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Russell Eaton
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Zenith Trading Circle was a dead loss, but I did get a refund for the subscription. ‘The Money Zone’, also by Gilani, was a dead loss, and I also got a refund. The Money Zone was bout predicting the S&P 500, but he nevers got it right.

Phil
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The Money Zone money-back guarantee goes in effect after the one year term ends. How did you get the refund so early since it was only launched in May 2018? Although it has done so poorly, I guess if he hit 100% for the rest of one year, it still would not reach the 93% win guarantee.

beanbag
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How did you get them to act on your request for a refund. I have used email “contact” method on the website but usually do not get any response. This was the worst subscription I have ever had and also one of the most expensive.

Phil
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I called Money Map Press VIP trading Service customer service at 888-384-8339

Phil
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Good News for unhappy subscribers of the Zenith Trading Circle. I had subscribed for one year and canceled my auto-renew sometime ago when I saw how poor the performance was. My subscription just ended, so I called Money Map Press today, waited about 10-15 minutes, and surprisingly got a very nice lady who confirmed I qualified for a refund because of the promoted performance guarantee after one year. It was “You will have the opportunity to make 59% gains per day for the next 12 months. If not, at the end of the year, contact us and I will give… Read more »
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beanbag
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I would like to corroborate what Phil said about a refund. I just simply asked for a refund because Shah’s outrageous claims had not ever been true. I had to wait maybe ten minutes and the agent came back on and said my refund had been granted. That is some satisfaction, however I still lost a few thousand dollars. Ole Shah had a consistent loss percentage of 100%. The saving grace, if there is any, was the fact that you could hardly get in any trades at his reco price. This refund really made my day because I have been… Read more »
jwhallin
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Money Map Press has at least one bona fide winning service – Tom Gentile’s Money Calendar Pro. I joined almost a year ago & winning trades have topped 85% (note: Tom does not promise “X” percentage winners, but his trades are real, and I have only rarely had a problem getting in at the recommended entry price). The trades are typically vertical calendar spreads, so both upside & downside are limited, but the win rate so far has been stellar. The service “ain’t cheap” but I’ll continue renewing as the wins more than pay for the subscription. And, no, I’m… Read more »
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Phil
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I will second the recommendation of Tom Gentile’s Money Calendar Pro. I am a life-time member for over a year now, and he does deliver consistent profits. Sometimes you can’t meet his price limit since he usually gives out price limits based on Friday’s closing prices. Also, I find his urgent text recommendations many times arrive later the the email ones. So, all the hype about getting new urgent text recommendations faster has not been consistent with me. The lifetime membership only cost me an additional one-time fee of $1,950.00 with a small $149 yearly maintenance fee. BTW, I had… Read more »
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John
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I unfortunately joined the Money Zone. He has weekly spreads on the S&P. Almost all of them are losers. The few winners I was unable to enter at the price recommended. So ‘real world’ they are losers. I’m glad I only risked small positions. He also has longer term option trades. So far there have not been many of those but of the 2 I closed I made about 40%. 2 more open ones are losers at this time.

jedwards92886
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WHAT FOLLOWS IS DIRECTLY FROM ZENITHS WEB SITE…….. JULY 18, 2018 BY SHAH GILANI Action to Take: Buy MAT October 19, 2018 $15 puts (MAT181019P00015000). Pay up to $1.10. Set a limit order to sell half of your position as soon as it hits 100% gain, good till cancelled (GTC). Leave the rest of the position open for unlimited upside. JULY 10, 2018 BY SHAH GILANI Action to Take: Buy UUP December 21, 2018 $24 Puts (UUP181221P00024000). Pay up to $0.18. Set a limit order to sell half of your position as soon as it hits 100% gain, good till… Read more »
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James
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Okay boys and girls, give this guy your money and the only thing it will buy is a very expensive parking spot for Shah’s Ferrari. Stay away from this creep, please read my review here on Stockgumshoe on his buddy slime ball Tom Gentile. All of the reviews about these guys will enlighten you. Even the positive reviews. Why? Because they are pure bullcrap. Lies and more lies. If they were making money I would have also. I lost over 12 grand studiously playing their alerts every day. NOBODY COULD HAVE BROKEN EVEN LET ALONE A PROFIT. I played over… Read more »
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Robert Holland
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MoneyMap expensive newsletter Zenith and Night trader have given just disastrous
recommendations since I signed up.
Zenith doubled down on a Put on DIN; both plays lost money.
Could be they couldn’t handle the market volatility of late,
which, of course, happened just as I signed up.
Night Trader plays were >80% underwater within a couple days ago.

