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Do the research everything virtual reality related. for example Nvidia NASDAQ: NVDA as you all probably know is the hardware-software company that dominates all computer graphics cards. Nvidia is not your immediate stock gain but either was amazon back in 1997. Nvidia is moving upwards now a little at a time everyday. Buy and hold Nvidia, Same goes for Netflix as more and more subscribers are joining Netflix, buy and hold.
I used Tom’s Money Calendar for the initial 60 day trial period they offered plus most of the extra 30 days I got simply by asking. Likely my best trade was getting my money back, which I have to say was no problem at all. I closed 12 trades – 2 doubles (which is what he promises) and 10 losers. Not all of his rec’s could you get into – they wouldn’t fill at his recommended price. The losers ranged from smaller losses (4) to total write-offs (6), which are common on naked calls or puts. So obviously nothing close to his accuracy claims. He used a combination of calls, puts and spreads and taught about various options techniques. All good information, but as I told them when I quit, I could likely afford the advice, I just couldn’t afford to follow it. My losses over the just under 90 days were greater than their fees. Glad I got my fees back at least.
Yes, you were really lucky. Those of us who follow his recommendations to the letter and have been doing so for say a year know full well that 80% of his recommendations are TOTAL and absolute failures–virtually no return on your investment. So, the few doubles that he does make do not give you a positive return. You were VERY smart to get out when you did and I would recommend that everyone do as you do!!!
Here is a sample from Tom Gentile’s Money Calendar portfolio–I follow his recommendations to the letter (or I did), but I probably won’t anymore. I use about $500 per trade, just as Tom recommends. This is my portfolio today:
CSCO: down $36
PFE: down $498
VZ: down $102
WYNN: down $642
PCLN: down $74
KO: down $64
PG: down $72
DIA (butterfuly): Down $178
You have to admit, this is an awesome 0% track record. And these are only the LATEST losers, there were several other losers just before this. Perhaps you should advertise these results rather than that fictitious one that Tom and his management use…..
Terry
I lost a lot of money on Tom Gentiles trades on Money Map Press weekly Cash Clock weekly options . He got it wrong so many times despite the promises of ‘double your money every week with ‘ Americas number one Trader’
I have my own options service if anyone is interested, just don’t have the ad budget / slick sales pages like Money Map Press does.
Full track record/explanation here: http://mmpublishinginc.net
-Matt
I dont use its money calendar as to me it is too expensive, but i have subscribed one of the service, with a site that he founded in the past called optionsanalysis.com, is a cheaper version of his new site http://www.tomsoptiontools.com .
There is good info called DarkNet signal (usually work for Buy Call), and also something call Earning Straddle, where you based on the info and decide which trade you want to take up.
of course your own TA analysis is required as additional filter before entering the trade. Cost per month around USD$25, sharing the subscriptions with 3 other friends to keep the cost low.
This is something at least useful, good thing is they keep a lot of historical data so we can do you own analysis.
The appalling losses of Tom Gentile Weekly Cash Clock in his scandalous proclamations of a low risk strategy that returns high return is just a disgrace. It produces double digit returns ok, double digit losses, and eventually triple digit losses once you hit the 100% mark and are wiped out. When you add in the front running (just analyse the time stamps of when trades were executed, impossible for someone not already in receipt of the information to find the stock symbol and place the trades), you will see what an utterly deplorable, wholly unscrupulous dishonest opportunist this guy is. He then has the temerity to describe himself as America’s number 1 trader. Number 1 crook and shyster, maybe, but nothing grander than that.
Thank you everyone for your comments. I almost took the bait…
They are now asking $4995 for both of Gentile’s services…
Here an idea, use his service and bet the opposite side of the trade…
Who is Travis, I am new and GLAD I did NOT purchase the Money Calendar. Hope to meet some good people here …
That question has come up a few times in this thread. Travis is Travis Johnson aka Stock Gumshoe. You’re on (part of) his site as you read this page. You can click on the Gumshoe logo or just shorten the url to http://www.stockgumshoe.com. As you’ve seen in this thread, most (all?) of his subscribers and readers have a great deal of respect for his insights and articles, certainly including me. Poke around a bit, most of the stuff on the site is free. You can, like me, choose to become a subscriber or ‘irregular.’ I did that quite a while ago because I appreciated his work and wanted to throw a few dollars his way to support it.
