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NeilH
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NeilH

Hey don’t you guys realize if you close the window when you see a long winded video appear, you get a written version if you click stay. Then you can scan thru quickly before coming over to see what gumshoe says about it.

jperkins12
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Yes, we understand that NeilH, but I think they have circumvented that little trick. It would not work for me.

Steve Christo
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Steve Christo

Don’t know if you guys are all in the USA or other countries but today is October 13 and I just received email and watched a painfully long video looking for sloppy script writing but couldn’t find it. I did find Michael very blunt and straight shooting which I like. I would like to think that by now some of you may have turned a profit or at least seen your positions heading in the right direction. Can I trouble some of you for an update before this little aussie jumps in (even after having several bad experiences with U.S.… Read More ยป

rmiken49
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This is Mike(USA). I joined Zenith recently. So far, no disappointments. Some of my earlier posts briefly describe my rationale and approach to buying puts and market direction. Lewitt’s recommendations will be most beneficial once the US markets change direction from up to down. Today’s down day was anticipated and once the bottom for this “wave” is in place, the market should continue its upward trend for a bit longer until it reaches a final top before starting back down in earnest (potentially before the end of 2016). The Zenith recommendations will likely trade flat to up during market uptrends.… Read More ยป

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jperkins12
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STEVE; Don’t do it !!!!!!

Dave R
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Dave R

I reluctantly paid the 2k for the service but have been very happy so far. Ive done 5 trades with him so far with no losers . Only time will tell how his picks do in the longer term. I trade them short term and will likely not hold until experiation.

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buggsy
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Dave, Thank you for your feedback

Greg C
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I joined the Zenith Trading Circle one month ago for their 2k price and I do not see any gains worth mentioning – overall the portfolio is slightly in the black, which is nicer than some others where it loses much value quickly and then stays there. However, the teasers, and reviews, indicate that profits would be made much quicker than they have. His routine emails also went from the hype of ‘making 10X profits quickly’ to one of ‘market stagnation’ and now ‘timelines look to be out to late 2016/early 2017’ for anything to ‘happen’. So one has to… Read More ยป

hip3434
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hip3434

I joined Zenith about a month ago and have been watching the account carefully. I have decided to only paper trade at this time out of extreme caution. I did receive his updates which were very different than mine so I decided to do a Thinkback evaluation of the trades when his recommendations went out. Some of them seemed a little off, but most were in sync with Thinkback. I found some of the prices to be signficantly lower than what I was able to achieve, but I admittedly did not execute them on point. A lot of my trades… Read More ยป

Robert145
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I’m very interested to see someone’s results. I’m on the fence with this

rmiken49
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I have been a member for a few weeks. The companies selected by Michael Lewitt are appropriate for companies that will fail once the markets change from bull mode to bear mode. Once that happens, there will no shortage of companies with elevated stock prices with plenty of room to correct down. His selections are leap options so plenty of time for them to play out. I am tracking his selections but waiting until the markets decide which direction to travel before jumping in fully. Markets in a sideways range for awhile now. I have shorted(put options) some of his… Read More ยป

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Bobby
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Bobby

Several people have mention leap options. Is this a different service? Zenith is fairly short term. The furthest out has been an April put.

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jperkins12
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I’m with you, Robert 145. It will be a long wait for the results.

allegro
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allegro

Michael Lewitt’s Zenith Trading promotion seems to have disappeared, allusion to content perhaps being too rough for his sponsors(?). Anybody know what may have happened here, and what the end result may be?

Gerry
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Gerry

I think if you reply to the last offer it will be valid. The discontinuation was just announced to rush people to buy now. It will resurface in a few days. Anybody made the 500% profits buying puts with his recommendations?.

rmiken49
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Large percentage returns would only take place over a period of months or a year or longer (using the “carbon trade” technique). This all depends on when longer down cycles in the markets occur. I do not anticipate that happening in the very near term until such time that US markets finish topping. High percentage returns are more likely on a longer downturn(such as a new bear market). These long term trades will not do as well until that time comes. Most of the poor performing companies from Michael Lewitt generally go down on down market days and do not… Read More ยป

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Bobby
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Bobby

Check the record now. 4 of 1st 6 trades are down. 1 is flat. 1 is up 20%. And that is if you bought at his alleged “recorded price.” Almost no one can get in at this price. The last one was SHLD Jan 2017 $5 puts. He claims it could have been bought @ $0.20. Out of the 29,022 contracts that traded that day 100 traded at $.020. Those 100 contracts were traded @ $0.20 at 1:14 pm ET. That’s the same time I received my txt alert. You then have to check your email for the trade info… Read More ยป

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Beepger
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This is nearly an exact copy of my experience. Before the election there was a bit of green and things were going in a profitable direction. With the market rally puts are at significant losses…

jperkins12
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Thanks for the info, Bobby. It just takes a little time for the truth to start creeping out.

Bruce Collins
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Bruce Collins

You can buy at the money leap puts and sell shorter puts to lower the cost. of the purchased put. If someone is on this service contact me, give me the trade and I’ll show you how to set it up.

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hip3434
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How do we contact you Bruce?

allegro
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allegro

Yes, I’d like to know how to set it up as well. Today I bot a Jan 2018 Put on Tesla with a $100 strike. where would you go from there?

Bobby
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Bobby

Bruce: Last zenith trade was on 11/14/16 for SHLD 1/20/17 $5 put. Limit price =.35. How would you set it up?

hip3434
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hip3434

Just an update to let folks know how these trades are going. In a nutshell, not so good. I have lost significant capital thus far as the Trump rally continues to unnerve any short positions. Does anyone in the service have any positive news? I for one am losing faith quickly.

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rmiken49
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Sorry your returns aren’t doing well. I have doing mostly paper trades for my shorts due to current market considerations. The only trades thus far are TSLA,MTDR DB, C and VRX. The TSLA (+15%), MTDR (-61%), DB(Jan 2018 10(-29%)C (-45%) Closed out an earlier VRX trade with profits (two different Nov options(over 100%)not the Lewitt reco). At present the markets in general are in a topping process which can take considerable time and very frustrating thus requiring a lot of patience. We are in typically a positive time for the markets (November – April) so may take some time. This… Read More ยป

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rmiken49
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For those having problems buying Zenith Trading Circle recommendations at or near the price reflected it would seem that the price of the option is reflected during the specific time the recommendation is made. Afterwards the price is likely to jump depending on the volume of traffic buying that particular option. This will happen every time there are thousands of options being purchased at once over a relative short period of time. This increases the “implied volatility” of the option and the price increases. Option prices can vary depending on various volatility measurements. One is historic volatility (depends on overall… Read More ยป

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TimR
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It’s sounding like his recommendations are based upon fundamentals only. The problem with that is timing. Reminds me of one of Warren Buffets quotes, “markets can stay irrational longer than I can stay solvent”. I see a structural problem here… he’s recommending a time-based investment (put options) but is highly inaccurate with regard to downside triggers. Then his marketing material shows cherry picking of selections that produced huge returns.

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jperkins12
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That’s ok with him, TimR. If he cuts off all his subscribers to 500, he will make close to $1 Million. It’s really puzzling why he would not let me subscribe. Guess he just wants no more than the $1 Mil. Ha!