LillianM
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Thank you for providing these comments about Zenith, Money Map, and now Money Zone. I have had a love/hate relationship with Agora for several years. Seems like they just continue to send promotionals and develop new ways to convince us that they can help us make money using their services. I was close to buying Gilani’s new Money Zone for $2k when I decided to see if there were comments on the stockgumshoe website. Thank goodness for this information. I know now that I am very gullible. I believe the promises these Marketers make, and have fallen for Agora pitches… Read more »
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KelvinK
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When these marketers, yes marketers get to be so BOLD with other peoples money, they have No conscious., just another payday for themselves. Guess what, are you all brought back to reality, Michael, can’t be too bold now, when you have to get replaced due to your arrogance to know this market. I would rather see, if I ever subscribe again to this kind of service, that they have some skin in the game. The way this is presently structured, they just do “Paper Trading”, and throwing suggestions out there. I spent $2000 to join in 2016, then spent another… Read more »
Robert Randel
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I’d say the Zenith ideas are among the best of MoneyMap… which isn’t saying too much. The worst part of their service is the Customer Service..or should I say lack thereof… As a professional trading a few hundred thousand dollars I seek any pertinent info I can get to help in making decisions. I don;t rely on services, but I will use them for ideas… I made the mistake of signing up with MoneyMap as a Top Tier investor with their Passport Select program. Once in I have had the WORST Customer Service ever! I guess they figured they got… Read more »
flyboy911
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You are wasting your money

pbormann
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Robert R., I appreciate your comments. I just watched Shah Gilani’s ridiculously long video (about an hour!) for his Money Zone system. Repeated the same info at least a dozen times, must be getting paid by the word! I’m always suspicious of some “new” system anyone claims to have, like this Money Zone with 93% win rate. Just like the Zenith service he took over after I bailed out of it with 100% loss rate, I seriously doubt real life experience will be anything close to his 93% claim. Like everyone else, I never was able to get in or… Read more »
flyboy911
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They all should be investigated by the securities exchange

Mark
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Robert R. and pbormann, thanks for your comments. Shah’s Money Zone video is definitely “ridiculously long.” I’m less interested in his trade recs as I am his track record on predicting where the S&P will be by week’s end. Any thoughts as to whether he may have a high degree of accuracy in this regard? Thanks in advance for your input.

George T.
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I joined that program 3 weeks ago and his 1st two recommendations were duds. Gilani’s forecast system is no better than an astrology horoscope.

Retired CGA

torgo3000
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Thanks George. I assume you’re talking about his new Money Zone offering. That’s very helpful. Can you update us again in a couple of weeks and let us know if his losing streak continues?

beanbag
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Zenith Trading Circle, Shah Gelani, and Money Map Press are so bad and deceptive with their outrageous claims that they should be exposed to the entire country. Some of their guys are regularly guests on Fox News/Business. Fox needs to be contacted and informed of their deceptive advertising claims. I am, regrettably, a subscriber and since September of 2017 he has 23, 100% losers. The other 4 positions they show, are basically 100% losers. Today he is claiming that he has had gains of 6,160% since April 2017. He has had 18, 100% losers since that date. How do you… Read more »
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Dave
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Can you back your claims up with some kind of list showing the trade reco’s?
If someone is a member don’t they have access to a portfolio which shows all the open and closed positions? Maybe a screen cap for people to see?

