

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Gail V. Phillips
March 6, 2017 4:46 pm

I was rather intrigued by this come-on as well, and did a little research of my own. You can’t invest directly in the start-ups on the forefront of blockchain technology (R3, Axoni, Digital Asset), but Efrig’s article also references other companies, besides Microsoft, who have partnered with R3 on this project, including IBM and Intel and banks such as Wells Fargo and JP Morgan. Others involved include Deloitte. Although not a techie, I somehow believe blockchain will be the next gold standard.

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curiousjoe
curiousjoe
March 6, 2017 11:49 pm

I also immediately thought of IBM as another player in the blockchain space. While bitcoin is currently much in the news because its value has surpassed that of an ounce of gold, MSFT, IBM, GOOG, etc. are looking at other applications of blockchain besides cryptocurrencies.

Read somewhere that the current interest in bitcoin comes mainly from China whose citizens see it as a means to get their money out of the country. The Chinese government has become aware and is clamping down. It remains to be seen whether governments will step in and adopt some form of global cryptocurrency (“cryptodollar”), or clamp down, or both.

As for other applications of blockchain, the two I have come across are supply chain management and real estate transactions. (See e.g. http://www.supplychaindive.com/news/blockchain-Maersk-IBM-digitization-challenge-Wal-Mart-real-time/437412).

If a company is already offering a cloud service, all manner of “aases” 🙂 are possible, with blockchain being one more. E.g. MSFT offers EBaaS (Ethereum Blockchain as a Service) on Azure.

Another possible application is to weed out the many fake knockoffs of the genuine articles that plague BABA and possibly also AMZN. (IBM’s supply chain blockchain probably takes care of this). Lastly, there may be an application of blockchain to IoT.

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YoBrent
YoBrent
March 7, 2017 1:46 pm
Reply to  curiousjoe

Exactly. Cryptocurrency is leading the charge (news) in the blockchain industry/discussion, but there are many more applications that make investing in the technology more appealing (for me) than just currency . I’m just not sure how to do it efficiently.

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Terry Roshau
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Terry Roshau
May 6, 2017 11:53 am

Join the discussion
I am a little more interested in investing in companies that are involved in helping other companies implement blockchain. I have only found two ‘less than blue chip with more growth potential’ so far that seem to be moving: BTLLF and BITCF. Both are small, of course. BTLLF seems to be a steadier climber and longer history, BITCF an up an down new scorcher.
If any one know of others, I’d sure like to diversify a little and would love to look at them.

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Older but Wiser
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Older but Wiser
March 6, 2017 4:49 pm

Call me old school, but I prefer to stay with my Gold Coin currency.

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saline09
saline09
March 11, 2017 5:17 pm

Do you think Govt’s will have a choice? Blockbuster didn’t want to give up control of the rental market. 🙂 I understand the money supply, media,energy, and military are all systems of control and it looks like the money supply, energy, and mainstream media is getting disrupted over time. Where is Tony Stark to disrupt the military ? 🙂

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Mark
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Mark
November 3, 2017 7:46 pm

The Government of most countries does not control its money supply. The same as United States relying on the Federal Reserve to handle and control the monetary system. A Central Bank in every Country accept North Korea/ Iran.

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Ron
Ron
March 6, 2017 5:11 pm

Yes Please tell us more Travis

Tom
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Tom
March 6, 2017 5:17 pm

This argument seems to be based upon the fiction that somehow the money supply is linked to the number of bills printed and in circulation. Really? The funds from my paycheck are deposited in my checking account and from there transferred to assorted people whom I owe. When I visit a store or a restaurant I pay with my debit card. Very little currency ever changes hands. Any accountant can tell you that money is created with an entry in a banks books not by a printing press in Washington or anywhere else. I can understand why the Treasury department would like to create a more secure currency but I’m not at the moment convinced that moving to a crytocurrency would make printed bills, which we would presumably still need at least a few of, any more secure. I’m not a buyer.

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YoBrent
YoBrent
March 7, 2017 1:38 pm
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That’s true, but there are a lot of vendors who get a “cut” along the status quo digital way. One of the biggest arguments for the blockchain cryptocurrency is to cut out the middle men. This is why IMHO (and I believe Travis also illuded to) Gov, Big Banks, and Corps are getting involved. There is too much money to be lost if this technology gets away from them. As for security, think of how PayPal helped eBay buyers feel more comfortable… an escro of sorts. But, they take a huge cut. I first saw Bitcoin on backpage (the “underground” Craigslist) because a big problem is who is going to trust who first… buyer or seller? Blockchain has verification and irrefutable transaction history/proof.