How do I become a Member? It shows me as. “Guest”. Do any of you use The Money Report? Or do you dislike that as well?
So if he is giving away 2.5 mil on this special offer why are they taking in 3.75 mil to join this. A cool 1.25 mil in profit. He may have some winners but as some know he has plenty of losers also. I think I’ll get trade like Chuck for free.
Chuck is far from free , be aware
The Trade Like Chuck Free Offer is not actually free – they say the Book & Video are free but the shipping is about $20 – which is a fair price for a book. They will also pitch you the Stock Option Advisory Service for $6,000.00 / year – Chuck has a good track record but that is too expensive for me (Also – your trading account needs to be able to Buy & Sell Options, and Spreads).
Chuck offers a far more affordable service, called Hughes Optioneering. They provide 4 recs for bullish call option spreads each Sunday, selecting stocks that have been in a strong uptrend for several months but recently had a small downturn creating a “buying opportunity”. They set both options significantly in the money so that the spread should be profitable even if the stock itself loses up to 8% during the 40-45 day time period to expiration. In normal times this should be a brilliant yet conservative way to make substantial profits…but it’s not so hot as in present circumstances when stocks are highly volatile and trend negative.
You can attend his seminars for free and learn quite a bit about stock selection, ways to invest (some quite novel), and buying protective puts — all good tools to know about. Like Jeff, I couldn’t justify the $6,000.00 entry fee for the full service, didn’t realize it was annual either. Yikes!
abritc – Thanks for the info on Hughes Optioneering. Jeff
Who is Chuck, could you please share his info on the net.
Thanks.
You are exactly correct. As a day trader just learning Options my core account was with all the holdings of my equities. In order for you to begin options, you must at least have $2000 in your core account to begin. Or if you do have some savings in your bank account make a deposit into your brokerage in order to reap benefits.
Be careful of this Gentile he is a bum from optionetics, as a speaker, not from home depot. He was not good in teaching options there, so what is he up to now?
I agree with Louis. I took that optionetics course and paid a lot of money. On top of that you had to pay more to actually keep going. One could attend any future courses and my son was supposed to have a free course too.
I consider myself above average in intelligence and things weren’t explained clearly
You. Had to pay more money to pay for their software!!!
Where is optionetics now?
I have not received one email from them regarding seminars.
What seems to be the biggest misunderstanding is that these are “recommendations” anyone blindly following anyone else’s recommendations without using stop limits and LOTS of vetting through looking at the greeks and the current charts with intelligence is a fool and will soon be parted with their money. Are recommendations worth $2K a year? They might be to someone just getting started, but if you don’t know how to trade and vet recommendations you shouldn’t be trading in the first place.
Everyone posting high spirited comments is way too emotional to be trading. Anyone losing 100% on a trade has no idea what they are doing, option trades are far too short for a recovery after a 20-25% loss it almost never happens before the options expire, if you really believe in a turnaround on a call, apply a sell order on a drop and turn it into a spread to lower the option price, but with spreads you are still risking a loss. Trading is a math business and there is no place for emotion, just lots of math and loss protection. As Warren Buffet says… The First Rule of trading is don’t lose money, the Second Rule is don’t forget to apply Rule Number One. Use Stop Limits on every trade, where you place your limits is your personal technique. Use them even when you are making a profit to capture the gain in case there is a sudden market drop! Cancel and raise as you go. Waiting for someone to tell you to when to exit a bad trade is just stupid and rolling dice.
wow you should have your own stock rec.company!
thank you as i tried to get refund but just lost $2k
bill disabled veteran operation enduring freedom
I lost another $1000 to him I cannot stand him (Tom Gentile) He will rip- you off. DO NOT use his service !!!!!!!
So sorry to hear that William. But, you just saved me from doing the same, so thank you. His new offering is lowering his $599 annual price to his Million Dollar Master Class with monthly fee $39 or $79. Both have 60 day guarantee attached. Sounds really hard to believe. I am intermediate on placing options but I did learn that my Broker account has to have $500 cash for EACH already in my account and he is supposed to be sending 12 per month. That’s over $7000 locked up waiting for the trade to happen. It has 100% money back guarantee for 60 days. That money does not include any option losses, just the original fee pd. Wow
Lzatuti, thanks for sharing, Im a beginner, what seminar or book would you recommend for me and what company would you recommend to open a trading account with.