Thanks

beanbag
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As I stated, I am a subscriber to Zenith Trading Circle. My comments are derived from their website in my account. Since a lot of these comments about their lack of transparency, they are showing a little more of their track record. But, it only goes back to January of 2017. Even just showing this length of time, in his claims he is claiming all of these huge winners. I can’t dispute some of his BS because it was almost impossible to get into the trades when recommended. Best thing that ever happened in this account. He is sitting on,… Read more »
rmiken49
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Noted in my earlier comments, I am a member of another Agora group, “Platinum Reserve”. It consist of many different publications. These publications have various approaches including stock buying, cryptocurrencies, options (puts and calls) and other approaches with suggestions on how to preserve capital and so on. In my subscription there is approximately 41 different services (includes a few free newsletters) Through my account, I can access all of the publications including current open trades and closed trades. That provides the track record helping me decide which publications to participate in. I seems that after joining Zenith Trading Circle, you… Read more »
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flyboy911
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these guys will lie

torgo3000
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Hi Mark. That is exactly the key question. The 93% figure comes from back-testing. This allegedly magic algorithm fits the weekly directional pattern of the S&P 500 in 93% of weeks from spring 2009 to now. I haven’t signed up for Money Zone but I am thinking about it as it looks to be different from the rest of their offerings. Looks like this is based on trading index options on the S&P, which appeals to me enough that I’d consider the $2k price tag. The big question is whether that 93% figure is likely to hold up at least… Read more »
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beanbag
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Been in his service for just about a year. He has the worst track record of any service I have ever subscribed to. It is so bad, they will not even give you a track record. The trades he is talking about are old trades and about the only ones he has made that were positive. His last 15 trades or so are 100% losers. If he is wrong he never recommends at any point to get out of the trades. If you are no fairly knowledgeable at trading options you should definitely stay away from this guy. Everything about… Read more »
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Dennis Stephens
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Amen beanbag, I had a lot of respect for the money map guys, listening to them on TV , but I don’t now, anyone who would put their name on that, aint much. But I was the sucker who bought into it.

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Dennis Stephens
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Heck no

Pack Norman
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I asked for a refund and they denied it after saying they would pay one half back. Customer service specialist was a jerk.

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rmiken49
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Sorry for the late reply. I was only able to get a refund when I initiated this service in September of 2016. There was a 90 day trial or your money back. I asked for a refund and the full subscription price was applied to my credit card when I opted out before the 90 day trail. Zenith was a new service at the time (with Michael Lewitt) so they apparently were more prone to refund subscription prices at the time.

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Pack Norman
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I have lost more money with this service than any service I have ever used. They advertise the spectacular trades, but never discuss the failures. Most of the plays since last sept were 100% losers. Do yourself a favor. Stay away. Retired physician. Investor x 35 years.

rmiken49
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Member since late 2016 with Zenith. Got out and with a refund during that period. (Also a lifetime member of Agora Financial Reserve). Thought I might benefit from Zenith but market timing was off as Michael Lewitt anticipated a bear market when he initiated Zenith. Only now are we in the nascent bear market. If one must subscribe to these services, be aware that recommendations are not always succinct with the market ups and downs. I use Agora recommendations as a guide. If they appear to be in line with the current market trend, whether short term or long term,… Read more »
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Dennis
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I mean that I never got in on the suggested option price ither, but usually when i pulled up the chart for the particular option, most of the time 2 to 3 days before the alert it was at the suggested price. Zenith’ Trading Circle is not worth buying. It’s a ripoff

flyboy911
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You are correct

beanbag
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Heres a “comment” I sent about a week ago to the guy who is supposed to be the senior editor of Money Map Press and have not heard back yet. Fred Dear Mr. Weisbecker, I am a subscriber to Zenith Trading Circle. I have serious concerns about what is going on with this service. To compound my concerns about the service, I have dealt with a “customer service” that is totally incompetent and ill-informed to the extent I would say they are useless. I have tried to move up to a supervisor but when they tell me one will call… Read more »
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Matt Morris
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I suppose the track record looks bad. But also factor in that one huge winner could erase a lot of the damage from several losing trades. That said, I do agree it’s silly to say we can’t give you a track record. They could at least go back a couple months or so and dig up his alerts right?