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saline09
saline09
March 11, 2017 5:22 pm
Reply to  Tom

What YoBrent says + Fractional Reserve Banking + QE infinite + negative interest rates….all hidden taxes and wealth transfers. Central banks only exist to fund Gov’t expansion and unfortunately we have removed any competing currency i.e. gold/silver from the minds of the consumer (through paper ETF manipulation) so taking out the banks as middle man and creating a competitive currency environment will provide more checks and balances and in theory give the individual more liberty.

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Mark
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Mark
November 3, 2017 7:32 pm
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Kinda wild cause I have never had credit or debt. Knowing full well they’d planned for decades to drop cash. I just never involved myself in that way. Never had a checking account either so pay with money orders. This story will change a lot of minds when the offer the Mark of the Beast to do business. Micro chip in your hand to be considered authorized to eat or cloth yourself. Even get your teeth cleaned or a doctors appointment.

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SageNot
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SageNot
March 6, 2017 5:32 pm

Really silly of Doc, Mr. Softie has been in his portfolio for years now! Now that the moron Balmer has retired, maybe MSFT can renew it’s growth again!

kblyons46
kblyons46
March 6, 2017 5:38 pm

I’m with some of the folks who aren’t sure such things have a big future. But if you’re looking for a fairly pure play on blockchain technology, look at BTLLF. I’m not sure why it’s up so much in the last two days, but my account, where I hold a small position, is happy with it. And it might well be one of the “other opportunities” mentioned here.

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YoBrent
YoBrent
March 7, 2017 1:25 pm
Reply to  kblyons46

Thanks for the tip, and that’s just one company. Do you know of a blockchain ETF that is not cryptocurrency specific like the awaited Winklevoss COIN?

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Ernest Ayo
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Ernest Ayo
March 6, 2017 6:26 pm

There are 184 cryptocurrencies on the market. In the end, only 4 may survive. Even then, like ALL assets, they will only be worth what a willing buyer will pay.

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archives2001
archives2001
March 19, 2017 7:33 am
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184 cryptos? Nope, around 400 and counting:
https://www.worldcoinindex.com/

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David Cregar
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March 6, 2017 7:53 pm

The Winklevoss twins whom thought up Facebook and enlisted Zuckerberg. They were all classmates at Harvard. After parting ways Zuckerberg launched Facebook and the Winklevoss twins sued, settling for 65 million dollars.
The Winklevoss twins are awaiting this weeks SEC decision on a bitcoin ETF symbol COIN. The eight year old currency will be as easily obtainable as the SP500 if approved.

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saline09
saline09
March 11, 2017 5:28 pm

I suspect they will never approve anETF for bitcoin but not because they do not want to but because the ETF would not be able to control the bitcoin price relative to other fiat currency as they do with the silver market ETFs. I.e. you can manipulate the silver spot price by dumping an absurd amount of fictitious paper ETF’s on the market which supposedly represent the physical somewhere – harder to do with bitcoin because you can’t just make up the bitcoin supply side.

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YoBrent
YoBrent
March 7, 2017 1:19 pm
Reply to  David Cregar

Good point. Schwab told me the 11th, (referencing Travis’ direct comment to yours) but that’s a Saturday. Do we know of any general blockchain (not necessarily cryptocurrency specific) ETFs on the horizon?

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Carbon Bigfoot
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March 6, 2017 8:02 pm

Years ago I had invested in a “bartering company” whose name escapes me due to the time frame. Essentially it provided companies and individuals to exchange or barter goods and services through an internet platform. Memory suggests that a barter currency would be issued against the “value” of the exchange as a basis for negotiation and settlement. Differences were settled in the platform’s currency and retired to the appropriate client’s account. Perhaps it was the timing or the interjection of government oversight trying to secure their pound of flesh, I bailed after a year of stock stasis, but regretted my action. Never did hear of any success or failure. This crypto stuff has government involvement which raises red flags in my tent, or I’m too old, or to committed to hard assets.

