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What’s The Wealth Advisory’s “Next Chipotle”

We’ve had a number of questions about this pitch for “The Next Chipotle” from Briton Ryle, so we’re re-posting this solution from December — the stock they’re teasing, ZOES, is still the same, though it reported a great first quarter in early June and the shares popped up on the news (and came back down a bit more recently when the CFO resigned). It’s up about 30% since the promo was first distributed (or we first saw it, at least) late last year.

What follows has not been edited or revised since it first ran on December 23, 2014. Enjoy!

A quickie here for you as we batten down the hatches for the holiday break and, as the Little Gumshoes would put it, wish you a Happy Christmas Eve Eve. Perhaps this reveal of a “top secret” idea will fill your belly with good tidings…

The pitch comes in from Wealth Daily, in a free article that hints at Briton Ryle’s current recommendation from the pages of The Wealth Advisory. That newsletter might sound familiar, if only because one of our most-requested teaser solutions of late has been their pitch for what they call “Internet Royalties” that let you “get paid to watch Netflix” … that was a ridiculous tease, but underneath it we found a perfectly reasonable stock (and one that many of us already owned).

So what are they touting this time around? Ryle starts off with the story of Chipotle…

“Chipotle has tripled the number of its stores to 1,600 stores. It did $4 billion in sales over the last year.

“Chipotle shares are up 1,371%, making it one of the very best investments you could have made over the last eight years. Now, if we can just find another restaurant concept that can do as well as Chipotle…

“Chipotle’s formula is pretty basic: The company serves easily accessible food using quality ingredients at a reasonable price. It has hit on an ideal formula.

“So I was pretty excited when I found another small, up-and-coming restaurant chain with a similar formula and similar potential…”

Yes, Chipotle is another of my “sold it way too soon” stocks. I’m trying not to be bitter. But what’s his new “up and coming” chain that he’s recommending?

Here are a few hints dropped by Ryle:

“Stifel analyst Paul Westra says this ‘next Chipotle’ restaurant is ‘one of the best­-in­-history up­-and­-coming restaurant concepts… [its] early-stage momentum and store­-level profitability is even outpacing Chipotle’s… early­-stage results…’

“This company plans to have ~1,500 locations open by 2022 — roughly the same number of stores as Chipotle. If it can simply maintain the average of $1.5 million in annual sales per location, that would mean $2.4 billion in annual sales.

“So far, this company has done $160 million in trailing 12­-month revenue. For the full-year 2014, it should do $170 million, and analysts expect $218 million for 2015.

“This company currently trades with a price-to-sales (P/S) ratio of 3.5 (that’s $160 million in sales and a $560 million market cap).”

And he throws out the enticement of the potential growth — saying that it it trades at an average price/sales ratio for the sector and gets to their 1,500 restaurants goal, the stock could have a $6.75 billion market cap in seven years (which would be 1,110% growth).

So that sound pretty good, right? What’s the stock?

We fed all that into the hungry, hungry Thinkolator, and our answer came out quicker than you can bring me some figgy pudding: This is one of the relatively quiet IPOs of 2014, Zöe’s Kitchen (ZOES).

Zöe’s Kitchen is a fairly well-established small chain, they’ve been around for 20 years but just went public this year to raise money to expand and pay off their longtime private equity backers… and they did a secondary offering just last month as well (not to raise money, but to let those backers sell more shares), which has helped to keep a lid on the stock.

They have a concept that many Americans would probably call “Greek Nouveau”, but they sell the mediterranean lifestyle and the food supply chain in a similar way to Chipotle — all about fresh ingredients, fairly simple and limited menu, fresh and organic sourcing, no microwaves, etc. They have about 130 restaurants, essentially all of them company owned (they still have a few franchised locations outstanding, and a couple franchise agreements/regions from their previous attempt at growth through franchising, but they’ve been buying back those franchisees and attempting to close down the franchised locations).

And they’re adding restaurants at a feverish pace, 30 new restaurants this year, almost as many last year, and the anticipation that this growth will continue or accelerate, which is what fuels their revenue growth — they have been posting decent “comparable store sales” growth of 5-6% in recent quarters, but the real revenue growth comes from adding brand new locations into the mix… that’s how they’re getting revenue growth in the 50% neighborhood, which generally makes investors sit up and take notice.

They are not profitable, though the stores do look scaleable in part because their operating cash flow is positive (which is kind of a shorthand way of saying that the restaurants themselves look like they are not losing money — revenues cover their rent and their food and labor costs, losses are mostly due to depreciation and corporate overhead and expansion costs). That means that if this is really a popular concept that does catch on and create a legion of fans (like Chipotle did) and can grow without diluting the appeal or otherwise stumbling (unlike Potbelly Deli or Cosi, for example), then there’s clearly some potential.