Dennis
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Zenith Trading Circle

Dennis
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If you go back 2 to 3 days before the alert, that is usually when you could have gotten the option for that price. I terminated the subscription to Zenith ,

beanbag
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What do you mean?

Matt Morris
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WOW guys sorry to hear about all the misfortune from this services’ reco’s. :-
I have a service called “Fed Trader Service” http://www.fedtraderservice.com where we trade GLD options during certain news events…it’s fun, fast paced and proven…around 70% winners since inception in early 2016, and some are good sized % gains. I have plenty of testimonials and a track record to prove my claims.

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Sean
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Enjoyed the reviews as I was considering joining Zenith but will not now.

rmiken49
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I joined Zenith the end of 2016 with Michael Lewitt. Got out with subscription refund. Only lost a small amount. I am a member of the Agora Financial group. As a lifetime member (joined in 2007 when they were another name) I receive daily recommendations from many of their publications. Of these only some of their publications are profitable. It is helpful to have a trade account large enough to benefit from the many recommendations. One has to pick and choose the suggested trades (options or stocks). Most of the online companies such as Agora and Zenith all have the… Read more »
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Will I earn back the subscription price let alone
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Will I earn back the subscription price let alone

No way Will I earn back the subscription price let alone make any money. His emails arrive too late to get in at the recommended price and few or no recommendations are given on when to close

cvairag
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liars and crooks – ‘money map’ press should face a class action suit – but who’s got the time?

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Paul
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I joined and lost a lot of money. they had a 100% rate of losses. all options expired worthless, with 100% loss. Since then I’v been paper trading it & still see 100% of losses. This is bad enough, but they continue to claim stunning results & massive success. Such a bold face lie!

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beanbag
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Paul, I am a subscriber to Zenith Trading Circle. I have serious concerns about what is going on with this service. To compound my concerns about the service, I have dealt with a “customer service” that is totally incompetent and ill-informed to the extent I would say they are useless. I have tried to move up to a supervisor but when they tell me one will call me, always at a later time, they never have called. The biggest concern I have is the impossibility of getting into the trades when Mr. Shah sends out the alerts. I know all… Read more »
JIM
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While the advise may be fair, good luck on entering the positions at the recommended price. In my experience I was unable to enter the market at the suggested price except on two occasions and those were not winners. A waste of the cost of the subscription.

Egidio
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Jim , that is a very good point. I always questioned the success rate of entering the market and place a position on the recommended trade.

blue cat
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I subscribed to this for awhile in 2016, never got a winning trade. For one thing, they claim an entry point as of the time the recommendation is made. This may be selling a put option with 210 contracts open interest. A couple days later, the open interest was over 100,000 contracts! So you have several hundred subscribers all trying to climb into a thinly traded security at the same time! It simply does not work. They were claiming the 2016 demise of several companies, including Tesla and Sears. Agreed, the balance sheets on both are awful, but the put… Read more »
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Paul
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I even tried waiting a few weeks, then buying the put for a fraction of their recommended price (as the stoke price had risen), But still lost on every trade.

robo46
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Hey blue cat, how did you get your money back? I’ve lost on every recommendation I tried. I’ve never gotten in at or below their “buy up to” price, even a couple minutes after receiving their emails. Most of the time, their trade is 30-100% above their buy up to price. I asked for my money back, but they refused. I also tried a charge back through my credit card company, but they’re fighting it.

John
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Did you get your money back through the credit card company? I have a same situation. I’ll request the money back via credit card company if you are success .