I’ve had one persistent reader ask about this one a few times in the last week or so, and it’s a publisher I haven’t heard of before… and the kind of idea that sounds intuitively interesting, since I do love subscription businesses… so we’re going to check it out today.
The pitch is from Swen Lorenz, selling subscriptions to his his Undervalued Shares service — the service appears to give you an almost monthly analysis of a stock that he likes (10 a year) for $49/year, though what he’s selling currently is the lifetime membership ($999), which gives you four additional reports per year that focus on smaller and less liquid names. Lorenz seems like an interesting guy, going by his web presence, and he’s been an investment blogger and/or analyst for a decade or so, including a fair amount of published work for the UK’s Master Investor publication and some commentary I’ve read from time to time about frontier markets… but I don’t know what his track record might be.
And it’s one of those reports about a smaller companies that he dangles as bait for potential subscribers, calling it a “world-leading subscription business.” Whatever might it be?
Let’s check out our clues, shall we? Here’s what he says on undervalued-shares.com:
“I am not giving away too many clues about this company…
“A US-based investor recently ploughed about UD 60m into the stock and bought 10% of the entire company. However, the stock got caught up in the recent tech sell-off. Now is a great opportunity to get in at an even lower price than just a few months ago.
“Based on the estimates of that investor, the stock could rise 580% by 2025 and more than tenfold by 2030.”
What does the company do? He doesn’t really say, just this:
“This company’s business is timeless and benefits from secular trends. Over the past decade, the company has grown by 23% p.a.”
OK, so it’s at least been around a while…
Where is it? We don’t have to buy shares in Uzbekistan or something like that, do we? Apparently not…
“It’s a stock that is listed on one of the world’s largest stock exchanges, so anyone can easily buy and sell it.
“With a market cap of less than USD 500m, though, the stock has limited trading liquidity.”
The other clue on the site is this:
“It has developed a truly unique, little-understood model for selling a subscription-based service — combining online retailing, financing, and social media.”
That’s kind of intriguing, though I don’t really understand what it means. Can we name our secret stock?
Indeed, the Thinkolator did pretty well with this — just a few swift kicks after I got it out of the garage, and it was chugging away and spat out a pretty quick answer: This is Naked Wines (WINE.L in London, NWINF OTC in the US or MJWNY for the 1:4 OTC ADR), a company that essentially serves as a middleman and venture investor for winemakers who want to sell direct to customers.
And this spurs a little memory on my part. I was actually a customer of Naked Wines for a while, I bought a few cases over a year or two, maybe six or seven years ago — I’d have to look up the details to be sure, but I do particularly remember enjoying their Moulin Champagne, and I think they had some interesting Oregon pinot noirs. It’s an intuitively kind of fun service to use — you “subscribe” for $40 a month to participate, and that money goes into your balance, and you can use that money (and additional funds) to buy particular wines that become available. They spin it as effectively a venture investing deal — they call you an “Angel” for supporting winemakers who want to go out on their own, so they find interesting and usually fairly low-volume producers who have some professional pedigree, often folks who have some experience growing grapes or creating wines for the big brands, and they produce wines that are cheaper than similar wines from well-known labels.
Naked Wines is listed on the London Stock Exchange and reports in Pounds, and was started in the UK, and that UK business is doing well — but the US business is now both their fastest growing and most important segment (they’re also active in Australia). As of their latest investor presentation, they have 886,000 active members (“Angels”) who are buying wine or contributing funds for future wine purchases, with 20% of them on active subscriptions that automatically send them wine. Those Angels give them enough financial strength to attract and fund independent winemakers (now 226 winemakers in their system), who make wines that are exclusively sold to the Angels — the strategy appears to be to invest in both marketing to Angels and recruitment of winemakers, with a payback period of 2-3 years, after which those new Angels become profitable customers. So the key indicators are likely to be the cost to acquire new Angels, and the retention of those Angels as active buyers — at the moment, that looks pretty good, with 88% sales retention and a three year payback of their marketing costs, so the math, at least, indicates that the business can scale to consistent profitability.
Right now, they’re not quite profitable but they do have free cash flow and plenty of cash on the books — though a lot of their cash is also restricted customer funds (that $40 that Angels pay each month sits in their account until they choose a wine to buy with it). They’re offering pretty tepid revenue guidance for their 2022 fiscal year, probably mostly because their huge surge in revenue in 2021 was fueled by a big investment in customer acquisition and some aggressive efforts to help winemakers who faced COVID challenges…. so although the compound annual growth rate has indeed been impressive over the past five years at about 24%, it wasn’t at all steady, the lion’s share of that growth came last year. The last six months have been flat on the revenue line, and they’re anticipating total sales growth of 2-7% for their current fiscal year (which we’re halfway through right now). To some degree, it looks like last year was a big marketing push and that caused a big growth surge in new Angels, and they’re now digesting that and likely to be investing a little less in recruiting new customers this year.