The stock market is littered with the remains of failed restaurant concepts, so there’s absolutely no guarantee — Zöe’s is very much marketing itself to the Chipotle/Whole Foods shopper, and their story is based on fresh cooking and labeling and health and transparency, which I can see would appeal to a large segment of the population. Maybe not as much to the college students who line up at Chipotle for gigantic burritos, but certainly there’s a market.

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But I also really liked Cosi (as a diner, not an investor) when it was expanding like crazy in Washington, DC when I lived there a decade ago, and they had a differentiated flatbread product with fresh ingredients, and lines out the door, and that stock boomed to $40 after their IPO but is now at $1.60. There are a lot of things that can trip up a restaurant stock that’s trying to expand and create a national brand.

The financials are largely uninspiring, other than the growth rate, which is what you would expect from a rapid grower that recently went public — but they are not buying locations, they’re renting and presumably getting some buildout assistance from their landlords, so the expansion cost does not necessarily have to be overwhelming. They will be burning cash because of store openings, but with their IPO cash on hand and with the positive operating cash flow from their existing stores, they do have the capacity to do that for at least a little while.

Really, if you like the concept and think it will grow well, then they’re in better shape than a lot of small chains — the restaurants themselves look like they are, on average, very financially reasonable businesses (not Chipotle-fantastic, but reasonable, better than Potbelly or Noodles & Co or some other relatively new chains), and the fact that this base is performing well and has been for quite a while — with growing sales and positive cash flow — gives some hope for rosy thinking about what happens when that store base gets far larger.

So growth is really the whole story with ZOES. We know from Chipotle and Panera and other examples that popular and expanding fast-casual restaurant chains can be extraordinarily successful for investors… though we also know the examples of failed rollouts and failed expansions. It seems silly to predict Zöe’s fate with any great confidence, but there is room to hope. I think they’re expanding the right way — company owned stores for true brand and quality control, expansion focused on existing markets with conservative rollouts into new markets, and careful site selection… but that doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed to work.

I’ve never eaten at a Zöe’s, and that’s part of the appeal — though it was a pretty “hot” IPO back in April, and was pretty successful on the market for a few months, more insider selling (mostly from those early private equity investors) helped to really bring the stock down in recent months, and it is not a concept that most investors know or have visited, so traders don’t walk out of the subway and get confronted with a line out the door at their local Zöe’s Kitchen. Like Chipotle, which was born in Colorado and didn’t really catch fire until McDonald’s put a big cash infusion into the company, or Buffalo Wild Wings, which was born in Ohio, Zöe’s is probably not all that well understood and that’s partly because it came from a place Wall Street folks don’t know: Alabama.

They’re based in Texas now, but the company started in the Birmingham, Alabama area, with recipes inspired by the founder’s mother (Zöe) in the mid-1990s… they now have less than a handful of stores north of the Mason Dixon line but really no presence in the huge (and expensive) metro markets of the Northeast, Midwest or West Coast. They put one store down the block from my old house in Washington, DC a year or two ago — which is either a harbinger or a coincidence, because it’s just a few steps from one of the first Chipotles that went in in DC as they were building out that metro area. I don’t live anywhere near a Zöe’s now, but I’d be curious to hear from any folks who have — is it busy, does it stand out as a different kind of eating location?

They expanded slowly in the South, Southeast and Texas, and sold a controlling stake to a private equity firm to finance their first forays into expansion and franchising in 2007 or 2008. As so often happens, that controlling stake led to the founder’s ouster as CEO a year or so later, and the company went through another franchising spurt before reorganizing again, starting to haul the franchises back in, and eventually getting some serious store growth underway in 2013 that let them go public this year, paying back some debt and boosting the store count again.

I don’t know if the founding family is still involved (they’re not on the board or anything like that, as far as I can tell), and the private equity backers and other insiders have sold out of most of their stake, which I think is the cause of much of the recent weakness. I don’t generally worry about insider selling, particularly in cases where insiders have been locked up for five, ten or more years waiting for an IPO, but it’s not a strong sign and I’m not crazy about the lack of meaningful insider ownership. Small companies with strong insiders, or preferably with founders still involved, are generally more appealing — but that’s not a negative, it’s just the absence of a positive.