Harry check out “First Steps and Favorite Tools for New Investors” https://www.stockgumshoe.com/2014/11/first-steps-and-favorite-tools-for-new-investors/ #Best2YouAlwayz ~ Ben
Thank you for telling me; The video I seen, he made it sound so easy to do.
agreed
Are you a broker or do you have a blog? I would like to learn some of the techniques you mentioned.
What’s the best/simplest book or site for learning what you need to know, regarding things like applying a sell order to a drop and turning it into a spread to lower the option price? The problem is that The Money Calendar makes it sound so easy. I think the service needs a companion book. What would you suggest in the way of a companion book for The Money Calendar, so that women who have been taught to patiently wait and not ask too many annoying questions don’t lose all their money?
Guys, I’m telling you, my subscribers of my “Fed Minutes” system just hit another 150% trade on the day the Fed raised interest rates about a week and a half ago…we make money if the market goes UP or DOWN…but only during certain event like days when the Fed Minutes come out.
Type in mmpublishinginc net to see how it works for free.
how?
the market makes a big enough move in either direction to make straddles/strangles profitable, but there is a certain twist that I add to the process that makes it work like gangbusters 😉 https://fedtraderservice.com/order
That link doesn’t work. Is it still viable?
Tom, talks a good line and he probably means well. However, for me, I cannot be present at all hours of the day and react to his recommendations within 2 t0 30 seconds. Therefore, My result are terrible. Getting out after 2+years of trying.
really just 2 to 30 seconds?
Hello, I wonder if anyone can tell me if Tom Gentile sends reports to Argentina about the 24/7 ALERT program? I’m sorry for my English I have nowhere else to ask. Thank you very much. Please reply to jgross@DR.com
Join they will send report to Antartica , simply give them your credit card , however beware of promises here it’s why mike ward say you would have made 999.000.000 in 24 month , however they show you how to make 19 000.00 in less than a minute , well that would mean , please grab a calculator 19 000 x 60 minutes = 1,140,000 an hour , multiply by 8 hours a day you get : 9, 120,000 multiply by 300 days and you get 912 000 300 dollars a year . Let’s be serious here for a moment would they send on the internet to anyone the possibility to earn that kind of money , No it is all hogwash , but then it is your money , Do you work like I do ? this aside some of the testimony are phony as you cannot see the beach from Vista California it is 15 miles away at best ……Save your money 90% of these are misleading .
John, it’s terribly important for people like you to shed some light on the reality. It simply sounded too good to be true and we all know how those implications turn out. Not as stated. I appreciate you saving me $2500 he wants today only for the Money Calendar Pro. It comes with eight sell dates but no buy dates and for what price. If it is advertised this way why wouldn’t he explain the entire methodology involved such as the buy date at what price, he only shows four cash in dates of the calls. I don’t know much about options so it would be Greek to me. Did you get the three instructions with your info texted to you or emailed.?? I simply had to look and see if anyone had contrary statements.
Thanks, Mark
And why doesn’t he ever mention & explain that his service involves “selling & buying calls & put options” behind the reason for exponential gains ( & losses), likely bewildering novices to reading/investing – as if he’s afraid that readers will bolt after understanding what is involved.
The magnitude of profits that are advertised should be all the info you need to realize he is NOT talking about stock trading. The instruments where such profits are possible include a few penny stocks, cheap options, and sometimes futures, but such claims almost always involve cheap options. If you did not realize this, perhaps you don’t have enough trading experience to be messing with any of these services.
Don’t trade what you don’t know. Options in theory are good, but there is a lot to know about them. But, yes, you can make a bunch of money on them…. just like any other stock, commodity, currency, etc. if you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
I’m sick and tired of people beating this guy and others up at Money Map Press. Very convenient to blame others for your losses. Trades aren’t losers, your mentality is. See Steele’s comments above.