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edski
Irregular
March 7, 2017 12:39 pm
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Here’s to being, “too old” Bigfoot! It’s them “new kids” time, and maybe we need to stay with our own currencies for transactions from now on, in our own, bartering way.

saline09
saline09
March 11, 2017 5:32 pm
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You should own “a little” just to get used to the mechanics of it. Is it a form of currency – YES – is it a good store of value – NO. Will it go up up up in price – YES – well at least bitcoin and at least for awhile. The US in itself is an economy, Russia is an economy, the Internet is an economy – each has it’s own currency and the internet’s currency is Bitcoin (although it accepts everything else).

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xnlover
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xnlover
April 26, 2017 6:43 pm
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The red flags went up for me when Eifrig indicated that the Fedcoin blockchain system would identify the parties involved in every transaction, confirming who owns what. This sounds to me like a system that provides the means by which nothing is done apart from the government knowing what is happening, ensuring at the very least that proper taxes are assessed and collected and even providing the system for such assessment and collection through the blockchain itself. My guess is that, were we to go to a completely cashless, digital-only financial transfer system, laws would be written to make it a criminal act to carry on financial transactions outside of the “official” system; so that a digital black market would develop that had its own cryptocurrency along with safeguards to keep it from being hacked by “revenooers,” who wouldn’t be going into backwoods areas looking for illegal stills producing moonshine but would be sitting in their offices – or even at home – getting a cut from all the illegal financial trading going on that they discovered and turned into the feds. Sounds like “Big Brother”! 🙁

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thinairmony
March 6, 2017 9:37 pm

What a dispensational of time to be living !

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wrkdiver
wrkdiver
March 6, 2017 11:49 pm

I subscribe to Retirement Millionaire (and way too many others) and you’re right.
the latest issue is all over Microsoft with a “buy” reccomendation.

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David
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David
March 7, 2017 3:00 am

Another fiat currency? If things go south this can all disappear. At least a dollar you can hold.

archives2001
archives2001
March 19, 2017 7:44 am
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David, the Dollar is of course fiat and sooner or later, ALL fiat currencies, (cryptos too), go to ZERO…ALL! Recall Wiemar Germany when u could paper the wall with dollars. Zimbabwe, Argentina, etc, etc.

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tromans
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March 7, 2017 3:48 am

And no doubt it will be linked to the micro-chip that we will all be forced to have. All the ingredients are coming together to fulfill Bible prophecy. Take care, there is much more to this than mere speculation on money-making!

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De Simon
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March 7, 2017 12:37 pm

I’m pretty sceptical whether any crypto currency will become the international standard vis a vis the Bank of International settlements. I can see it being used for the domestic economy /a.k.a. plebs but on the international level those who control thew monetary system have everything invested via gold.

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glbcpa1
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March 7, 2017 12:50 pm

The world, USA, etc, already has a digital currency. As one poster indicated, his paycheck is electronically deposited into his bank account. He electronically pays, various bills and accounts electronically. One can access his portfolio or bank account and digitally transfer funds to and fro. U S treasury will simply stop printing tangible bills, and all funds will be indicated in all accounts as an intangible digits. It is all already fiat currency, as nothing is backing US Dollars now, except the US Gov’t, which already undeclared fiscally bankrupt. With the new coming cashless society, Federal Gov’t can trace (audit) all transactions. Under ground cash, non taxed economy, will evaporate, and put the drug dealers out of action also. . It is only the matter of the US Gov’t propagandizing, programming, and conditioning, the U S citizens to acclimate and accept the new standards and not revolt. Most citizens are now willing to give up freedoms for so-called Gov’t Security in most regards anyway. The tangible will just become intangible, and one can only hope to retain a firewall around all of the financial transactions hopefully through encrypted, transaction process. The NWO is now here. Perhaps Apple can become the most secured method of payment, transfers, etc.; method and my Apple (Stock) become the method and the Bank and continue to rise accordingly. Selah.

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De Simon
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March 7, 2017 2:48 pm
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True glbepar but international settlements via the Bank of International Settlements are made via gold. You are talking about payments made on the plebian level. Think China. They had or perhaps still have 2 currencies; a domestic one and an international one. With the unsustainable debt levels the west has this is the only way to go other than defaulting.