So I’m reluctant to get excited about Zöe’s Kitchen without ever having visited one of their locations, and without really knowing what makes them work, but it’s a well-marketed company that is growing revenue very fast and has essentially no “national media” exposure or presence on the coasts or in big cities. The IPO was well-received on that first day, the stock never traded anywhere near the low-teens where it was initially priced (it started trading around $24), and results have been probably just about as expected but more insider selling has kept investors wary. They’ll be trying to grow almost as dramatically next year, though it will likely be slower growth as a percentage unless they ramp up their investment quite a bit.. and analysts do see them reporting a profit next year, from this year’s expectation of being roughly break-even on an earnings-per-share basis.

I think I’d probably actually be inclined to wait until they have some kind of failed store openings or a few missteps before getting interested — even Chipotle had that a few times along the way — but that’s mostly because I don’t know them, if I lived in Alabama and had been an enthusiastic fan of Zöe’s for years, maybe that would give me the confidence to bet that their concept will be a huge national hit in a decade. If you’ve got that kind of experience with Zöe’s, or if you’ve visited and thought “nothing special,” well, let us know — and if you’re inclined to take a nibble now that it’s fallen back closer to where it traded on IPO day, we’d be interested to hear that, too… just throw your opinions on the pile with a comment below.

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jvr052
jvr052
December 23, 2014 2:32 pm

I looked at it a few days ago and I’ll continue to keep an eye on it. I like the concept but there are none in my area so I haven’t seen or eaten at one. I’ll also be interested to hear from anyone who is more familiar with the company and its restaurants.

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Judy
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Judy
December 28, 2014 9:34 pm
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I like Zoe’s Kitchen. The food is good. They have skewers, salad and pita points with hummus, and other items. I like it better than Noodles. Try it when it comes to your area.

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Peter Whimsey
December 23, 2014 2:52 pm

There is one in Asheville, NC, which seems to get pretty good traffic; I have eaten there about 5 times, and enjoyed the food. I will check it out several more times with a more investor eye and report back. Interesting to see how they do this winter, which is a bit slow for this tourist driven town.

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bobbill
bobbill
December 23, 2014 3:03 pm

Have 2 locations here in Baton Rouge. Have not been yet but will plan on making a visit.

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bob warren
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bob warren
December 23, 2014 3:18 pm
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There is a location in Flower Mound, TX, which is adjacent to at least 5 other eateries. It does a decent business, and has a large lunch crowd daily. I’ve eaten here several times; good food and quick service.

billtench
December 23, 2014 4:55 pm
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3 Zoe’s in San Antonio. Located in upscale shopping areas. My wife drags me there when we shop together. Places are full. Lunchtime crowd is mostly women (WAG-80%). No frills, fast service, good, light healthy food. Prices reasonable.

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Brian Smith
December 23, 2014 3:32 pm

Chairman of the Board, Greg Dollarhyde, is a restaurant savant, having started and sold multiple chains such as Baja Fresh to Wendy’s.
He is now also involved in The Veggie Grill. He knows talent, he knows food costs, and how to market. I am long Zoe’s kitchen and participated in the IPO for disclosure purposes.
He and his investors have a good chunk of the business as well.

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Tom
December 23, 2014 3:52 pm

I really am a fan of WEN for anyone getting into the restaurant world. Their growth story is just beginning, and a majority of their “turn around” issues are solved. Related, but not quite identical story.

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D. Heginbotham
December 23, 2014 4:21 pm

I first stumbled into a Zoe’s a couple of weeks ago and have been back two more times since then. Not surprisingly from today’s article, this Zoe’s is in a shopping center with a Whole Foods and a bunch of other small restaurants. The food is great, the place was packed at noon, and the prices are dirt cheap for this area (a Washington DC suburb). They may be on to something- it looks pretty good to me.

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quincy adams
December 23, 2014 5:29 pm

Whole Foods notwithstanding, they may have a hard sell in Texas. The new Zoe’s in my neck of the woods has a great location and some tasty food, but the help doesn’t have it’s act together. The hungry Bubba is likely to get tired of waiting for his healthy “greek” whatever and leave for the nearest BBQ. If this store is the norm, I suggest investors beware.

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art slesinger
December 23, 2014 5:51 pm

The answer to our inquiry is the Potomac Maryland Zoe’s is busy at lunch time. The location has parking issues as they are in Park Potomac next to Harris Teeter and parking can be pain. The traffic would suggest the model is working.

Richard Sewell
Richard Sewell
December 23, 2014 5:52 pm

I am long Zoes. I visited a restaurant in Chandler, Az and thought the food, service and prices were good. If they can get into California I think that will help the stock to take off. I see every In and Out Burger in Southern California packed with long lines at the drive thru even in off hours and I don’t think their food is anything special. Folks are always looking for something different which is what helped Chipotle become so successful, and I think Zoes has enough differentiation to be successful as well.