Oh, but he says you don’t have to buy a single share. ? And, there are big discrepancies on the yearly
amount. My post , stated $39,00 base package, $79.00 Platinum Package, and also for “today” $99.00 yearly subscription at the end of 30 day trial. It is very confusing, when I see it is really $4,000.00 a year? and run under another company? Instant money, without buying a single share..
Be very careful in using Tom Gentile’s suggestions. There are so many better
news letters to seek help from. Your best bet is an honest knowledgable broker
especially if your new to options. This time of entering into the market when we have
to expect that there is avery good chance of a correction could be economic suicide
for a new commer . Best of luck.
This guy needs to be sued for Deceptive Trade Practice and Fraud. Posted a call trade on 07/28 for QQQ and sets a limit of 3.00. Sends an email today stating the trade is up 18%. I bot at 2.57 and its trading at 1>80, a loss of 29%. Called and they said he bot at 1.99 before making a recommendation, and looked today when the price was allegedly2.36. This is typical of most of his trades, I seem to buy higher than he and sell at less than he does. Wonder if he is trading against his recommendations and using his readers to drive prices. Caveat emptor. Money Map needs more transparency and less smoke and mirrors.
Man that stinks Lou. I have a service for options trading with over a 60% win rate (at the moment, but could improve), please sign up for a free look at fedtraderservice [dot] com
why dont you spend some of that money your making on marketting instead of spamming our room
It doesn’t worth 60 %. If I pick some good stocks and buy and sell on random I will make 50% profit means I make 50% loss too. Ultimately I have a loss of time. If any gurus could’t prove 75% profit it is not worth wasting your money.
agree they promised 19 K in less thaan a minute , this boil down to 912 000 300 a year then look closer at the so called testimony , there is no beach in Vista California it is 15 miles inland , there are no frank Williams in west lake California , there are no mark tyrelll md in kissimmee florida , what other proof anyone need .
Again John good observation. Even to see if these people even exist. I can’t understand why he offers no guarantees, usually these type of deals will give you at least 30 days to get a refund. Please email me to better inform me on what to look out for. Thanks So Much, Mark
Actually, a rather horrible observation, however, a great example of the necessity for privacy law, and how possessing just enough information, you can be dangerous to yourself.
–JG
John – If you could not find the actual people in the testimonial then I wonder if they are paying for “testimonial actors” – I hope not but you never know. Jeff
More importantly, yes, $19k can be made providing there is the obligated capital behind it.
Take Disney, I studied it to sell a lot of Puts to make $5000 a month credit. Needed to have $200k in a cash account or $100k in a margin account. With the February correction, sold puts would had been assigned, thus, the $200k obligation would had turned to a $200k Disney stock holding. The good apart, it was a Disney low & then sell covered calls till the stock is called away from you.
I didn’t do the sold put trade because that is $200k tied up & I do better buying calls & puts with less capital tied up.
Therefore, to get the $19k credit selling puts, you would had to have $800k in obligation, strong faith the stock is going in the up trend & time to wait.
On selling naked calls for stocks to drop, a strong rally would produce the same obligation expect it is unlimited risk as taught in trade schools.
You wouldn’t need anywhere near that much if you do a simple put spread – many brokers only require the spread difference – i.e., you sell a put for $10, and buy a further from the money put for $5. You would only need the $5 difference in the spread ($500 per contract) for this scenario. Not taking losing trades into account, 10 contracts would get your $5000 per month so only $5000 would be required to have on account. Different brokers have different requirements so you need to look for one that understands that the purchased put is the collateral for the sold one. Interactive Brokers is one that comes to mind. I used one (I think it was Options Express) that was great and got everything about options. But they sold the company to Schwab and all of a sudden there were many ridiculous rules that led me to believe that they either really didn’t get options or their computer systems weren’t programmed to accomodate that kind of trade.