And yes, there is one fairly high-profile hedge fund guy who likes and has invested $60 million to buy 9.9% of Naked Wines — that’s Glen Kacher, who made this his pick at a Sohn Conference about six months ago and made a presentation that called it the “Netflix of Wines” (Kacher’s Light Street Capital is fairly closely followed, he’s one of the “Tiger Cubs” who came out of Julian Robertson’s Tiger Management and are therefore assumed to be investing royalty — Kacher isn’t one of the more famous ones, though he did reportedly get caught by some of the “short squeeze” craziness a year ago and have some big losses, but nor is he infamous like fellow Tiger Cub Bill Hwang). And Kacher’s optimism is where those big estimates for growth come from, the business quadrupling over a few years and growing 10X in a decade. I haven’t seen his actual presentation, but here’s the interview that CNBC did with both Kacher and Naked Wines CEO Nick Devlin following that Sohn pick:
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So this isn’t exactly an unknown story on Wall Street, that particular pick drove a lot of attention in October and you’ll see a lot of “Netflix of Wine” stories that came out of his recommendation, and the shares shot up very briefly by about 40% — but that surge was short-lived, and the stock is now down about 50% from last year’s highs, so you’re no longer paying a really rich premium price for that Sohn Conference hype or the 2021 surge in revenue growth.
What it looks like you have now with Naked Wines is a subscription business with pretty good retention numbers, solid gross margins, a pretty good cash business because people pre-deposit for the wines they’ll eventually buy, and it is currently valued at only about 1X sales, partly because the current revenue growth is not particularly impressive. I don’t know if it will take off or not, or if they’ll be able to grow meaningfully in the future to match the big addressable market they see or will be stuck as a niche business, but that’s a pretty reasonable valuation if you want to begin thinking about it.
I enjoyed getting my boxes from Naked Wines a few years back, as I remember I enjoyed most of them, but I also eventually stopped — and I don’t remember why. I still drink plenty of wine, but maybe the backlog got too big, maybe I was just preoccupied with other things, maybe I had a few bottles in a row that I didn’t like, but I hadn’t thought about the company again until doing my research on it just now, and I guess that’s the risk — if they can’t keep customers, the business makes less sense, and for whatever reason they didn’t keep me. I’d be willing to give it another try, and as an investment it has some clear appeal because of the steady cash flow and the pretty strong community of winemakers they seem to have built, along with what looks like a very rational valuation, but it’s also a tough slog to go up against the big brands and famous labels and get the attention of wine drinkers. It’s not going to be the next Netflix, it may well stay a fairly small company, but I find myself reasonably attracted to the stock at first glance today.
What do you think? Worth popping the cork on this one? Think there are better opportunities for the wine-happy investor? Let us know with a comment below. Thanks for reading!
Disclosure: I do not own any of the companies mentioned above, and will not trade in any covered stock for at least three days after publication.
I just read an article about how as the population ages, the number of wine drinkers is decreasing .. they keep adding more acreage and I think that it is quite possible that wineries don’t have that great a future .. but then again no one knows
Will climate change damage wine growers in their respective countries and in the USA, some states???????
It has certainly changed growing regions over the past few decades, making some more attractive and some less attractive… what that means for the decades to come when it comes to any specific region of the world, I don’t know.
Because of climate change England is the new France and should so quite well for the next 10 years.
no it happens naturally
Thank you for your political perspective. We all come here to see that.
About 10,000 years ago the Lake Erie wine region in Ohio was under a glacier. 10,000 years relative to the age of the earth is a grain of sand. Yet, over a relatively short time, the glacier melted and formed the great lakes (and some very fertile wine growing areas). Some elements of climate change must occur naturally, as the impact on climate from man during this time was not material. Note: I’m not a scientist, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in the past…
Take a derivative of those numbers, and chart it over the millennia.
Then see whether you can find any anomalies!
I believe I see all sides, yet have concluded that, although warming and cooling cycles are natural and the earth is huge and resilient, the earth simply cannot sustain life the SAME as it’s done for millennia after a relatively sudden onslaught of multiple TONS of pollutants put into the air and water EVERY single day over the last several decades.
I like sven lorenz undervalued shares substack.
Not sure if there are sufficient potential angels for this business to grow.
I placed my bet on vintage wine estate.
Interesting, that’s the “Mr. Wonderful” company that actually buys up vineyards, right? Similar size, though Naked Wines has twice the revenue, and similarly somewhat pallid growth on the top line. More of a clear “status” offering, since they give you perks (like tastings and tours) for being a shareholder, but don’t know anything about how the actual wines might compare.
The “netflix” of anything is such a stupid comparison. Netflix sells TV and movie entertainment, the most deep and widely penetrating mass market product on the planet. Just because you deliver something online does not make it equivalent to netflix by a long shot. Its apples and oranges. If they had said its the Coca Cola of wines, or the Bespoke Post of wine boxes that would at least make sense. The “Netflix of Wines” tells me these people are willfully ignoring fundamental economic principles such as cultural relevance in purchasing behavior.
Analogies and metaphors make the investing world go ’round — “Netflix of Wine” brings to mind a sticky subscription model, which is what investors crave, and I guess it perks up the ears more than “subscription-based small-scale venture capital for vintners.”
We are reduced to a society of bumper-sticker slogans.