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Jeffrey M
Jeffrey M
December 23, 2014 8:16 pm

Intrigued; interesting test will be when they move into NYC. Always lines out the door at Chipotle down the block from my office and some hamburger/shake place a bit farther away

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Hartley Barclay
December 24, 2014 5:50 am

I am almost inclined to NIBBLE at ZOES in early 2015, say 100 shares to the sock drawer so to speak and see what happens.

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mdinvest
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December 24, 2014 10:39 am

There is a zoe’s in a mall near me (outside dc). Place seems busy, but not nearly as much so as the chipotle’s in the same mall. Been there a couple of times food average for a casual venue.

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John
John
December 24, 2014 11:12 am

Ate at Zoes for the first time in Huntsville, Al. Pleasantly surprised with the food and friendly employees. Unique, flavorful cuisine. Business was good. No frills. Tips not allowed. I believe it would do well in other parts of the country. Not an owner of the stock, but may nibble at a lower price.

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GSH
December 24, 2014 6:28 pm

Look at TXRH. It offers a 2% yield and gets generally high investment marks.

jonomalley
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December 25, 2014 12:05 am

I posted a question about it on facebook and got some positive feedback. Overall seems people like Zoe’s quite a lot. Someone said they like the food a lot more than Chipotle. Said it’s a little slower but higher quality and you can order ahead online and it’s ready when you get there. So far I like what I see. A good, fast growing concept like this can be good enough to be able to withstand a decent number of small mistakes in leadership and still build shareholder value. I’m thinking of starting a small position and maybe building and observing over time. Thanks for this one, Travis. Merry Christmas everyone.

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Mark
December 26, 2014 1:26 am

There are a couple of Zoe’s in Louisville; one in an upscale shopping center, the other in a recently redeveloped suburban strip center across the street from a locally owned Whole Foods competitor. I’ve eaten at Zoe’s a couple of times and was not terrible impressed. Sandwiches were just okay, nothing special. The crowds were also nothing special. At the height of lunch hour, they wee reasonably busy but lines were not longer and it took less than five minutes to get through. Based only on my limited experience I have not bought any of the stock and don’t intend to unless I see something change dramatically at the local stores or it’s shown to me that the local stores are aberrations.

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tddifly
December 26, 2014 6:30 pm

I don’t know about ZOES, but one thing is for sure. I love this website and all the good info that it gives me.

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JEFF H
December 30, 2014 12:46 pm

Easy to list reasons why a restaurant concept should not succeed.

ZOES has a few things going for it that should help the stock over the next three to five years. For a quick serve, food quality (what brings people back) is good to very good and a very good value for the dinner day-part. Unit economics are favorable with sales ($1.5M ave unit volume: AUV) to investment ($750k) of about 2:1, which should allow for internally generated cash flow to finance the bulk of expansion within a couple of years. The AUV will steadily increase by expanding into major markets – the existing location footprint is in the South. The head of real estate development came from Panera (comparable target customer) and as she expands into more densely populated Northern markets, AUVs will increase noticeably.

Beyond a five-year investment horizon or about 1,200 locations, I’m less certain. The lunch day part is critical and the portable, hand-held menu items that appeal to younger males (18 to 34) are lacking (for $8, I can eat eight McDoubles at MCD, or one gut-busting burrito at CMG, or a relatively small steak rollup at ZOES). The management team will engineer performance but not sure they have a brand champion (Dollarhyde and Miles are no Steve Ells or Howard Schultz). G&A/overhead is fat – should shrink as a percentage of sales as the concept expands and eliminate the need for “adjusted” EBITDA in financial statements but easier said than done when rapidly opening new locations.

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c193
January 4, 2015 3:08 pm

Well, something I know a little bit about! I’m a Birmingham AL native though I don’t live there now. First and foremost, I think Zoe’s Kitchen rides the current wave of ‘fresh’ very well, as does Five Guys. There are two ZOES in my current city. One is a bit better than the other. The chicken kabobs with rice and Greek salad at 8.99 have been my best menu option so far. (serving size is quite large, imo.) I too have thought of doing a small ‘Motif’ type investment of two or three restaurants riding current trends, just to keep things interesting.

The most interesting thing to me personally about ZOES is how the menu seems to be an Americanized and fast served version of another Birmingham restaurant called The Pita Stop. The Pita Stop serves kabobs, falafal, rice, salad, etc. (there may be a connection between the restaurants, who knows.).
As far as I know, The Pita Stop is still there and is a great option if you ever find yourself in Birmingham, which is a bit of a foodie destination. Some great meals available in Birmingham.
Does anyone know anything about El Pollo Loco? Is it riding the ‘fresh’ wave?

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