And there is no such place as BleeBlee in Queensland Australia, it’s spelt Bli Bli, pronounced Bly Bly
Lou, you hit the nail on the head! Tom Gentile takes all visibility out from what he is personally doing, just recommends what YOU should do. If you blindly follow his calendar recommendations, which most non-traders will automatically do, using Tom’s overly repeated “90%” certainty, his subscribers are definitely going to drive the market just enough for his trades to be very successful because he has the only view behind the mirror he is creating. Tom’s subscribers will always perform much lower than Tom when using his recommended dates. And, he is also getting $2,500 from each subscriber that he can use risk free to make his own option trades with 100% visibility that his subscribers don’t have or ever will! (unless they do their own research, set up stop limits and then make call/put moves in attempts to recover….which of course takes time, time, time and is no longer the simple 10 second deal he is selling….Gains like this will never magically appear in your account without hard work…HOWEVER THIS SYSTEM IS RIGGED SO THAT IT WILL IN HIS ACCOUNT!
Strictly speaking, most of this people are not making any money. Their main income is the subscription money they are collecting from the customers. I had at least tried more them 10 gurus and lost a god amount of money. Frankly speaking two gurus were good. But the gain will be small unless you are a bulk investor. Any way you will not lose your principle.
Jacob – If you do not mind sharing, who were the two Gurus that are good?. Jeff
Although I haven’t even ordered his course, this smells alot like the ‘selling naked calls – selling naked puts approach’ that you only are able to take advantage of with an account that will allow margin, and that you have funded enough to have stock put to you if it should go the wrong way. And most of the people looking to take advantage of this type of opportunity don’t have that kind of money to start with.
My two cents..
Dave – The only way I know of to get money into your account immediately is by selling Calls or Puts and taking option premium (cost) then you need to wait for the option to hopefully expire worthless and you Keep the money. If the trade is going against you can buy the option back to close the trade, or if the option is “in the money” at expiration it will be exercised and you are obligated to buy 100 shares of the stock at the strike price for Each Option you sold. Yes – you need a margin account to sell options (Naked or Covered). Jeff
buddfox, to sell naked put or covered calls you do not need a margin account account. I do not have a margin account yet I do both frequently.
When I sell the naked put the brokerage will put a hold on sufficient funds to cover the cost of the stock if it is put to me. And if I own the stock, as I would with a covered call, there is no need for the brokerage to do anything except to refuse to let me sell the stock prior to the experation date. Then if the stock is called away it simply disappears from my account. In that case there would be no reason for a margin account. Paul
That’s exactly what he is doing and what the elite does with sectors at a time. They use Wall Street Journal, MSNBC etc to get the masses to join in while they get ready to sell off during the tail end of the hype.
If Gentile was so good makingv oodles of money why is he pitching his “program” to the public.?
Thanks for sharing
Lou – yes, that’s called ‘front running’, which basically is a variant of ‘pump and dump’ with stocks. The ‘guru’ will buy the option at say $1.00, then issues a recommendation to his subscribers to buy, quickly driving up the price. By the time you read the reco, the price has gone up 2-3X. He then quickly sells at say $2.00-3.00 and makes a quick profit leaving you and everyone else who got the recommendation in the dust. I know the feeling as I was burnt once on a stock ‘pump and dump’ scheme that I foolishly fell for about a SA gold mining stock. Lost a couple grand, but learned a valuable lesson. All these so called ‘guru’ option traders are making their living (and Tom Gentile, Chuck Hughes, and many others) have been selling their ‘snake oil’ option and futures courses for years (I bought a day trading futures course Gentile was hawking 10 years ago and never made a dime). They’re making major $$$$ selling their expensive subscriptions, no refunds, and doing the ‘front running’ schemes I described above, IF THEY TRADE AT ALL (which I have a feeling very few do since they know it’s too risky). Save your money, get a few books on Options or read everything you can find at OIC – and don’t keep supporting these crooks – the only ones getting rich from their so-called ‘advisories’ are themselves.
$2500 to join Tom Gentile’s ‘Money Calendar’ with virtually no guarantee, is a recipe for disaster. If he has that great a program he got robbed if he really sold it for $20 million. I would try it if there was a glimmer of a guarantee, but THERE IS NONE!
In the ad I saw , he is guaranteeing that if you don’t double your $ during the next 4 months where he gives you 40 opportunities to do so – by (till Jan 1), he will cut you a check for some $ out of his million he has set aside for it -depending on the # of people who call in and say they didn’t double their $…The less # of people who call in, the more $ you get back. Now how he is going to monitor people telling the truth and proving they didn’t double their $ I don’t know..