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glbcpa1
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March 7, 2017 3:46 pm
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Most Americans will not be trading, paying, collecting in Yuan, Yen, Rubble etc. To me the main-impact is one; going cashless in US will-render huge changes. How will USA pay $20 plus trillion sovereign debt, off-balance sheet debt, of ????, and deficit increasing daily. You are correct, it will be by defaulting. No one in NY or DC can apprise you of any other way to pay it off. Further consider that Greece, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, UK, etc are imploding from debt and radical islam. Now if you derclare I am islamphobic, you would be correct. Deutsche Bank just now further deluding their value, with issuing additional shares. Travis’s reading of the world being about same regard, in 2017 as it was in 1979 will be proven it’s 180 degrees different. In 1979 Shaw of Iran was driven out. Now consider in 2017 Iran is just months from being nuclear with weapons and delivery thereof. North Korea strutting about like a bantam rooster, threatening to spew nuclear weapons. China can not be excluded from being a huge South China Sea Nuclear Occurrence either. Travis spending too much time in DC, NY, NE, and penthouse Fla vacations, probably looking through small prisms and not see reality. Best not to settle down too comfortable in those controlled, economically esteemed environments, in these times. I am more in the club with Richard Dent , Rickards, Larry Edelson (may He RIP), and other doom and gloomers. Wish to GOD I saw it differently.

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archives2001
archives2001
March 19, 2017 7:55 am
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Makes perfect sense De Simon!

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archives2001
archives2001
March 19, 2017 7:52 am
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Sorry glbepar but Apple is heavily invested in blockchain technology.

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amdeist
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amdeist
March 11, 2017 4:01 pm

If they do go to any kind of electronic currency, that will start the downfall of our financial system. We can’t even protect our most critical secrets, personal information, corporate information, etc. What makes anyone think that this won’t be a field day for techies. I can’t wait for the self-driving cars that are going to be hacked and money extorted from drivers to keep them from crashing. The only thing technology has done is made it faster and easier for criminals.

archives2001
archives2001
March 19, 2017 8:06 am
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amdeist, ‘the downfall of our financial system’ began when JP Morgan and gang set up the private Fed Reserve in 1913. It was kicked into hi gear in 1971 when ‘I am not a crook’ Nixon took us off the gold standard completely and set up the fiat ‘highway to heaven and forthcoming hell’.

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Stewart Grainger
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Stewart Grainger
May 24, 2017 6:21 pm

Traitors in collusion against our United States Constitution that are hiding within our Constitutional Republic’s governmental structure… think that they are going to enslave us. That’s not going to be an easy task !

These are humans who have damaged and destroyed everything they come in contact with, and have no business managing a lemonade stand let alone other American’s affairs.

Keep this in mind as hope. There are approximately 10 million Veterans. Those approximate 10 million are either retired, or have served their obligation and have been discharged. That doesn’t include the current active duty Veterans (60% of which.. are on the DHS watch list).
There are 5 million NRA Members and growing. There are approximately 300 million firearms (rifles of some form or other) and sidearms (pistols and revolvers) in the hands of private citizens. If the Narcissistic Traitors that are employed within our government’s structure… think that Americans are going to willingly give up their cash or weapons then they are living in their own illusion.

“Those that can not (note: you could supplant “can not” with “will not”, or “do not”) remember their history…are condemned to repeat it !” George Santayana Circa 1894.

People ! Have we not had wars within our country in the past !?

We have gone over the precipice of the proverbial “slippery slope” and are now in free fall to the bottom of an unknown pit.
How we as Americans land… in that pit, is going to be dependent on the resolve of Patriotic Americans to prevent themselves from becoming enslaved to a few Narcissistic Control Freak Humans Beings with a maniacal bent on having total control over other human beings.
I suspect that Americans will not go quietly in giving up their money (money is property) or weapons. There appears to be one a hell of a blood bath coming similar to our last Civil War (approx. 700,000 Americans killed). This time let’s hope it’s just the Narcissistic Control Freak Traitors whose existence is ended instead of innocent Americans.

Note: Posted under a pseudonym and fictitious email

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Robert C Farr
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Robert C Farr
May 3, 2023 12:52 pm

Travis – Good job of assessing the current situation on Fedcoin. I am still looking for a “safe haven” .
Any ideas? I suspect some will surface when we get closer to ground 0.

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