Kohl’s “Endless Clean Energy” pitch about “One tiny company that holds the key to a $1.2 trillion energy revolution”

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, August 7, 2019

The following article was originally published on November 26, 2018… we are re-posting it because of a slew of new questions about this ad, which is again circulating. The ad is unchanged from November, it appears, and the following article is also unchanged (the financial expectations are now a little worse than they were late last year, but the stock is now up a bit).

From 11/26/18:

The ad that caught my eye this morning was for Keith Kohl’s Energy Investor… who wouldn’t want to daydream about 1,587% gains while they’re planning their holiday shopping? Maybe we can get a Rolex for each kid! Everyone gets a new car! Woohoo!

Ahem. Sorry. Got a little ahead of myself. What is it that Kohl is pitching? Here’s a taste fo the ad:

“Harnessing Hydrogen for 1,587% Gains

“The biggest opportunity in this market is simple.

“The top company that mass-produces the engines that run on hydrogen stands to make an absolute fortune.

“And this tiny manufacturing company has already partnered with the U.S. military and several top Fortune 500 companies to achieve that end.

“It’s working with Royal Caribbean Cruises on futuristic new cruise ship engines.

“The U.S. Navy has commissioned the company to develop 13 new propulsion systems for its drones.

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“The U.S. Army recently ordered $1 million worth of mobile power packs from it.

“It’s signed a $9 million contract with Siemens to develop a hydrogen-powered train.”

OK, so that’s a pretty nice plateful of clues… which I certainly appreciate, coming back to work after some holiday lollygagging.

I do like to be a bit greedy when it comes to clues, though… anything else I can feed to the Thinkolator to make sure we get the right answer?

He talks a lot about the fact that even oil companies have invested in this “new” energy source, something they’ve been reluctant to do in the past with battery and solar and etc….

“Exxon calls this fuel source ‘a game changer.’

“And Shell joined an international partnership that’s investing $10.7 billion into this new energy.

“Big Oil has never invested this kind of money in green technology before.

“It’s no longer a question of ‘will hydrogen catch on?’ but, rather, ‘how massive will it be?'”

That’s not true, of course — there’s still essentially no hydrogen fueling infrastructure in the United States outside of California, and there have been fuel cell cars and other products available for a decade or more without generating much consumer interest. The first commercial-scale consumer hydrogen fuel cell car came out five years ago, and they’re still available in just small test locations, mostly in California, which has the goal of getting to 200 hydrogen fueling stations by 2025… which sounds impressive, but by way of comparison there are 8,000 gas stations in California, and about 200 Tesla Supercharger locations either built or planned (not counting “destination” and home chargers… “at home” hydrogen fueling seems unlikely).

Still, hydrogen fuel cell cars have a huge amount of appeal — potentially as convenient to fuel as gasoline cars, no emissions, possible to create hydrogen out of water if you have enough electricity available (which can be solar in some places), and the modern fuel cell cars effectively act the same as battery electric cars, since the fuel cell just creates electricity to run the electric motors (so they have the potential of being simpler and lower-maintenance than gasoline cars).

Just be careful about assuming inevitability… someone’s got to build those refueling stations, and there aren’t many Elon Musk’s out there who are willing or able to do it as a massive investment to spur hydrogen fuel cell adoption. Definitely possible, but it will take a lot of money from the government to push things forward with any speed. It really tool Musk’s promotional whiz-bangery and the appeal to luxury-loving wealthy liberal Calfornians to get Tesla over the hump to be taken somewhat seriously, following lots of electric car failures, so what will it take to get hydrogen fuel cells up to speed? Will battery recharging advance fast enough to make fuel cells unappealing over the next 5-10 years? I don’t know.

And then, finally, another hint dropped about the specific company he likes:

“With a market cap of slightly under a billion dollars, it wouldn’t take much for its stock to jump five times, 10 times, or even 15 times its current price!”

He throws out some past examples of “hydrogen stocks” that have spiked and given investors good quick gains — Fuel Cell Energy and Plug Power in 2000, and AFC Energy in 2011… so are those kinds of gains on offer again here?

Well, 1,587% gains would certainly require a huge stretch of the imagination… but this stock has spiked in the past on fuel cell “story” excitement, with bumps that rivaled those Plug Power and Fuel Cell Energy price spikes — including a run from about 50 cents to over $4 a share about five years ago. This is, sez the Thinkolator, Ballard Power Systems (BLDP).

And no, it’s not “slightly under a billion dollars” anymore — though it was a couple months ago. It’s got a market cap of about $500 million now.