That’s our new max attention span.
Much better than being the “Blockbuster of wines.” 😀
I think I prefer The Duckhorn Portfolio, Inc. (NAPA). It’s a U.S. company, more information is available.
Bought a six pack of their wine at one of their wine tasting stores while in Oregon a few years ago. It’s the only wine I’ve ever bought in a plastic bottle. Wasn’t impressed at all with the wine, as I perceived it as being an overpriced wine and hence would never buy it again. Hence, I wouldn’t buy their stock.
Interesting, didn’t know they did physical retail — was it at a winery?
Hello Travis: Fascinating article. I just retired from 40+ years in the wine business and I also had (and dropped) an account with Naked Wines. I think you would need to get more information about drop-out rates at winery clubs – I’m betting they would be a good comparison. The wines are for the most part good to even very good, but you have the $40 per month going out and you have to wait to accumulate enough to get a case now and then. And because they are “private label” wines you really can’t get an idea of the relative value.
I’m guessing they had a nice bump in memberships during Covid, and I’m also guessing that 20-40% of those memberships will cancel in the next 2 years… so I’ll pass on this one – both the stock and the wines!
Could be, they certainly had a big surge in revenue and active subs from mid-2020 to
Mid-2021. The question is,
Not unlike Netflix or Disney+,
How many of them stick around.
I was a happy Naked Wines “angel” (loved some of their Portuguese reds) until they got fed up with the red tape required by New Jersey and “paused” deliveries here in late 2019. I check annually or so to see if they’ve restarted; not yet. Maybe the same thing happened in the Gumshoe home state?
Could be! We have some odd old laws here in Mass … I think we are also one of the few states where happy hour is still illegal (though we already have more pot dispensaries than liquor stores on my town, oddly enough).
I know I have tried an online wine club and a online growler club, but both were canceled because you need 21+ to be present when delivered. You can’t pick delivery time, so the model quickly falls apart unless you are home 24/7
I’ll say first off, I don’t like the name they chose, it’s a bit off-putting. What’s that mean, Naked Wine? I’d go with it though. More research on the wine trends!
Maybe they are copying the name from a niche carbs-chip brand?
In that case, i think “Naked” meant absence of fake-cheese-powders. The chips are ok to good, IMO.
I always thought that they named it after me because years ago I used to drink too much wine and get naked…….in the bar.
My wife and I have been Naked Wines subscribers for the last 4 months and have been happy with the service. We are able to choose our wines, how much we want to spend, and how much we want to buy. One of the drawbacks that was mentioned, having to be at home waiting for delivery, is not an issue. They will deliver to a Fed Ex or other business near you and you can pick up your wine at your convenience – usually on the way home from work.
I subscribed a few years back, but after a few cases found the general quality of the wines to be not really worth the money. I loved the idea of supporting the small vintners, but wine making is a difficult business, and being a small botique wine maker does not guarantee a really good product. All this was several years back, however.
I have been a member of Naked Wines for about 10 years and I like them a lot. They refund for any wine you don’t like and provide recommendations based on those you do. But as I am not a heavy drinker and have not been throwing dinner parties during the pandemic I have not bought much for a couple years.
I think they will stay small until we all drink more. !!!
DDEJF now 1.10 was as high as 25 in past making a comeback; regression to the mean.
I am a subscriber ti Sven’s undervallued shares and recommed his free news letter to everyone. He is an interesting person with a world wide perspective. He doesn’t charge a fee for his news letter and offers a list of top investing blogs for free. I did buy one of his recommendations abot 18 months ago. Its a South American cement producer. Its pretty much flayt or a little below my purchase price but I’ve sold covered calls on it twice now s9 my total cost is below current price levels. Sven seems like he is sincerely trying to be helpful. And he seeks input from his subscribers. Best of all – no continous efforts to uo sell. Check out Undervalued Shares and decide for yourself. I alway add’ “I invest in Real Estate and Gamble in the Stock Market”.
Naked Wines exists in Australia and similar to Gumshoe I bought a few cases but they come from very very small vineyards and the quality was variable. Better off to go to your established wine merchant friend and buy well made wines from reliable vineyards and much easier to get a refund if the bottle(s) are “corked”.
Gday ,just an FYI on Naked wines.As a lapsed subsrciber(yes so much wine so little time),my wfe just recieved 9 bottles delivered for$36AU.Thats less than $30 US,they were all quite drinkable drops but you have to wonder what thier margins are and how long they can sustain that.
Anyway happy wine drinking naked or not
They need to think about adding micro breweries and distilleries
Undervalued-Shares – I have been a subscriber for about 18 months and recently upgraded to a lifetime sub. Sven does excellent work and living in Europe and speaking multiple languages gives him an edge that has been profitable for me. I have easily made 20X my lifetime investment in his service. I have no particular opinion on WINE but did start a small position just to have it on my screen. Annuity-type subscription businesses are particularly attractive and it is a likely acquisition candidate at some point.
Isnt this Marketwise $MKTW and not Naked wines…
This story took an ugly turn and stayed ugly, haven’t looked into why but it caught my eye this week:
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