I just watched his presentation on Facebook tonight. He was only charging $39.00 for a year of membership with a 60 day garuntee or a $79.00 two year deal with a few extra reports and perks.
That’s the exact same program I was just about to buy, but now that I’ve visited this forum I’m not so sure.
IMHO…if anyone could possibly make that kind of money in that little amount of time, don’t you think the entire WORLD would find a way to scrape together the $2,500 to purchase his novelty program? Think about it, you’d make that $2,500 back in a couple hours and a “couple of clicks” and you could easily pay back the person you borrowed the money from in the first place. He’s a total con artist or rather what he’s selling is a scam, either way, if his program works the way he says it does, then there’d be no more broke people or people living paycheck to paycheck. The best stories always start with something like….I was living out of my car, blah blah blah. It only takes your own common sense and a bit of ignoring the FOMO to realize this guy is laughing his whole way to the BANK!
I purchased the optionnetics course years ago from Tom Gentile and George Fontallis. It was like $2999 or $3999, money back garanteed if you did not triple your
money in 3 months. I did not make 3 times my money and never got a refund. American Express could not refund the transaction either as it was 3 months old
Did you make any money?
I went through most of the training from optionetics. Spend over $24,000 on advanced courses and products over an 18 month period. I had just sold my company and had a 3 year non compete and was looking for something to do to generate income. I certainly know a lot about options for all the classes and work I put into it, but overall I did not make money through optionecitcs. Had a put the same amount of time I did in options trading into another startup (I have had three companies in healthcare staffing and I sold each one and am comfortably retired but it was 25 years of work) I would have been further along. I also took other training (Dan Millman and others that were a bit more helpful and I assume there is still some good ones) and towards the end learned to trade volatility into earnings on stocks that typically get IV spikes and had some success. Only about 5-10 percent of options traders make money. They can work to protect stock positions but in all the years and seminars I attended with optionecitcs there were very few people I met that made a living doing this. I met some that lost a significant amount of money though even mortgaging their homes to take more classes and trade. Personally, I don’t think there is such a thing as an instant money making system in options or stocks. Selling naked calls and puts could quickly drain a small account. If that is what Tom is doing and it sounds like it, better take some of the others advice on this thread. You will need to have a good sized account to do this and be allowed to margin your positions. Sometimes there are no shortcuts in life to become successful in my experience and if it sounds too good to be true they are likely to take your money and time versus the advertisements.
Note, he sold the supply pattern system in the 90s before home computers and the internet were household things. Yet, pattern studies have been around for a while, he just got lucky to have develop it & got a buyer. Today, there is enough good analysis software to do your own.
The sell put seasonal & earnings season strategy is tricky in itself, thus, develop your own trade plan, tested it & start small positions till you have the track record.
His back ground say it all , Home Depot the kings of BS ….. Be cautious with mike ward , tom gentile and the gang , they only want your credit card account the rest tough luck , be ready for endless solicitation , Hey if the first product was right why are you keeping selling more and more every week at the tune of $ 3,999.00 that’s right , they call that Jewish accounting , please justify the .99 ???
Agreed – best thing to do is continuing to click to unsubscribe from all MMP, but pay attention to Stock Gumshoe to find out what’s being recommended. EDIT (Editas Medicine) has gone from 21 to 30 in 4 months which is about their best recommendation of the year – but I found out the name of the mystery stock HERE. I am actually an Irregular just logged in as a guest today.
and back down with no sell ,
EDIT is being pumped again , join [sarcasm ]
To get the same money calendar for your self , why not use the service at http://www.seasonalysis.com, which can show the stock most likely to benefit in a 30-day period. then use options. My guess is Tom Gentile uses out of the money options , so that a $500 trades result in multiple contracts that become in-the money near to expiry based on historical values in seasonality. This would account for the huge gains he shows in his examples. Tom’ service only gives alerts , and so it doesn’t seem to show the calendar.
Seasonalysis have great data and a 14-day trial with monthly of $49 , so this seem to be more sensible than the price of Tom’ service. FYI i have no affiliation with them, but just want to present an alternative opinion.
it sounds like FOREX!! i am not sure if i understand his Money Calendar
FOXEX is trading currencies, Tom appears to be mainly trading stock options