Ballard Power has been around for about 25 years, and has never gotten onto a sustained trend of rising revenues for more than a couple years (though 2017 was their best year for sales, just barely eclipsing 2003), and they’ve never been profitable… though last year they got pretty close to break-even. Their last quarter was mildly disappointing in comparison to analyst expectations, and included “below consensus guidance,” so the stock has performed poorly during the recent market weakness — it peaked at about $4.50 back in September but dropped with all the other small “growth” stocks (they’re not growing, but they’re not profitable either… and the only reason to buy the stock is if you imagine it will grow, and we have to call it something), then dropped again on the weak earnings report, and here we sit below $3 a share.

Where’s it going? I don’t know. They do have all those teased agreements and projects in place the navy contracts for drones and the experimental cruise ship systems (with ABB) for Royal Caribbean, and an experimental commuter train system with Siemens, and maybe some of these will become commercial-scale projects eventually… but there doesn’t appear to be any urgency. Analysts expect them to finish 2018 with revenue about 25% below 2017’s results, and to grow after that but still only have $100 million in revenue in 2019 and $137 million in 2020, when they anticipate Ballard reporting a profit for the first time (1 cent per share… but you gotta start somewhere).

They are not in any financial danger, they did just get a bit equity investment from Weichai Power of about $164 million, selling them 19.9% of the company at $3.54 per share — and another of their Chinese investors ponied up $20 million to keep its 9.9% ownership share, so they have plenty of cash.

You can get a basic idea of the current operating metrics from their third quarter presentation — but, as you can imagine from the stock price’s move over the past couple months, the numbers are not good. This is a story stock, not an investment based on established financial performance, so you’d have to believe in the story and have some taste for risk to want to own it… and unless there’s some huge “spike” coming from another mania over hydrogen fuel cells, which is possible but not particularly predictable, then you’ll probably have to be quite patient as you wait to see whether Ballard’s longstanding technology story in clean energy can become a viable business.

So… you’ll have to decide where you come down: Yay, hydrogen fuel cells will be huge? Nay, I’ll wait for them to get some orders? Watch and wait? I’m perhaps a bit extra-cynical after seeing a few previous generations of fuel cell stocks crash and burn, so I’ll try to check in on Ballard every now and then but I’m not willing to risk my money on them today.

Your mileage may vary, of course, so make your call — and please do share your thoughts with us, since that makes us all a wee bit wiser… just use the happy little comment box below, thanks for reading!


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Interesting Article in the Dallas Morning New on Sunday 11/26 18 concerning their production and future intentions with respect to Hydrogen automobiles….

ben gunnarson
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Dallas Sunday Addition 11/26/18 article is about Toyota Motor and their progress with Hydrogen…

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Hydrogen is a cottage industry pushed by our local Allentown Company– Air Products and Ballard. Hydrogen is dangerous from both the lower & higher explosive limits has containment issues and is not competitive in this century or next. I don’t care what they think anyone thinks H2 will NEVER be cost effective. Read a chemistry book and/or Perry’s Chemical Engineering Handbook before you enter this world of make believe. Bloom Energy is a solid fuel cell utilizing NG or propane. It is a public stock and it is selling at below its offering of $18. I bought another 100 shares… Read more »

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Mike
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Hydrogen has as good of a chance as being cost effective as a car with a buttload of expensive batteries. In my opinion of coarse

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Mike “show me the money”. I’m all about scientific thermodynamic facts and money— a Professional Chemical Engineer with 45+ years in the energy business. Your hunch doesn’t cu it!!

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John
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You might be wrong: store hydrogen as ammonia for bulk transport and storage, only need iron + heat to extract the H2 = old proven technologies. Good fuel cells could be very efficient. Waste products all non-polluting.

bevan sands
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MAYBE Warren Buffet could boost the company he has lots of trains to run But has he got the guts.
been a marine engineer i know how many tonnes of fuel the cruise ships burn an hour.

Paul
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Ballard? They’re recycling moldy oldies, and ignoring promising companies like Enphase.

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Even if Hydrogen is the best fuel you can buy to it’s best use will be in a power plant.. The electric vehicle with the new batteries can not be beat. They have won the competition. There talking 500 mile range with a Three minute charge how can you beat that. The cost of Hydrogen infrastructure is cost prohibitive.

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Hydrogen Engine Center, Inc. (HYEG) was my favorite way to bet on hydrogen’s future, but then the company was taken over by a mysterious Spaniard, Pedro Blach, who has taken over as President, CEO and COB.

Tony Polony
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JayBee, the mysterious Spaniard Pedro Blach (Pedro Juan Blach Servera) CEO of Tina Energy Systems SL, and belongs to Monte de Acedos SL whose principal Shareholder is Alfonso Javier Martínez Bordiú Blasso from Sesuardasi SL. The Martínez Bordiú are descendants of the late General Franco. Alfonso Javier is one of the grandsons of General Franco

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If the technology for harvesting hydrogen power exists, it will replace everything and the stock will go up 1,500,000%. On the other hand, maybe your children’s children will see this happen. What happens to the massive energy industry along the way?

John
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Conceptually, hydrogen is the BEST fuel for mobile applications. We see this in the trend since fire was first used: wood -> coal ->gasoline/diesel -> H2. We’ve been getting rid of the carbon. The great believers in batteries need to start looking critically at supplies of essential materials. Maybe we’ll crack that one but we’re already rubbing up against the limits for lead in standard car batteries, will do so soon for lithium, maybe we go to sodium or magnesium or more exotic elements/compounds but natural reserves of all of these will become issues.

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I wonder if hydrogen fuel cells degrade over time like batteries do ? I don’t see the cost savings of an electric vehicle when the batteries will be useless in several years. I am a miser and like to keep a cars for a very long time. I guess leasing an electric would not be too bad depending on the price of gasoline.

John
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Plant growth remains CO2-limited at the current “anthropogenically elevated” concentrations in the atmosphere. Given current attitudes, it is ironic that life on Earth will one day thank the fossil fuel industry for enabling its continued existence, as much of the CO2 once present in the atmosphere has been transformed by living organisms into rock. Absent some serious acidification, such reserves of CO2 will remain inaccessible to plants and thus most other forms of life. Do a better job of removing pollutants expelled during the combustion of fossil fuels and their continued use would likely be beneficial in the balance. CO2,… Read more »

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I’m a new subscriber and appreciate you calling out all these promises and don’t deliver as said because I have brought plenty of them over the years and not panning out!
I have learned to do your own homework and make your own dession on an investment! I wish they would be more accountable for this! Thanks for listening.

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check out HKG 958 and 1257 https://chinadeep.info/top-10-renewable-stocks-by-market-cap/

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Fool cells! H2 is currently extracted from natural gas.

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John
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“Currently” being the operative word. See, e.g.: https://phys.org/news/2014-08-air-ammoniaone-world-important-chemicals.html

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Does anyone have some more information about the new -by an US army lab
developed- technology to produce hydrogen by using special mixes of alluminium powders? I think that could be a real revolution in generating hydrogen and also a big step to the more common use of H2 fuel cells if it really works.
Do there exist any developing partners or -maybe- licenses apart from the US
army for this new technology?

Jerry Perlin
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Keith Kohl claims he will ‘sell you’ the ticker symbol of a company that is into simple Nano galvanic hydrogen production using aluminum and water. H2 refueling stations are a lost cause…but a small amount of this aluminum stuff could power fuel cells and truly be fantastic automotive fuel. I’ve been searching for info and so far have found that the military scientists discovered this process and it is in a very rudimentary stage of development and they are seeking industrial R & D…but there seems to be a long way to go before it’s ready. So, I’m wondering who… Read more »

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Jerry Perlin
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I just checked Keith Kohl’s publisher Angel after subscribing to his service. Ballard is indeed the company that he indicated is developing this ‘simple’ hydrogen generating technology, This is questionable information. I haven’t heard a word about Ballard being involved in this.
I just got a refund on my subscription to his energy reports.

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Li Teoh
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If you watch Jeremy Refkin’s Third Industrial Revolution talks, he is certainly predicting that this is the way to go and will take 40 years with saving the planet impetus.

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Thank you again for your realistic comments.
Anyway I believe strongly that the real long term energy solution will be something based on hydrogen kind of technology. The key issue to get real high profile investors and technology companies to push for more ambitious objectives.

Anne
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I worked on hydrogen fuel cells when Iwas 21. I am now 73. the research we were doing was for British Railways and intended for trains. It was deemed too dangerous. Of course petrol isn’t! All todays energy companies have to do is update our research.
yet another case of the UK giving away research. The hovercraft was another example.
I’ll leave it there.

lolly2
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Travis I am being inundated with teasers about some little American pot stocks that are going to skyrocket after Sept 1, tease comes out of the Casey stables. Any ideas?